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I had heard / read various alarming statements that the S2 does not fully support the use of fast lenses (

Their response beggared belief ->

"Dear Sir,

Thankyou for your recent enquiry regarding your Fuji FinePix S2 Pro
digital camera.

Unfortunately using any lens below F4 on the S2 Pro can cause undesired
problems. This is due to the CCD being smaller than 35mm film. As an
approximation, F4 on the S2 is eqivalent to F1.6 on a conventional camera.
Basically if the F stop is any lower than 4 (1.6) the depth of focus is
too shallow.

Hope this answers your question.

If you have any other queries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards
-----------------------------------------------------------
Fuji Film (UK) Ltd
Email: [email protected]
Web: http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/technical
Tel: 01234 245383"

So, basically they will not commit to supporting the use of ANY pro lenses on their 'pro' body?????

I was so dumbstruck that I sent the following reply ->

"But as the aperture on any lens is always wide open (until it actually stops down when the shutter button is pressed) does this not mean that you cannot actually put a f/4 or faster lens on the S2 and focus properly? An f/1.8 lens set to f/8 will be at f/1.8 for focusing / metering / locking etc. and drop to f/8 as the actual picture is taken.

How can the set F stop affect the ability to focus, surely the base (maximum aperture) F stop is what will govern whether the camera/lens system will focus.

If what you say is correct, none of my lenses would work at any set F stop, your marketing statement that the S2 is fully compatible with all current Nikon lenses is incorrect (and undoubtedly illegal) and your press release pictures showing the S2 fitted with a 50mm f/1.8 is utterly misleading.

I would appreciate a response again as I am sure one of us must have the wrong end of the stick on this issue.

Kind regards"

I await a reponse......

I know there are countless threads on here regarding focusing issues, only a few of which I have trawled through. But as a tempted S2 owner I am being helplessly carried away downstream towards another camera - therefore, I would sorely appreciate any short summaries that experienced users can give - both 'no problem with......' and 'yikes, this doesn't work....'

I want to get a reasonble picture of what is going on here. I have every intention of making a formal complaint to the Trading Standards. Their web site / press release states "fully compatible with all Nikkor AF-D lenses, including the latest AF-S type professional optics".
Their statement above clearly states that this is NOT THE CASE.
 
I guess Fuji are still employing the same dum k in support. There was the same posting a few weeks ago regarding the same issue.

Your S2pro will work with you Nikon lens and at F1.4 what ever correctly and supported without issue.
Scrubber said:
I had heard / read various alarming statements that the S2 does not
fully support the use of fast lenses (
difficult to believe I e-mailed Fuji UK (several times I might add
before finally getting a response).

Their response beggared belief ->

"Dear Sir,

Thankyou for your recent enquiry regarding your Fuji FinePix S2 Pro
digital camera.

Unfortunately using any lens below F4 on the S2 Pro can cause
undesired
problems. This is due to the CCD being smaller than 35mm film. As an
approximation, F4 on the S2 is eqivalent to F1.6 on a conventional
camera.
Basically if the F stop is any lower than 4 (1.6) the depth of
focus is
too shallow.

Hope this answers your question.

If you have any other queries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards
-----------------------------------------------------------
Fuji Film (UK) Ltd
Email: [email protected]
Web: http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/technical
Tel: 01234 245383"

So, basically they will not commit to supporting the use of ANY pro
lenses on their 'pro' body?????

I was so dumbstruck that I sent the following reply ->

"But as the aperture on any lens is always wide open (until it
actually stops down when the shutter button is pressed) does this
not mean that you cannot actually put a f/4 or faster lens on the
S2 and focus properly? An f/1.8 lens set to f/8 will be at f/1.8
for focusing / metering / locking etc. and drop to f/8 as the
actual picture is taken.
How can the set F stop affect the ability to focus, surely the base
(maximum aperture) F stop is what will govern whether the
camera/lens system will focus.

If what you say is correct, none of my lenses would work at any set
F stop, your marketing statement that the S2 is fully compatible
with all current Nikon lenses is incorrect (and undoubtedly
illegal) and your press release pictures showing the S2 fitted with
a 50mm f/1.8 is utterly misleading.

I would appreciate a response again as I am sure one of us must
have the wrong end of the stick on this issue.

Kind regards"

I await a reponse......

I know there are countless threads on here regarding focusing
issues, only a few of which I have trawled through. But as a
tempted S2 owner I am being helplessly carried away downstream
towards another camera - therefore, I would sorely appreciate any
short summaries that experienced users can give - both 'no problem
with......' and 'yikes, this doesn't work....'

I want to get a reasonble picture of what is going on here. I have
every intention of making a formal complaint to the Trading
Standards. Their web site / press release states "fully compatible
with all Nikkor AF-D lenses, including the latest AF-S type
professional optics".
Their statement above clearly states that this is NOT THE CASE.
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i read a very similar reply from fuji (possibly the exact same one) in an earlier thread. this is one of the main things that lead me to cancel my S2 order and wait for the kodak 14n. time will tell if i made the right decision.

cheers
nas
 
Scrubber said:
Unfortunately using any lens below F4 on the S2 Pro can cause
undesired
problems. This is due to the CCD being smaller than 35mm film. As an
approximation, F4 on the S2 is eqivalent to F1.6 on a conventional
camera.
Basically if the F stop is any lower than 4 (1.6) the depth of
focus is
too shallow.
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Some $6/hour employee is very confused and needs to be sent for more photographic training. I've used lenses with maximum apertures from f/1.4 to f/165 on the S2. It works fine with all (though you DO get a bit of diffraction at f/165 ; ).

Many of the posts that appeared here earlier about "lens incompatibilities" were misreadings of the Nikon-supplied footnote to the table on page 18 of the manual (it was misinterpreted by Nikon D100 users, too).

And you might want to point out to the poor fellow that the front cover of the S2 manual shows an f/2.8 lens mounted on the camera and all the internal examples show an f/3.5 lens mounted on the camera.

--
Thom Hogan
author, Nikon Field Guide
author, Nikon Flash Guide
author, Complete Guide to the Nikon D100
author, Complete Guide to the Nikon D1, D1h, & D1x
http://www.bythom.com
 
bossnas said:
i read a very similar reply from fuji (possibly the exact same one)
in an earlier thread. this is one of the main things that lead me
to cancel my S2 order and wait for the kodak 14n. time will tell if
i made the right decision.

cheers
nas
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Well, I use a Nikon 50mm f/1.8 on my S2 and it seems to work ok - so it must all be a figment of my imagination. :-)

Regards

Robert
 
As others have already said, this info is not true. I use the S2 with faster lenses often, no problems. As others have said, the Fuji supplied info shows it is allowed and the Fuji pics show faster lenses in use.

My point is to correct a misconception in Fuji's response. The smaller than 35mm film sensor in the S2 gives us MORE dof than 35mm film for a given f/stop and view. A smaller film/sensor always does this, think of the DOF between a 4x5 camera and a 35mm camera. That alone shows that whoever wrote the Fuji responce doesn't know much about photography!
Scrubber said:
BIG SNIP>
Unfortunately using any lens below F4 on the S2 Pro can cause
undesired
problems. This is due to the CCD being smaller than 35mm film. As an
approximation, F4 on the S2 is eqivalent to F1.6 on a conventional
camera.
Basically if the F stop is any lower than 4 (1.6) the depth of
focus is
too shallow.

Hope this answers your question.
BIG SNIP>
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--
Tom Ferguson
http://www.ferguson-photo-design.com
 
You should request documentation or a web site or something that this "technician" is referencing. Sounds like Fuji has much information that is undocumented that all us S2 people need to know!! :-)
Scrubber said:
I had heard / read various alarming statements that the S2 does not
fully support the use of fast lenses (
difficult to believe I e-mailed Fuji UK (several times I might add
before finally getting a response).

Their response beggared belief ->

"Dear Sir,

Thankyou for your recent enquiry regarding your Fuji FinePix S2 Pro
digital camera.

Unfortunately using any lens below F4 on the S2 Pro can cause
undesired
problems. This is due to the CCD being smaller than 35mm film. As an
approximation, F4 on the S2 is eqivalent to F1.6 on a conventional
camera.
Basically if the F stop is any lower than 4 (1.6) the depth of
focus is
too shallow.

Hope this answers your question.

If you have any other queries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards
-----------------------------------------------------------
Fuji Film (UK) Ltd
Email: [email protected]
Web: http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/technical
Tel: 01234 245383"

So, basically they will not commit to supporting the use of ANY pro
lenses on their 'pro' body?????

I was so dumbstruck that I sent the following reply ->

"But as the aperture on any lens is always wide open (until it
actually stops down when the shutter button is pressed) does this
not mean that you cannot actually put a f/4 or faster lens on the
S2 and focus properly? An f/1.8 lens set to f/8 will be at f/1.8
for focusing / metering / locking etc. and drop to f/8 as the
actual picture is taken.
How can the set F stop affect the ability to focus, surely the base
(maximum aperture) F stop is what will govern whether the
camera/lens system will focus.

If what you say is correct, none of my lenses would work at any set
F stop, your marketing statement that the S2 is fully compatible
with all current Nikon lenses is incorrect (and undoubtedly
illegal) and your press release pictures showing the S2 fitted with
a 50mm f/1.8 is utterly misleading.

I would appreciate a response again as I am sure one of us must
have the wrong end of the stick on this issue.

Kind regards"

I await a reponse......

I know there are countless threads on here regarding focusing
issues, only a few of which I have trawled through. But as a
tempted S2 owner I am being helplessly carried away downstream
towards another camera - therefore, I would sorely appreciate any
short summaries that experienced users can give - both 'no problem
with......' and 'yikes, this doesn't work....'

I want to get a reasonble picture of what is going on here. I have
every intention of making a formal complaint to the Trading
Standards. Their web site / press release states "fully compatible
with all Nikkor AF-D lenses, including the latest AF-S type
professional optics".
Their statement above clearly states that this is NOT THE CASE.
Click to expand...
 
Nick Conti said:
This gentleman joined on 11/1/02 and this was his first post...so
take it for what it is worth!

--
Nick
NACPEYE
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Thanks a bunch Nick - welcome accepted!

It's true - I have been reading this site for months, but never had anything to contribute. Today I felt I did, so I joined.

You, and one of the previous posters, are correct I DID read a very similar 'alledged' reply regarding this from Fuji UK a while ago (can't remember if it was on this site, may well have been) - I DIDNT (couldn't) believe it, so I mailed them myself. Low and behold, similar answer.

Why the hell you think I would make this up is beyond me, but still, it takes all sorts.....

I dearly welcome the posts telling me this is NOT the case with the S2. I have a folder with about 200 pages of printed out reports, reviews, tests blah blah blah (I get very enthusiastic about my new purchases) and was smitten until I heard of this.

Now I want to wait for the D2 (if and when), or the 14n (if and how much...)

Take me as you find me Nick, your comment is sound, shame the mail from Fuji wasn't on a public forum, then you wouldn't have to make your dismissive views known to the masses.
 
Looking at it from a different perspective I find that in certain situations it would be desirable to have less depth of field. Its nice to have that added flexibility. It seems this is the only compatibility issue that Fuji has indicated. As far as I am concerned I have no issue with this at all, and I hope that people don't misconstrue this in such a way not to purchase such a fine camera.
 
I can't say why you got a reply like this, but if I had to make an educated guess, I'd say the customer service guy is confusing autofocus issues and aperture numbers. Using descriptors like "greater than" or "lesser than" with people can be confusing--is f/1.8 greater than or lesser than f/22?? It seems to me that Fuji UK may be thinking "you can't get reliable autofocus with apertures smaller than f/4 (i.e. f/8, f/16, f/22)" and you're asking, "will it work with a fast lens (f/1.4, f/1.8, etc)?" I think this is more a problem of vocabulary and a poorly educated person on the Fuji end than a real problem with the camera. I routinely use my Fuji with apertures smaller and larger (or should I say slower and faster?) than f/4 with no problems.

Anthony
Scrubber said:
I had heard / read various alarming statements that the S2 does not
fully support the use of fast lenses (
difficult to believe I e-mailed Fuji UK (several times I might add
before finally getting a response).

Their response beggared belief ->

"Dear Sir,

Thankyou for your recent enquiry regarding your Fuji FinePix S2 Pro
digital camera.

Unfortunately using any lens below F4 on the S2 Pro can cause
undesired
problems. This is due to the CCD being smaller than 35mm film. As an
approximation, F4 on the S2 is eqivalent to F1.6 on a conventional
camera.
Basically if the F stop is any lower than 4 (1.6) the depth of
focus is
too shallow.

Hope this answers your question.

If you have any other queries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards
-----------------------------------------------------------
Fuji Film (UK) Ltd
Email: [email protected]
Web: http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/technical
Tel: 01234 245383"

So, basically they will not commit to supporting the use of ANY pro
lenses on their 'pro' body?????

I was so dumbstruck that I sent the following reply ->

"But as the aperture on any lens is always wide open (until it
actually stops down when the shutter button is pressed) does this
not mean that you cannot actually put a f/4 or faster lens on the
S2 and focus properly? An f/1.8 lens set to f/8 will be at f/1.8
for focusing / metering / locking etc. and drop to f/8 as the
actual picture is taken.
How can the set F stop affect the ability to focus, surely the base
(maximum aperture) F stop is what will govern whether the
camera/lens system will focus.

If what you say is correct, none of my lenses would work at any set
F stop, your marketing statement that the S2 is fully compatible
with all current Nikon lenses is incorrect (and undoubtedly
illegal) and your press release pictures showing the S2 fitted with
a 50mm f/1.8 is utterly misleading.

I would appreciate a response again as I am sure one of us must
have the wrong end of the stick on this issue.

Kind regards"

I await a reponse......

I know there are countless threads on here regarding focusing
issues, only a few of which I have trawled through. But as a
tempted S2 owner I am being helplessly carried away downstream
towards another camera - therefore, I would sorely appreciate any
short summaries that experienced users can give - both 'no problem
with......' and 'yikes, this doesn't work....'

I want to get a reasonble picture of what is going on here. I have
every intention of making a formal complaint to the Trading
Standards. Their web site / press release states "fully compatible
with all Nikkor AF-D lenses, including the latest AF-S type
professional optics".
Their statement above clearly states that this is NOT THE CASE.
Click to expand...
 
Anthony said:
I can't say why you got a reply like this, but if I had to make an
educated guess, I'd say the customer service guy is confusing
autofocus issues and aperture numbers. Using descriptors like
"greater than" or "lesser than" with people can be confusing--is
f/1.8 greater than or lesser than f/22?? It seems to me that Fuji
UK may be thinking "you can't get reliable autofocus with apertures
smaller than f/4 (i.e. f/8, f/16, f/22)" and you're asking, "will
it work with a fast lens (f/1.4, f/1.8, etc)?" I think this is
more a problem of vocabulary and a poorly educated person on the
Fuji end than a real problem with the camera. I routinely use my
Fuji with apertures smaller and larger (or should I say slower and
faster?) than f/4 with no problems.

Anthony
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Thanks Anthony - may I ask what fast lenses you have used on this? My fastest is a f/1.4 (which according to the Fuji Goon equates to some ungodly low number that will freak out when I try to focus).

The images I have seen surpass everything else I was looking at and as a non-pro I am struggling to justify the extra for the 14n. That said, I struggle even more with buying a £2000 camera body that the manufacturer states won't work with my £3000 lens kist bag.

Regards

Steve
Anthony32599 said:
Scrubber said:
I had heard / read various alarming statements that the S2 does not
fully support the use of fast lenses (
difficult to believe I e-mailed Fuji UK (several times I might add
before finally getting a response).

Their response beggared belief ->

"Dear Sir,

Thankyou for your recent enquiry regarding your Fuji FinePix S2 Pro
digital camera.

Unfortunately using any lens below F4 on the S2 Pro can cause
undesired
problems. This is due to the CCD being smaller than 35mm film. As an
approximation, F4 on the S2 is eqivalent to F1.6 on a conventional
camera.
Basically if the F stop is any lower than 4 (1.6) the depth of
focus is
too shallow.

Hope this answers your question.

If you have any other queries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards
-----------------------------------------------------------
Fuji Film (UK) Ltd
Email: [email protected]
Web: http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/technical
Tel: 01234 245383"

So, basically they will not commit to supporting the use of ANY pro
lenses on their 'pro' body?????

I was so dumbstruck that I sent the following reply ->

"But as the aperture on any lens is always wide open (until it
actually stops down when the shutter button is pressed) does this
not mean that you cannot actually put a f/4 or faster lens on the
S2 and focus properly? An f/1.8 lens set to f/8 will be at f/1.8
for focusing / metering / locking etc. and drop to f/8 as the
actual picture is taken.
How can the set F stop affect the ability to focus, surely the base
(maximum aperture) F stop is what will govern whether the
camera/lens system will focus.

If what you say is correct, none of my lenses would work at any set
F stop, your marketing statement that the S2 is fully compatible
with all current Nikon lenses is incorrect (and undoubtedly
illegal) and your press release pictures showing the S2 fitted with
a 50mm f/1.8 is utterly misleading.

I would appreciate a response again as I am sure one of us must
have the wrong end of the stick on this issue.

Kind regards"

I await a reponse......

I know there are countless threads on here regarding focusing
issues, only a few of which I have trawled through. But as a
tempted S2 owner I am being helplessly carried away downstream
towards another camera - therefore, I would sorely appreciate any
short summaries that experienced users can give - both 'no problem
with......' and 'yikes, this doesn't work....'

I want to get a reasonble picture of what is going on here. I have
every intention of making a formal complaint to the Trading
Standards. Their web site / press release states "fully compatible
with all Nikkor AF-D lenses, including the latest AF-S type
professional optics".
Their statement above clearly states that this is NOT THE CASE.
Click to expand...
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There is a hypothetical softness that can occur with either very short lenses or large apertures, and it is related to the difference in angles that light coming to the same point on the CCD would trace. Because of the antialias filter, if one ray of light comes from a highly oblique angle, it may not find its way to the correct photo site, leading to image softness. I made a fuss about this early on as I was told (by an optical designer at Kodak) that this was the major reason that full-frame sensors were not available (this was about 18 months ago). I have heard speculation that this phenomenon may impact sharpness in outer parts of the 1Ds sensor.

However, I have NOT seen this problem on either my D1x or my S2, and I have shot many of my images with large apertures (f1.4 to f2.8) with no problem. This appears to me (as well as to others) to be a case of a misinformed rep at Fuji UK. It is possible that s/he saw a technical summary that identified the possible image sharpness impact of fast, wide lenses, so this may not be a case of incompetence.

Best,

GPP
 
This is undoubtly a poorly written response to whatever question you asked, but don't read more into it than is there

1) Did the person state that lenses below F4 would not focus?

No. Of course they do focus. I have 6 lenses at 2.8 and below. AFS snaps right in.

2) S/he was apparently trying to tell you that when using a lens at any setting below F4, the DOF may be too shallow, (and for many applications, it is)

Return to your homes folks, nothing to see here.

Regards,

Matt
Scrubber said:
I had heard / read various alarming statements that the S2 does not
fully support the use of fast lenses (
difficult to believe I e-mailed Fuji UK (several times I might add
before finally getting a response).

Their response beggared belief ->

"Dear Sir,

Thankyou for your recent enquiry regarding your Fuji FinePix S2 Pro
digital camera.

Unfortunately using any lens below F4 on the S2 Pro can cause
undesired
problems. This is due to the CCD being smaller than 35mm film. As an
approximation, F4 on the S2 is eqivalent to F1.6 on a conventional
camera.
Basically if the F stop is any lower than 4 (1.6) the depth of
focus is
too shallow.

Hope this answers your question.
Click to expand...
Scrubber said:
I know there are countless threads on here regarding focusing
issues, only a few of which I have trawled through. But as a
tempted S2 owner I am being helplessly carried away downstream
towards another camera - therefore, I would sorely appreciate any
short summaries that experienced users can give - both 'no problem
with......' and 'yikes, this doesn't work....'

I want to get a reasonble picture of what is going on here. I have
every intention of making a formal complaint to the Trading
Standards. Their web site / press release states "fully compatible
with all Nikkor AF-D lenses, including the latest AF-S type
professional optics".
Their statement above clearly states that this is NOT THE CASE.
Click to expand...
--
Matt
 
Scrubber said:
I had heard / read various alarming statements that the S2 does not
fully support the use of fast lenses (
difficult to believe I e-mailed Fuji UK (several times I might add
before finally getting a response).

Their response beggared belief ->

"Dear Sir,

Thankyou for your recent enquiry regarding your Fuji FinePix S2 Pro
digital camera.

Unfortunately using any lens below F4 on the S2 Pro can cause
undesired
problems. This is due to the CCD being smaller than 35mm film. As an
approximation, F4 on the S2 is eqivalent to F1.6 on a conventional
camera.
Basically if the F stop is any lower than 4 (1.6) the depth of
focus is
too shallow.

Hope this answers your question.

If you have any other queries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards
-----------------------------------------------------------
Fuji Film (UK) Ltd
Email: [email protected]
Web: http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/technical
Tel: 01234 245383"

So, basically they will not commit to supporting the use of ANY pro
lenses on their 'pro' body?????

I was so dumbstruck that I sent the following reply ->

"But as the aperture on any lens is always wide open (until it
actually stops down when the shutter button is pressed) does this
not mean that you cannot actually put a f/4 or faster lens on the
S2 and focus properly? An f/1.8 lens set to f/8 will be at f/1.8
for focusing / metering / locking etc. and drop to f/8 as the
actual picture is taken.
How can the set F stop affect the ability to focus, surely the base
(maximum aperture) F stop is what will govern whether the
camera/lens system will focus.

If what you say is correct, none of my lenses would work at any set
F stop, your marketing statement that the S2 is fully compatible
with all current Nikon lenses is incorrect (and undoubtedly
illegal) and your press release pictures showing the S2 fitted with
a 50mm f/1.8 is utterly misleading.

I would appreciate a response again as I am sure one of us must
have the wrong end of the stick on this issue.

Kind regards"

I await a reponse......

I know there are countless threads on here regarding focusing
issues, only a few of which I have trawled through. But as a
tempted S2 owner I am being helplessly carried away downstream
towards another camera - therefore, I would sorely appreciate any
short summaries that experienced users can give - both 'no problem
with......' and 'yikes, this doesn't work....'

I want to get a reasonble picture of what is going on here. I have
every intention of making a formal complaint to the Trading
Standards. Their web site / press release states "fully compatible
with all Nikkor AF-D lenses, including the latest AF-S type
professional optics".
Their statement above clearly states that this is NOT THE CASE.
Click to expand...
--Yes, I agree it is completely unbeleivable. Save it for April 1.

JoeR
 
For fast lenses, my Fuji S2 does just fine with my Nikon 50mm f/1.8, my Nikon 80-200 f/2.8, a Sigma 20mm f/1.8, a Sigma 50mm macro f/2.8, and my Sigma 28-105 f/2.8-4 zoom. Autofocuses just fine with all of them. Sharpness wide open is fine, although it's noticeably better as you stop down, just like with film.

Anthony
Scrubber said:
Thanks Anthony - may I ask what fast lenses you have used on this?
My fastest is a f/1.4 (which according to the Fuji Goon equates to
some ungodly low number that will freak out when I try to focus).
The images I have seen surpass everything else I was looking at and
as a non-pro I am struggling to justify the extra for the 14n.
That said, I struggle even more with buying a £2000 camera body
that the manufacturer states won't work with my £3000 lens kist bag.

Regards

Steve
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Scrubber said:
Anthony said:
I can't say why you got a reply like this, but if I had to make an
educated guess, I'd say the customer service guy is confusing
autofocus issues and aperture numbers. Using descriptors like
"greater than" or "lesser than" with people can be confusing--is
f/1.8 greater than or lesser than f/22?? It seems to me that Fuji
UK may be thinking "you can't get reliable autofocus with apertures
smaller than f/4 (i.e. f/8, f/16, f/22)" and you're asking, "will
it work with a fast lens (f/1.4, f/1.8, etc)?" I think this is
more a problem of vocabulary and a poorly educated person on the
Fuji end than a real problem with the camera. I routinely use my
Fuji with apertures smaller and larger (or should I say slower and
faster?) than f/4 with no problems.

Anthony
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Scrubber said:
I had heard / read various alarming statements that the S2 does not
fully support the use of fast lenses (
difficult to believe I e-mailed Fuji UK (several times I might add
before finally getting a response).

Their response beggared belief ->

"Dear Sir,

Thankyou for your recent enquiry regarding your Fuji FinePix S2 Pro
digital camera.

Unfortunately using any lens below F4 on the S2 Pro can cause
undesired
problems. This is due to the CCD being smaller than 35mm film. As an
approximation, F4 on the S2 is eqivalent to F1.6 on a conventional
camera.
Basically if the F stop is any lower than 4 (1.6) the depth of
focus is
too shallow.

Hope this answers your question.

If you have any other queries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards
-----------------------------------------------------------
Fuji Film (UK) Ltd
Email: [email protected]
Web: http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/technical
Tel: 01234 245383"

So, basically they will not commit to supporting the use of ANY pro
lenses on their 'pro' body?????

I was so dumbstruck that I sent the following reply ->

"But as the aperture on any lens is always wide open (until it
actually stops down when the shutter button is pressed) does this
not mean that you cannot actually put a f/4 or faster lens on the
S2 and focus properly? An f/1.8 lens set to f/8 will be at f/1.8
for focusing / metering / locking etc. and drop to f/8 as the
actual picture is taken.
How can the set F stop affect the ability to focus, surely the base
(maximum aperture) F stop is what will govern whether the
camera/lens system will focus.

If what you say is correct, none of my lenses would work at any set
F stop, your marketing statement that the S2 is fully compatible
with all current Nikon lenses is incorrect (and undoubtedly
illegal) and your press release pictures showing the S2 fitted with
a 50mm f/1.8 is utterly misleading.

I would appreciate a response again as I am sure one of us must
have the wrong end of the stick on this issue.

Kind regards"

I await a reponse......

I know there are countless threads on here regarding focusing
issues, only a few of which I have trawled through. But as a
tempted S2 owner I am being helplessly carried away downstream
towards another camera - therefore, I would sorely appreciate any
short summaries that experienced users can give - both 'no problem
with......' and 'yikes, this doesn't work....'

I want to get a reasonble picture of what is going on here. I have
every intention of making a formal complaint to the Trading
Standards. Their web site / press release states "fully compatible
with all Nikkor AF-D lenses, including the latest AF-S type
professional optics".
Their statement above clearly states that this is NOT THE CASE.
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MCS The guy from Fuji is hopelesly out of it. The effect of the CCD being smaller simply means that it uses only a smaller part of the projected image.

My camera works at alll apertures. This applies to the 60 mm micro plus two zooms. Run a test using aperture priority and you can go from f11 down to whatever the max is on the particuoar lens. Thankfully the guy who answered your email is not a typical Fuji optical engineer.

Or to state it another way there is no relationship between aperture and object size as long as the captured object at the focal plane is within the design specs for the lens. And all these lenses are speced for a full 35mm frame. Good grief! What's more all Nikon lenses are capable of resolution at their widest aperture that far exceeds the capability of the ccd to capture.
 
Scrubber said:
I had heard / read various alarming statements that the S2 does not
fully support the use of fast lenses (
difficult to believe I e-mailed Fuji UK (several times I might add
before finally getting a response).

Their response beggared belief ->

"Dear Sir,

Thankyou for your recent enquiry regarding your Fuji FinePix S2 Pro
digital camera.

Unfortunately using any lens below F4 on the S2 Pro can cause
undesired
problems. This is due to the CCD being smaller than 35mm film. As an
approximation, F4 on the S2 is eqivalent to F1.6 on a conventional
camera.
Basically if the F stop is any lower than 4 (1.6) the depth of
focus is
too shallow.

Hope this answers your question.

If you have any other queries please do not hesitate to contact us.

Kind regards
-----------------------------------------------------------
Fuji Film (UK) Ltd
Email: [email protected]
Web: http://www.fujifilm.co.uk/technical
Tel: 01234 245383"

So, basically they will not commit to supporting the use of ANY pro
lenses on their 'pro' body?????

I was so dumbstruck that I sent the following reply ->

"But as the aperture on any lens is always wide open (until it
actually stops down when the shutter button is pressed) does this
not mean that you cannot actually put a f/4 or faster lens on the
S2 and focus properly? An f/1.8 lens set to f/8 will be at f/1.8
for focusing / metering / locking etc. and drop to f/8 as the
actual picture is taken.
How can the set F stop affect the ability to focus, surely the base
(maximum aperture) F stop is what will govern whether the
camera/lens system will focus.

If what you say is correct, none of my lenses would work at any set
F stop, your marketing statement that the S2 is fully compatible
with all current Nikon lenses is incorrect (and undoubtedly
illegal) and your press release pictures showing the S2 fitted with
a 50mm f/1.8 is utterly misleading.

I would appreciate a response again as I am sure one of us must
have the wrong end of the stick on this issue.

Kind regards"

I await a reponse......

I know there are countless threads on here regarding focusing
issues, only a few of which I have trawled through. But as a
tempted S2 owner I am being helplessly carried away downstream
towards another camera - therefore, I would sorely appreciate any
short summaries that experienced users can give - both 'no problem
with......' and 'yikes, this doesn't work....'

I want to get a reasonble picture of what is going on here. I have
every intention of making a formal complaint to the Trading
Standards. Their web site / press release states "fully compatible
with all Nikkor AF-D lenses, including the latest AF-S type
professional optics".
Their statement above clearly states that this is NOT THE CASE.
Click to expand...
 
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