Canon Service Odyssey

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I thought a long time about whether to share my only experience with Canon Service. In the end, I decided, that sharing the outcomes of such a key aspect of technology ownership, was appropriate.

In August I aquired a pristine, perfectly functioning, used 40D. I purchased it on Craigslist, and, spent two hours with focus charts, a tripod, and two prime lenses, testing focus, and all aspects of the camera before purchase. The camera was perfect.

No scratches anywhere. Bought it from a young fellow whose parents gave it to him, but, also gave him an iPhone. "I only use my phone for pics".

At any rate, the camera was awesome, focus in all lighting was profoundly capable.

Separately, I had long owned a Canon 24-84 lens that, at 24mm, had about a 9mm back focus on by EOS 350D, at 2.5 meters. I was never sure if it was the lens or the focussing system, and, did not try to resolve this issue, rather, found a work around (large fstop).

However, this lens ALSO back focussed by 9mm my 40D. This confirmed, to me, that the lens was a problem.

So, I decided that I liked the lens so much I would send it to Canon to see if they could resolve this issue which appeared identically on two camera bodies.

I did send the lens. Canon did charge my card. Then, they sent the lens back with a statement that: "The lens was functioning within specification".

I found this surprising and phoned Canon service and explained that the lens was backfocussing identically on two camera bodies.

A very nice person said they would send me a post to send the lens back. So, I did.

When Canon received it I received a very nice call from someone who said, really, the lens is fine, CAN YOU SEND YOUR 40D in?

I thought about this, because, I am old enough to have learned that sending in a perfectly functioning piece of equipment is always risky in any domain.

But, I thought maybe Canon could figure out the lens problem if they had the camera. So, I sent it in.

I received both the camera and the lens back. I was initially amazed: The 40D now focussed perfect at 24mm on my 24-85.

But, quickly, it became apparent that, on all of my primes, and EVEN ON THE 24-85, the 40D now dramatically front focussed. Nothing at f4 even, was in focus in any lighting. Not anything.

So, I broke out in a sweat and called Canon. A very nice person said "We are so sorry, please send it in again". And I did.

I received it back and, my formerly highly capable 40D STILL dramatically front focussed on all of my primes. It STILL was perfect at 24mm on my 24-85.

So, now, I began to get that sense of dread, but, still with some hope, phone Canon again.

A very nice person spent a very long time on the phone with me to understand what happened and said: "Please send your camera in a again".

So, I did. Nothing to lose since it did not focus on anything with any of my lenses except at 24mm zoom on the 24-85.

I received a camera back 4 days ago. First, although the serial number is the same on the bottom, the body is NOT the same as the pristine body I sent in. I notices that my plastic LCD screen had been removed, and reseated so I pulled it off. The LCD screen is profoundly scratched, and, the one tiny scratch that I knew existed on my LCD screen....before I sent it in....is GONE. Also, on the body itself, the rubber looks like it was removed from a tire it is so worn. AND, there are two scratches on the body down to the metal.

Canon swapped out my pristine, no scratch body, for another body, BUT, they put the serial number plate back on the body they sent me.

I know this sounds crazy, but, I have closely examined this body, and, it is NOT the body that I sent in.

So, presumably, Canon gave up on my other body, and, swapped it for a body they had that was, ostensibly, better focus.

This body is not nearly as capable of nailing focus as the one I sent in. It is OK.

So, in the end, I spent money to get: my 24-85 lens with nothing done to it, and, another camera body 40D that looks like somebody used it to go bowling with.

At the beginning: I had a pristine, well tested, 40D that functioned perfectly.

I completely understand that there is no going back from this now. The camera I had is gone, the capability is lost, and, my 24mm-85mm still back focusses at 24mm on both my bodies just like it did at the beginning of this odyssey.

I do plan, based on this experience, to go and take advantage of the D90/18-105 sale.

I did phone Nikon and talked with a pro Nikon guy who has dealt with Nikon service. He is astounded at my story.

I am a Canon fanboy since 1981. This story crushed me.
 
As any item I send for repair I take a picture prior to sending it in to prove that it was in a pristine condition. You should escalate the incident to a higher authority.
 
Thank you. I would phone Canon again, but, am certain that there is no resolution at this point.

After three times, I think I can just go ahead and move to acceptance.

Then, form resolution on my own: Nikon.
 
take a shot and check the exif data. You can see if the body serial number matches the serial number of the software.

If I were in your shoes I would demand a brand new camera to replace the "lost" 40D
Thank you. I would phone Canon again, but, am certain that there is no resolution at this point.

After three times, I think I can just go ahead and move to acceptance.

Then, form resolution on my own: Nikon.
 
Not being a fanboy here or trying to challenge you, but this doesn't even sound logical. Canon DSLRs are pretty much componentized, meaning whole sets of electronics, mechanisms, etc. are made to be swapped out if needed. It doesn't make sense that they would risk trying to dupe you by swapping out bodies and trying to make it look like it was yours. My experience is that anytime they plan something dramatic, I've gotten a call first.

That said, who knows what happens these days, but if it were me, and I believed that this is what happened, I wouldn't stand for it or let it go. I'd be on the phone to Canon in a heartbeat. At a minimum IF they did a swap, it should he been detailed in the repair notes.

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Jay S.
Fuji 7000 / Canon 20D / Canon 40D / Canon 7D
http://jaysott.smugmug.com
 
If that was me I would not accept that.

Explain your 40D was in pristine condition and you can see that the body they have sent you is not the same.

As someone said check your exif and see if you see the same serial number.

Good luck.
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Canon 5D II, 7D & Nikon D7000
 
I checked the exif as suggested.

The number of the SN when I first bought the camera is the same as the number that shows now.

So, maybe the camera was just used as a bowling ball or, perhaps, a shot put?

In any case, external condition of the camera is abysmal compared to what I sent in.
 
A similar story happened to me almost a year ago..

I had a G10 that stopped working.. I sent it to canon

one week later the camera arrives and it is working again.. nice :)

although the the front and back parts that makes the camera shell are not exactly aligned as they used to be.. the shutter and the zoom switches were changed.. the original G10 parts were made out of metal,, and they were replaced with a cheaper G11 Plastic switches.. the On/Off button feel has changed.. it doesn't go all the way down..

and most importantly the camera had a major problem.. the image is well focused in the center of the frame (around 30% of it) but not outside the inner circle.. even if everything is in the same plane.. I guess it's the effect of a lens decentralization..

I did not have time to call them back.. and the 3 months repair warranty ended so I can't do anything about it now..

It was a great camera..
 
I still don't understand the hesitancy about calling Canon? You certainly have nothing to lose. Anything I've ever sent to Canon (Virginia and New Jersey) has been handled with the utmost care. The return packaging is carefully done.
I checked the exif as suggested.

The number of the SN when I first bought the camera is the same as the number that shows now.

So, maybe the camera was just used as a bowling ball or, perhaps, a shot put?

In any case, external condition of the camera is abysmal compared to what I sent in.
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Jay S.
Fuji 7000 / Canon 20D / Canon 40D / Canon 7D
http://jaysott.smugmug.com
 
I have posted this many times (A Canon camera or any camera is at it's best when it leaves the Mfg. Assembly as a brand new camera) when you have any of their Tech. service centers handle a repair, it's a crap shoot sometimes people win and sometimes they lose.
Meaning some get their cameras back in great fixed condition, some don't. :-(
 
--which sevice center was it sent to?
SHOOT TO THRILL: MAC WEST NYC
 
Copy and paste this post and Fed ex it to this guy Yoroku Adachi president and CEO of Canon USA thats what I would do. I wouldnt keep calling the idiots messing up the Camera.

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SHOOT TO THRILL: MAC WEST NYC
 
I think it is a good idea to communicate the story to Canon. I will write a letter to the repair facility, and, to Canon.

I don't want to call out the specific repair facility. No doubt, many cameras have been repaired sucessfully there.

I agree, based on this experience, that if a camera needs repair, time for the trash.
 
I basically switched to Canon 5 years ago because I had a similar problem with the other manufacturer (starts with an N). Ever since I switched I have been nothing but impressed by the quality and quickness that my gear is serviced and returned. I see these posts and wonder how this can happen. You really need to be persistent and make them make this right. I truly believe that if they made a mistake that it can be made up for at their cost not yours. To go along with your original issue, I send all of my gear out and have it calibrated about once a year depending on use. It comes back much sharper than when it left. I just sent my 7D in to get the new locking mode dial installed and the service was performed the day it was received and then shipped out the same afternoon.

Matthew Jonas
-Small Town Photojournalist-
 
Thank you for you well written post and cause for thought.

I will phone Canon today. Later this afternoon I will write a letter to Canon corporate.
 
I have to say that I have twice sent lenses to Canon for repair and was most impressed with their service. One in particular was an IS lens which had been on a trip to the Grand Canyon and had a lot of grit in the mechanism. I paid for a fixed price service but when I received the lens in return the IS mechanism was not working. I returned it to Canon pointing out that whilst they had indeed cleaned out the grit and the lens worked very smoothly, I would get an error from the camera every time the IS was on. No questions asked, they took the lens back and when I eventually got it back the notes said they had replaced the entire IS mechanism! Of course, they didn't even think of charging extra, as it was entirely their fault.

This was Canon UK, by the way.
 
I have several inputs indicating that Canon Service can be very good. Also, my own experience was that the folks answering the phone are good.

However, my own personal camera has been trashed, the LCD looks like someone took sandpaper to it, and, after return from Canon, the body has two gashes on it down to bare metal.

So, although I am a long time Canon fanboy, and, am open to input on how awesome Canon service is, my experience has been crushing.
 
I'm assuming you still have the box it was returned in? They may want to have you provide them with images about the box's condition although what you're describing sounds like it would have had to occur elsewhere. I think the reason you're hearing posts about positive experiences, is because Canon has check and double check procedures before an item is shipped back out. I'm at a loss to understand this one.. I have to admit.
I have several inputs indicating that Canon Service can be very good. Also, my own experience was that the folks answering the phone are good.

However, my own personal camera has been trashed, the LCD looks like someone took sandpaper to it, and, after return from Canon, the body has two gashes on it down to bare metal.

So, although I am a long time Canon fanboy, and, am open to input on how awesome Canon service is, my experience has been crushing.
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Jay S.
Fuji 7000 / Canon 20D / Canon 40D / Canon 7D
http://jaysott.smugmug.com
 
Agreed! Something about this whole story smells like bad fish in the refridgerator.

Like Canon service has nothing better to do than to either play street hockey with his camera or totally swap out not just the internal computer(s) but also the serial number sticker (have a look at the bottom of your camera's folks, there is NO WAY that serial number is coming off and going back on without getting massively damaged in the process) and try to pull a fast one on him.

Riiiigggggghhhhhtttttttt!!!!!!!!!
 
It sounds like this may have happened during shipping and handling. Please keep us updated on the outcome. I hope Canon can make this right for you.

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Matthew Jonas
-Small Town Photojournalist-
 

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