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There is a picture on the last page ("the future evolution ...") that shows a GREEN E-5 or E-3. As a wildlife photographer I would love to have one of those :-)

Kind of looks like the old green Leica R3. I think that one was build specially for the tropics. The E-3/E-5 can handle the tropics fine. No need for that.

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daank said:
There is a picture on the last page ("the future evolution ...") that shows a GREEN E-5 or E-3. As a wildlife photographer I would love to have one of those :-)

Kind of looks like the old green Leica R3. I think that one was build specially for the tropics. The E-3/E-5 can handle the tropics fine. No need for that.

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Daan
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the picture above that shows him holding the invisible version
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Mandolin, haha, nope sorry! That, my friend, is a Banjo :)?
 
It´s also seen at page 3.

I´d like a green E-5, absolutely, but IF it would be available I´d definately want it to have a darker green hue than the shown one.

It looks a bit "toyish" or "rubbery" in that light hue.Sort of like how a cheap compact binocular use to look...

Aim & Frame ;-)
 
I would appear that the E5 is the future. If you were a fan of the E4xx,E5xx or E6xx size cameras you have to embrace the Pen style :-(
Very Sad
 
... while explaining how anybody who's not willing to carry an expensive two pound brick around his neck better scoot on over and down to not-yet-a-match Micro 4/3 with its slow and optically inferior lenses.
 
Official communication

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revio said:
We call the SLR with mirrorless structure a "new generation system camera". Its market is growing rapidly and in the future, when people talk about "SLRs", what they will actually means is this "new generation system camera". I think that the "new generation system camera" has a lot of room to grow in the future and its potential is very high. As this system has just been started, we will focus on enhancement of the product line.

When compared to the SLR destined for professionals and advanced amateurs such as the E-5, the "new generation system camera" is still unable to cover many areas. Advanced requirements for AF speed and viewfinder tracking speed can still be met only with the Four Thirds System. I believe that the E-5 system is ideal for the most demanding users.

Accordingly, we market two product lines to suit different user needs. For users of Four Thirds cameras like the E-3 and E-30, the E-5 is our latest offering. For users more concerned with reduced size and weight, such as users of the E-400, 500 and 600 Series, we now offer the PEN Series.

We will be encouraging customers to try the E-5 at events and in stores. We hope they will gain a new awareness of the enormous potential of the ZUIKO DIGITAL lenses they already own.
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Oly "knows" that consumers will use the term SLR incorrectly for mirrorless interchangeable cameras. Oly management believes the average consumer, who their apparent main market is, is too unknowledgeable to know the difference between a DSLR and any interchangeable lens camera. I give at least hobby photographers more credit that that. I love it when a company calls their market dumber than a bag of hair.

New Generation System Camera sounds good. And we all know, "New" means always better. That's where being dumber than a bag of hair comes into play again. ;)
RoelHendrickx said:
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RoelHendrickx said:
We call the SLR with mirrorless structure a "new generation system camera". Its market is growing rapidly and in the future, when people talk about "SLRs", what they will actually means is this "new generation system camera".
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Okay, so those who like the E30 or E3 now have the 28.2 ounce E-5 (body plus batteries = 28.2 ounces).

The E-4xx and E-5xx crowd (that's me, with 5 Zuiko 43 lenses) are supposed to migrate toward the PEN.

ARE YOU KIDDING!? The E-p2 weighs in at 12.5 ounces, body and battery only.

If that's true, I hope they come up with some healthier sized pens that can carry the 43 lenses!
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TheEye said:
I like the part where Watanabe laughs hysterically...... while explaining how anybody who's not willing to carry an expensive two pound brick around his neck better scoot on over and down to not-yet-a-match Micro 4/3 with its slow and optically inferior lenses.
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I honestly think that Olympus is confident that they will improve MicroFT's current weak points before the normal life cycle of the E450, E620, E520 and E30 is over.

You can still buy and use those for a while and have a great competent camera. The SLR most in need of an update was indeed the E-3 and it got it. And it is probably the camera used most by SHG glass users, with a specific feature set not present in the EXX0 series that may be harder to achieve in MicroFT(weatherproofing).

It may not cater to everyone's needs and wishes, but it does make sense to me.

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my E-3 user field report from Tunisian Sahara: http://www.biofos.com/ukpsg/roel.html
 
PeterNMIF said:
Okay, so those who like the E30 or E3 now have the 28.2 ounce E-5 (body plus batteries = 28.2 ounces).
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Carrying a heavy load is the fate of the Oly enthusiast and pro!
PeterNMIF said:
The E-4xx and E-5xx crowd (that's me, with 5 Zuiko 43 lenses) are supposed to migrate toward the PEN.
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Don't you know the New Generation System Camera is really just like a DSLR because that's what consumers will call it anyway. snicker
PeterNMIF said:
ARE YOU KIDDING!? The E-p2 weighs in at 12.5 ounces, body and battery only.
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Future Micro 4/3 bodies will be made increasingly lighter and cheaper (literal meaning of "cheaper").
PeterNMIF said:
If that's true, I hope they come up with some healthier sized pens that can carry the 43 lenses!
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So they imply, but what Oly may offer in a year or two isn't interesting for the buyer who is in the market right now. Don't hold your breath. Next is the fusion of video and still camera. Then in 3-D. Must keep up with the Joneses and stay ahead of oneself.
PeterNMIF said:
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I agree.
For best IQ you use best Olympus body (E-X) and best lenses (SHG).

HG lenses are really good too, but they fit well on E-3, more so than on smaller bodies with perhaps the exception of 50mm, 14-54 and 11-22 which fit well on smaller bodies too.

Olympus can't undermine it's E-5 sales by releasing E-630 with E-5 innards (sensor, video, LCD), and then they would be exposed to criticism from E-30 crowd unwilling to upgrade to E-5.... and round it goes.

Anyone wanting to upgrade thier camera to mid range model should wait few months for Olympus to release new MFT camera, I don't think they'll all be pen-like, they might even release E-520 style camera in a few months with the IQ of E-5.

Thing is that if you already have pro glass or are thinking of buying it, E-5 won't pose such a great cost in the total system cost, and if you don't want/need such a camera, new mirrorless models might be perfectly good.
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TheEye said:
PeterNMIF said:
Okay, so those who like the E30 or E3 now have the 28.2 ounce E-5 (body plus batteries = 28.2 ounces).
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Carrying a heavy load is the fate of the Oly enthusiast and pro!
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You've got a point there.
TheEye said:
TheEye said:
The E-4xx and E-5xx crowd (that's me, with 5 Zuiko 43 lenses) are supposed to migrate toward the PEN.
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Don't you know the New Generation System Camera is really just like a DSLR because that's what consumers will call it anyway. snicker
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OK, we already got that.
TheEye said:
TheEye said:
ARE YOU KIDDING!? The E-p2 weighs in at 12.5 ounces, body and battery only.
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Future Micro 4/3 bodies will be made increasingly lighter and cheaper (literal meaning of "cheaper").
TheEye said:
If that's true, I hope they come up with some healthier sized pens that can carry the 43 lenses!
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So they imply, but what Oly may offer in a year or two isn't interesting for the buyer who is in the market right now. Don't hold your breath. Next is the fusion of video and still camera. Then in 3-D. Must keep up with the Joneses and stay ahead of oneself.
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I am sure they are working on a high-end MicroFT model. And it will undoubtedly be bigger and heavier, if they are going to make it as tough and weatherproof as the current SLR flagship. I am also guessing that an EVF will be included, not as a separate accessory. It will just take the time it will take for the technology to get there.
So call me an optimist.
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Roel Hendrickx

lots of images : http://www.roelh.zenfolio.com

my E-3 user field report from Tunisian Sahara: http://www.biofos.com/ukpsg/roel.html
 
I tried a Panasonic G2 over the weekend and found that with my 12-60, 50-200SWD, 14-54s focused very slowly :-( ,and there is a shot to shot blackout :-(.

I believe the m4/3 system will improve in the future, but it has a way to go before it will fill my needs. Oh yeah I don't need a heavy $1800 camera so the E5 is out of consideration. I am cosidering a E30 which fits my price range better. I have ruled out the E6xx bodies too small and the grip doesn't fit my hand well.
Oh well I being forced to look at other brands.
Rick
 
RoelHendrickx said:
I am sure they are working on a high-end MicroFT model. And it will undoubtedly be bigger and heavier, if they are going to make it as tough and weatherproof as the current SLR flagship. I am also guessing that an EVF will be included, not as a separate accessory. It will just take the time it will take for the technology to get there.
So call me an optimist.
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Roel Hendrickx

lots of images : http://www.roelh.zenfolio.com

my E-3 user field report from Tunisian Sahara: http://www.biofos.com/ukpsg/roel.html
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They have implied that 4/3 and Micro will merge into one "beautiful system" (I think they said that verbatim). The point is, Micro isn't where it needs to be to replace 4/3. Oly admits that. Until there is a capable Micro body, Micro isn't what I want.* There is no release date, there isn't even an indication from Oly what a pro Micro body will be like. The focus seems on increasingly cheaply made bodies (E-PL1, EPL1s) for the consumer market that needs to be milked.

Oly wants me to switch to Micro, because I use an E-620. Oly apparently does not understand my needs. That's of course fine, but if there's many more potential future customers like me, then Oly might hurting themselves by sending a large number of potential customers elsewhere. Alone the fact that Oly is telling me what gear I need based on the gear I currently have is extremely off-putting.
  • My other reason for not being crazy about Micro is the prospect of an EVF. No matter how big and clear, no matter how conveniently data can be superimposed (doable with OVF also), the fact remains an EVF eats batteries and it will always have lag. For some photographers that matters.
 
TheEye said:
RoelHendrickx said:
I am sure they are working on a high-end MicroFT model. And it will undoubtedly be bigger and heavier, if they are going to make it as tough and weatherproof as the current SLR flagship. I am also guessing that an EVF will be included, not as a separate accessory. It will just take the time it will take for the technology to get there.
So call me an optimist.
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Roel Hendrickx

lots of images : http://www.roelh.zenfolio.com

my E-3 user field report from Tunisian Sahara: http://www.biofos.com/ukpsg/roel.html
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They have implied that 4/3 and Micro will merge into one "beautiful system" (I think they said that verbatim). The point is, Micro isn't where it needs to be to replace 4/3. Oly admits that. Until there is a capable Micro body, Micro isn't what I want.* There is no release date, there isn't even an indication from Oly what a pro Micro body will be like. The focus seems on increasingly cheaply made bodies (E-PL1, EPL1s) for the consumer market that needs to be milked.

Oly wants me to switch to Micro, because I use an E-620. Oly apparently does not understand my needs. That's of course fine, but if there's many more potential future customers like me, then Oly might hurting themselves by sending a large number of potential customers elsewhere. Alone the fact that Oly is telling me what gear I need based on the gear I currently have is extremely off-putting.

My other reason for not being crazy about Micro is the prospect of an EVF. No matter how big and clear, no matter how conveniently data can be superimposed (doable with OVF also), the fact remains an EVF eats batteries and it will always have lag. For some photographers that matters.
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Again you've got a number of good points.
And I agree with quite a few of your observations.

Only I am not an E620 user but an E3 user and happy with that weight and size factor, so I am probably more easily pleased with the E5.

The current main question is : in what sense does your E-620 not satisfy you currently, in order for you to wait a while and see what is coming ?

(On EVF: I am no big fan either. I LOVE the big bright OVF on my E3. But on a trade fair, I have taken a look at the detachable EVF that Panasonic offers and I must say it was better than I had expected. And the Oly version is supposed to be even better. Even DPR review lists the EVF as a highlight in its review of the EP-2. So I believe we will eventually come to a point where the difference between EVF and OVF becomes marginal.)

In the end we will just have to wait and see. I just hope my optimism is more realistic than your skepticism, but of course I don't have a crystal ball.
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Roel Hendrickx

lots of images : http://www.roelh.zenfolio.com

my E-3 user field report from Tunisian Sahara: http://www.biofos.com/ukpsg/roel.html
 
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