What metering mode do you use for portraits on your 7D?

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I've found Partial and Spot to be unpredictable/erratic ... As a result, I've been forced to start shooting manual (hate it) to get my desired exposure, and it takes trial and error ... What has been your experience so far?

EDIT: This is not just for purely ambient, I'm talking about mixing eTTL flash alongside the ambient.
 
I've found Partial and Spot to be unpredictable/erratic ... As a result, I've been forced to start shooting manual (hate it) to get my desired exposure, and it takes trial and error ... What has been your experience so far?

EDIT: This is not just for purely ambient, I'm talking about mixing eTTL flash alongside the ambient.
Canon has spent bazillions of dollars developing their evaluative metering, and it's pretty good. I like it, most of the times. I use to have occasional “wrong” exposure, but it's quite rare since the firmware 1.2.2 upgrade.

Just a few days ago, I wrote a blog post on returning to most of the 7D's defaults: http://www.foto-biz.com/Canon/Reset-to-defaults

For flash, my personal preference is setting the 7D in manual speed and f/stop. Then I let the flashes do their job. But, I'm using 580EXii flashes with eTTLii.

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The Business of Being a Photographer -- Lightroom Q&A -- Canon 7D
 
I don't like using evaluative for portraits/people as I only care that my subject is exposed properly. I'm aware evaluative gives more weight to the selected AF point, but still I've gotten the occasional weird exposure here and there with it ... Pretty much I only like evaluative for landscape/location shots.

With partial I've been getting pretty nice exposures so far, but the minute I want to add eTTL flash in the mix, there's that off chance that something will go wrong. (usually overexposure)

If if matters, I am typically bouncing and/or using a diffuser on my speedlite.
I've found Partial and Spot to be unpredictable/erratic ... As a result, I've been forced to start shooting manual (hate it) to get my desired exposure, and it takes trial and error ... What has been your experience so far?

EDIT: This is not just for purely ambient, I'm talking about mixing eTTL flash alongside the ambient.
Canon has spent bazillions of dollars developing their evaluative metering, and it's pretty good. I like it, most of the times. I use to have occasional “wrong” exposure, but it's quite rare since the firmware 1.2.2 upgrade.

Just a few days ago, I wrote a blog post on returning to most of the 7D's defaults: http://www.foto-biz.com/Canon/Reset-to-defaults

For flash, my personal preference is setting the 7D in manual speed and f/stop. Then I let the flashes do their job. But, I'm using 580EXii flashes with eTTLii.

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Thanks
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The Business of Being a Photographer -- Lightroom Q&A -- Canon 7D
 
... With partial I've been getting pretty nice exposures so far, but the minute I want to add eTTL flash in the mix, there's that off chance that something will go wrong. (usually overexposure)

If if matters, I am typically bouncing and/or using a diffuser on my speedlite.
If you focus/recompose, try using FEL after focus, then recompose and shoot. E-TTL/E-TTL II uses Evaluative metering (looks at whole scene) to determine the flash exposure even if you've selected Partial or Spot for the ambient light metering.

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Outdoors when I can't shoot in manual mode or when I use fill flash I use evaluative metering with single point focus. The nice thing is that evaluative metering will be performed at the point of focus. The exposure isn't always perfect, but it is generally close enough that only a small correction in Lightroom is required.

I generally set one focus point to the right of center, one above center, and one to the left and activate Orientation linked AF point on my 7D so I can use my camera horizontally or flip it vertically to either the right or left. I then focus on the model's eye and recompose as little as possible.

Interestingly enough, the face plus hair of a Caucasian or light skinned Asian with dark hair is pretty close to 18% gray, which is why evaluative metering works pretty well with those subjects. For a blond Caucasian model, however, exposure compensation would probably be needed to increase the exposure when using evaluative metering. With a dark skinned model, evaluative exposure metering would result in an overexposure so using exposure compensation to decrease the exposure would be necessary.

If you use spot metering as opposed to evaluative you should realize that Caucasian and light Asian skin is about one step lighter than 18% gray. If you are spot metering on those types of skin need to use exposure compensation to increase the exposure about 1 stop. With dark skinned models exposure compensation is needed to decrease the exposure.

In manual mode with constant lighting I generally set the aperture for the desired depth of field then have the model hold an 90% white card and adjust the exposure to 1/3 stop less than the one that will cause the white card to be blown out.

With studio strobes I shoot strictly manually with a fixed shutter speed. adjust the aperture to get the desired depth of field, and adjust the strobe power levels to get an exposure of 1/3 less than that required to start blowing out the white card.

Using a white card this way is pushing the exposure pretty hard to the right so decreasing the exposure by another 1/3 or 2/3 steps might suit someone else better. One note of caution, sometimes white clothing, some other object in the photo, or the background is "whiter" than the white card so it is necessary to adjust the exposure to less than what the white card indicates in order to preserve texture in that object.

A typical 18% Gray/90% White card is the Kodak one:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/27715-REG/Kodak_1903061.html
 
noogy, do you use any exposure compensation or some special set up technique when doing spot metering?

I have found that using exposure compensation is necessary if I want to get "correct" exposures when I do spot metering. By "correct" I mean the skin not too dark or too light, and hopefully a full range of textured lights tones and shadows.

Unless I use a white card or a gray card in my initial set up to determine how much exposure compensation I need for the spot meter reading of the model's skin I have major problems getting good exposures.
 
I've found Partial and Spot to be unpredictable/erratic ... As a result, I've been forced to start shooting manual (hate it) to get my desired exposure, and it takes trial and error ... What has been your experience so far?

EDIT: This is not just for purely ambient, I'm talking about mixing eTTL flash alongside the ambient.
Canon has spent bazillions of dollars developing their evaluative metering, and it's pretty good. I like it, most of the times. I use to have occasional “wrong” exposure, but it's quite rare since the firmware 1.2.2 upgrade.

Just a few days ago, I wrote a blog post on returning to most of the 7D's defaults: http://www.foto-biz.com/Canon/Reset-to-defaults

For flash, my personal preference is setting the 7D in manual speed and f/stop. Then I let the flashes do their job. But, I'm using 580EXii flashes with eTTLii.

--
Thanks
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The Business of Being a Photographer -- Lightroom Q&A -- Canon 7D
Yeah. I am going to go back to evaluative for a bit to make sure I know how to meter in different situations. Someone mentioned changing their focus points while taking their photo. Is this for studio work or when the subject is going to be pretty still? What would you suggest if you are taking candid shots or taking shots of subjects that aren't going to be staying put long enough to set your focus point to meter off from? Not challenging you, I personally would like to know to improve my portrait photography.
 
What would you suggest if you are taking candid shots or taking shots of > subjects that aren't going to be staying put long enough to set your focus point > to meter off from? Not challenging you, I personally would like to know to > improve my portrait photography.
Check out page 214 in your Canon 7D manual, i.e. "C.Fn III -12 Orientation linked AF point". It will tell you how to set up your camera with three orientation linked AF points.

I pre-set the top center AF point, and either the far left and right AF points or the next ones in on the left and right. I chose these because they are close to the composition 1/3 lines.

Push the AF point selection/Magnify button (p.87/167,197) and then you can select the AF point either with the Multi-controller (p.36) or by using the Main Dial (p.36) and/or the Quick Control Dial (p.37). Once you pre-select an AF point press the Shutter Button 1/2 way down to lock in that AF point. Change the camera orientation and repeat until you have all three AF points pre-selected.

Evaluative Metering centers around your AF point, but I can find nothing that says where flash metering occurs except in the section on FE Lock (p.114).

"Press the button.

Aim the viewfinder center over the subject where you want to lock the flash exposure, then press the button.

The flash will fire a preflash and the required flash output is calculated and retained in memory.

In the viewfinder, “FEL” is displayed for a moment and will light.

Each time you press the button, a preflash is fired and the required flash output is calculated and retained in memory."
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