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Hi Michel,

I assume it will be more expensive than current prices, but would the D700's successor be more than the D700 when it was new? And new AF? A speedier contrast detect? Or some hybrid phase/contrast detect for video AF performance? Cheers!
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Hi mgblack74,

I don't think so, but that depends of course on the exact features the model will have.

Already since end of last year it's unofficially communicated what the model will be and what it will have. We saw that new focus system already in the D7000, probable an adopted version from that, 1080 video and a new 18MP+ sensor.

You will see that the price of the D700 will go a bit more quicker down the coming months, especially from January next year.

Michel
mgblack74 said:
Hi Michel,

I assume it will be more expensive than current prices, but would the D700's successor be more than the D700 when it was new? And new AF? A speedier contrast detect? Or some hybrid phase/contrast detect for video AF performance? Cheers!
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Michel, 18MP+ means around 18MP or could it be over 20MP? Do you know if it will be a Nikon design (a la D700/D3s) or a Sony one (a la D3x/D7000)?

I'll wait until March, if it doesn't come, I'm getting a D7000, my D80 is getting really old now, in all aspects.

Cheers!
M Lammerse said:
I don't think so, but that depends of course on the exact features the model will have.

Already since end of last year it's unofficially communicated what the model will be and what it will have. We saw that new focus system already in the D7000, probable an adopted version from that, 1080 video and a new 18MP+ sensor.

You will see that the price of the D700 will go a bit more quicker down the coming months, especially from January next year.

Michel
mgblack74 said:
Hi Michel,

I assume it will be more expensive than current prices, but would the D700's successor be more than the D700 when it was new? And new AF? A speedier contrast detect? Or some hybrid phase/contrast detect for video AF performance? Cheers!
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Hi Renato,

I have no idea, the only 'news' I have about a follow up of the D700 is similar to what I heard about a year ago. 18MP+ sensor, new focus system 1080 video. Seeing the recent release of the D7000, it might well be possible. I have no further info than that we will see it coming March.

I also hear a rumor about another DX release next year, the D8000., i'm not wikileaks :-) and haven;'t checked it at other sources this together with the new format camera, lenses accesoires etc. will give something to look forward to :-)

I'm not biting at any new cameras' saving for the 35mm f/1.4G, but i'm looking forward to see it this coming March.

Michel
rhlpetrus said:
Michel, 18MP+ means around 18MP or could it be over 20MP? Do you know if it will be a Nikon design (a la D700/D3s) or a Sony one (a la D3x/D7000)?

I'll wait until March, if it doesn't come, I'm getting a D7000, my D80 is getting really old now, in all aspects.

Cheers!
M Lammerse said:
I don't think so, but that depends of course on the exact features the model will have.

Already since end of last year it's unofficially communicated what the model will be and what it will have. We saw that new focus system already in the D7000, probable an adopted version from that, 1080 video and a new 18MP+ sensor.

You will see that the price of the D700 will go a bit more quicker down the coming months, especially from January next year.

Michel
mgblack74 said:
Hi Michel,

I assume it will be more expensive than current prices, but would the D700's successor be more than the D700 when it was new? And new AF? A speedier contrast detect? Or some hybrid phase/contrast detect for video AF performance? Cheers!
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M Lammerse said:
Hi Renato,

I have no idea, the only 'news' I have about a follow up of the D700 is similar to what I heard about a year ago. 18MP+ sensor, new focus system 1080 video. Seeing the recent release of the D7000, it might well be possible. I have no further info than that we will see it coming March.
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A new focus system doesn't make a lot of sense. The D700 already has Nikon's top of the line focus system. It has a much better focus system than its nearest competitor. The D4 is due in September next year. So, is Nikon going to release its new top of the line focus system in anything other than the D4? Is it going to upgrade the D800 focus when the competition is way behind? To be honest, people (including you, it has to be said) have cried wolf about the so-called D800 (and the numbering makes no sense, either, blowing apart Nikon's numbering system when they've just got it into some sort of order) just far too often.
M Lammerse said:
I also hear a rumor about another DX release next year, the D8000., i'm not wikileaks :-) and haven;'t checked it at other sources this together with the new format camera, lenses accesoires etc. will give something to look forward to :-)
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That also makes no sense. The next top end DX has to be the next gen D300, which will most probably be released with the D4, very probably be called the D400 and if not the D9000, unless Nikon intends moving this even/odd numbering thing to its Dxxxx range, which would be silly, because it would blow apart Nikon's numbering system when they've just got it into some sort of order. In any case, the next DX has to be the D5100 - the D5000 has already been delisted according to some.
M Lammerse said:
I'm not biting at any new cameras' saving for the 35mm f/1.4G, but i'm looking forward to see it this coming March.
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It will be the D5100 in march. the big question is, does it get the D3100 or D7000 sensor.
M Lammerse said:
Michel
rhlpetrus said:
Michel, 18MP+ means around 18MP or could it be over 20MP? Do you know if it will be a Nikon design (a la D700/D3s) or a Sony one (a la D3x/D7000)?

I'll wait until March, if it doesn't come, I'm getting a D7000, my D80 is getting really old now, in all aspects.

Cheers!
M Lammerse said:
I don't think so, but that depends of course on the exact features the model will have.

Already since end of last year it's unofficially communicated what the model will be and what it will have. We saw that new focus system already in the D7000, probable an adopted version from that, 1080 video and a new 18MP+ sensor.

You will see that the price of the D700 will go a bit more quicker down the coming months, especially from January next year.

Michel
mgblack74 said:
Hi Michel,

I assume it will be more expensive than current prices, but would the D700's successor be more than the D700 when it was new? And new AF? A speedier contrast detect? Or some hybrid phase/contrast detect for video AF performance? Cheers!
--
"You're guaranteed to miss 100% of the shots you don't take" - Wayne Gretzky
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Bob
 
Center weight metering linked to focus point Of course, with option in menu to change circle dimension (8, 12, 15, 20). :D

New lens:

AF-S 28mm f/2 G ED
AF-S 50mm f/2 G
AF-S 85mm f/2 G
AF-S 70-200mm f/4 G ED VR

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1.) 28/2 not going to happen, will be an f2.8 as always

2.) They just made a AFS 50/1.4, why do you want an f2.0?

3.) 85/2 is also strange as the current one is f1.8, and my bet this is the first one coming down the line.

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bobn2 said:
A new focus system doesn't make a lot of sense. The D700 already has Nikon's top of the line focus system. It has a much better focus system than its nearest competitor. The D4 is due in September next year. So, is Nikon going to release its new top of the line focus system in anything other than the D4? Is it going to upgrade the D800 focus when the competition is way behind? To be honest, people (including you, it has to be said) have cried wolf about the so-called D800 (and the numbering makes no sense, either, blowing apart Nikon's numbering system when they've just got it into some sort of order) just far too often.
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I agree a new AF system is coming more likely with D4, but if D800 or whatever the D700+ is called sticks with the present AF, I hear the marketing people: "what if the 5Mk3 comes with a better AF"? (Or one that just looks better?). Even though, as you say, the D700's is not only better than anything out there but better than what most users of the camera can actually do. This is part of the equation, Nikon may introduce it first on the D700+. BTW, I and many around here wouldn't have guessed that Nikon would introduce the new top DX sensor below the D300 line. So tradition has already been broken once in Nikonland.
bobn2 said:
It will be the D5100 in march. the big question is, does it get the D3100 or D7000 sensor.
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Agree, that's name of next DX, like D3000 -> D3100. My guess is D7000's sensor. It's there to compete with the 550D, and that's already 18MP. At that level, pixel count and video are big marketing issues.
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rhlpetrus said:
rhlpetrus said:
A new focus system doesn't make a lot of sense. The D700 already has Nikon's top of the line focus system. It has a much better focus system than its nearest competitor. The D4 is due in September next year. So, is Nikon going to release its new top of the line focus system in anything other than the D4? Is it going to upgrade the D800 focus when the competition is way behind? To be honest, people (including you, it has to be said) have cried wolf about the so-called D800 (and the numbering makes no sense, either, blowing apart Nikon's numbering system when they've just got it into some sort of order) just far too often.
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I agree a new AF system is coming more likely with D4, but if D800 or whatever the D700+ is called sticks with the present AF, I hear the marketing people: "what if the 5Mk3 comes with a better AF"? (Or one that just looks better?).
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Actually, that's a reason for not replacing the D700 now, but releasing the D800 to the normal 4 year pro cycle, sometime after the D4 (and therefore, probably, after the 5DIII) . Here in the UK, the D700's commanding more in the shops than the 5DII and it still has no competition for what it does, so why spend the development time and effort for a replacement which is not needed by the market?
rhlpetrus said:
Even though, as you say, the D700's is not only better than anything out there but better than what most users of the camera can actually do. This is part of the equation, Nikon may introduce it first on the D700+. BTW, I and many around here wouldn't have guessed that Nikon would introduce the new top DX sensor below the D300 line. So tradition has already been broken once in Nikonland.
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I and many would have guessed. Nikon has to compete with Canon and their consumer end development cycle is remorseless. There was no possibility of staying with the IMX021 sensor all the way through the 4 year cycle. I suppose we might have seen this sensor in a D300x or D300sx (which I suppose we could still see), but given that the D300 will follow the 4-year pro cycle (because Nikon says its a pro camera) it was always going to be caught up by the consumer range. This happens in canon's line frequently, and as soon as Nikon started seriously competing it was going to happen with Nikon too. It will happen also to the D400 (D9000) and 7D.
rhlpetrus said:
rhlpetrus said:
It will be the D5100 in march. the big question is, does it get the D3100 or D7000 sensor.
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Agree, that's name of next DX, like D3000 -> D3100. My guess is D7000's sensor. It's there to compete with the 550D, and that's already 18MP. At that level, pixel count and video are big marketing issues.
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More than that, moving the D7000 upwards from the D90 means the D5x00 has to move up the range a bit. I wouldn't be surprised to see a bit more than expected in there, maybe even a second control wheel.
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rhlpetrus said:
Nano 10-16, 16-60 VR, 60-150 VR. Should be f/2 to be comparable to f/2.8 FF. But if that's too expensive to make, or too bulky, f/2.8 ok.
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Yes Nikon's choice of DX lenses is pretty poor. With the high res, decent high iso, sensor in the D7000 - and probably better in a D300 update - it would be good to have some top class DX lenses available.

Take a look at some of the lenses for APS-C Pentax offer:
http://www.pentaximaging.com/camera-lenses/
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SixDasher said:
2.) They just made a AFS 50/1.4, why do you want an f2.0?
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I don't know why BogdanSandulescu wants it but in good light I used to prefer my manual focus 50/f2.0 over the 50mm 1.4 and 1.8

Razor sharp, less distortion, lighter weight, no need of a lens shade, and low price.

If I were Nikon I'd make it a 55mm or 60mm though as that would make it a little better as a portrait lens on DX cameras.
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One stop extra, double the price.

A 60-150/2.8 does not make a whole lot of sense with a 70-200VR2 available.

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mfbernstein said:
maxmelvin19 said:
Sorry if this question's been asked before, but when are Nikon going to but an FX sensor in a smaller body?
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I'd be first in line to get one, but I'm not sure it'll ever happen.
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I'd be right behind you un that line.

I know there are many people - including those who use large heavy lenses or have big hands - who like a large body. But I bet there are just as many others who would love an FX DSLR around the size of an FM (I know it would have to be a little thicker). I'm sure many would also want both.
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Rick Knepper said:
maxmelvin19 said:
Sorry if this question's been asked before, but when are Nikon going to but an FX sensor in a smaller body?
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Rick Knepper said:
I do not care about the size of the body. I carry two 5D mkIIs now. I think I can handle a cam the size of a D700 or even the D3x. What I care about is throwing money away on a device that is hardly worth $5000 much less $8000.
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Rick Knepper said:
You may actually be talking about a small body but I think a lot of folks use the phrase "small body" as a euphemism for an affordable hi-res camera such as the 5D mkII or Sony A900. Too small of a body creates imbalances between cam & lens that can be awkward if not detrimental to the shot.
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Depends on what you shoot - for primes up to 105 or 135 there is no imbalance and for some small size can have many advantages. You can also always have an add on battery-grip to balance slightly larger lenses.

I know a long time pro now using a D3x - he feels however it is useless for candid shots the size makes it like pointing a weapon at someone and their whole expression instantly changes.
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CFynn said:
SixDasher said:
2.) They just made a AFS 50/1.4, why do you want an f2.0?
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I don't know why BogdanSandulescu wants it but in good light I used to prefer my manual focus 50/f2.0 over the 50mm 1.4 and 1.8
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I allready have all the fast new prime and zooms from Nikon. My problem is i want more cheap (f/2, FX, AF-S ) prime lenses for my wife . :D

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That had nothing to do with it being f2.0. I have a set of AiS 50s and like the 50/1.4 best, my copy is sharper across the frame than the 50/2.0Ai and 50/1.8Ai. Weight between the three is a non-issue. I don't see Nikon making an FX 50/2.0 when they already have a 50/1.4 and with rumors of a 50/1.2 coming.

Maybe a 50-60mm DX, but you can bet it will be f1.4 or f1.8 as well. Especially if it is a "portrait" style lens.

If you want smaller and lighter than the 50G then i think you have the wrong camera all together or have never handled the 50/1.4.

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Get the 50/1.8D, still works fine. Maybe they will even "upgrade" this one.

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rhlpetrus said:
I agree a new AF system is coming more likely with D4, but if D800 or whatever the D700+ is called sticks with the present AF, I hear the marketing people: "what if the 5Mk3 comes with a better AF"? (Or one that just looks better?). Even though, as you say, the D700's is not only better than anything out there but better than what most users of the camera can actually do. This is part of the equation, Nikon may introduce it first on the D700+. BTW, I and many around here wouldn't have guessed that Nikon would introduce the new top DX sensor below the D300 line. So tradition has already been broken once in Nikonland.
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The AF system in the follow up of the D700 will be an adoption of the one in the D7000. With new AF system I meant the one which is already there in the D7000 and that was already rumored beginning of this year (development of the new AF system) which I mentioned here.
rhlpetrus said:
rhlpetrus said:
It will be the D5100 in march. the big question is, does it get the D3100 or D7000 sensor.
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I will bookmark this one, lets see! :-) Unfortunately no wine betting any more, otherwise I put a bottle on it for sure! :-)
rhlpetrus said:
Agree, that's name of next DX, like D3000 -> D3100. My guess is D7000's sensor. It's there to compete with the 550D, and that's already 18MP. At that level, pixel count and video are big marketing issues.
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If there will be a D5100 it wil not have a larger sensor than the D7000, that's sounds indeed logic (even by Nikon logicality ;-) ) Nothing about a D400, wonder if we ever will see one.

Michel
rhlpetrus said:
Renato.
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Good shooting and good luck
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