Well Shay thanks for your encouraging words. How can I learn about digital photography without a camera? When I pre-ordered my 717 somehow Sony neglected to contact me that there would be problem with this camera. Surely they must have informed you. From here on in I will keep a very low profile on this forum. I did not expect this sort of treatment.
Hi Dietmar.
Heheh... well, that's the facts. Can't explain it any differently. You've seen both the Sony Canada announcement yourself, as well as the results from users both with and without the problem. Some cameras are affected, and others are not.
Dietmar, that sounds more descriptive of your own fear and anxiety than that of the forum.
It's pretty easy to see when a camera is out of focus. If your camera has it, it will be very easy to call Sony, let them arrange for a free FedEx pickup (in the USA), and then get your camera back to you quickly.
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Ulysses,We have tried to be nothing but encouraging for you. As far as I
know, you have your F717 on order and then cancelled it(?). This
was done for fear that you might have a focus problem.
Please keep in mind that not all F717 units have this problem. Even
for those that do, you can do one of three things at the very least:
1) Turn off the HAF. Not my preference, but it works for some
2) Manually focus the camera
3) Send it in for repair by Sony.
These are all very reasonable options, and some users will choose
at least TWO of them during their work with a faulty F717.
We need to face the realities that these instruments are made by
imperfect hands and sometimes will fall into the hands of imperfect
users. If we work together through our imperfections, we can get
to the point where our cameras at least work relatively perfectly
--- that is, the way in which they were designed, with good focus
in virtually all situations.
There is no need to fear unreasonably, Dietmar. Especially if this
is your first digital camera, you're going to need to learn how to
deal with the fact that it is in actuality a computer with a lens
on its motherboard. And you know how computers are.
I hope that this comforts you to some extent, and that it helps you
to look at things in a more balanced fashion. A good F717 can be
had by all. For some, it will take a slightly longer wait than
others.
--
Ulysses
Repository of Some of My Stuff
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4291269101
I'm an uncle!!!
We have tried to be nothing but encouraging for you. As far as I
know, you have your F717 on order and then cancelled it(?). This
was done for fear that you might have a focus problem.
Please keep in mind that not all F717 units have this problem. Even
for those that do, you can do one of three things at the very least:
1) Turn off the HAF. Not my preference, but it works for some
2) Manually focus the camera
3) Send it in for repair by Sony.
These are all very reasonable options, and some users will choose
at least TWO of them during their work with a faulty F717.
We need to face the realities that these instruments are made by
imperfect hands and sometimes will fall into the hands of imperfect
users. If we work together through our imperfections, we can get
to the point where our cameras at least work relatively perfectly
--- that is, the way in which they were designed, with good focus
in virtually all situations.
There is no need to fear unreasonably, Dietmar. Especially if this
is your first digital camera, you're going to need to learn how to
deal with the fact that it is in actuality a computer with a lens
on its motherboard. And you know how computers are.
I hope that this comforts you to some extent, and that it helps you
to look at things in a more balanced fashion. A good F717 can be
had by all. For some, it will take a slightly longer wait than
others.
--
Ulysses
Repository of Some of My Stuff
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4291269101
I'm an uncle!!!
So shook up, can't even spell my own name.Ulysses,We have tried to be nothing but encouraging for you. As far as I
know, you have your F717 on order and then cancelled it(?). This
was done for fear that you might have a focus problem.
Please keep in mind that not all F717 units have this problem. Even
for those that do, you can do one of three things at the very least:
1) Turn off the HAF. Not my preference, but it works for some
2) Manually focus the camera
3) Send it in for repair by Sony.
These are all very reasonable options, and some users will choose
at least TWO of them during their work with a faulty F717.
We need to face the realities that these instruments are made by
imperfect hands and sometimes will fall into the hands of imperfect
users. If we work together through our imperfections, we can get
to the point where our cameras at least work relatively perfectly
--- that is, the way in which they were designed, with good focus
in virtually all situations.
There is no need to fear unreasonably, Dietmar. Especially if this
is your first digital camera, you're going to need to learn how to
deal with the fact that it is in actuality a computer with a lens
on its motherboard. And you know how computers are.
I hope that this comforts you to some extent, and that it helps you
to look at things in a more balanced fashion. A good F717 can be
had by all. For some, it will take a slightly longer wait than
others.
--
Ulysses
Repository of Some of My Stuff
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4291269101
I'm an uncle!!!
Correct about the cancelled order, then I reinstated the order.
Expected delivery is Nov 12.
Dietnar
Could be either way.
Let's take the firmware route, for instance. Have you ever tried to
zip a bunch of files, and then tried to open them only to find that
some of the contents are corrupted? Or perhaps saved something to
floppy only to find that its been mangled? The same sort of glitch
could happen to uploaded firmware into a camera.
Even for user-installable firmware updates for other cameras, there
are numerous warnings posted about doing this or not doing that so
that your camera isn't rendered to be a $1000 doorstop. Firmware
needs to be uploaded and updated carefully so that you don't do
harm to your camera's innards.
Hardware next. It could be that one of the EEPROM chips on the
circuit board is corrupt or not holding its data as it should.
Either way, there would appear to be a "noninvasive" fix, meaning
that the fix does not require them to change out your lens block or
anything so drastic. A firmware correction can take care of
whichever is the real culprit, either hardware or firmware commands
that need to be restructured.
--
Ulysses
Repository of Some of My Stuff
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4291269101
I'm an uncle!!!
--
Could be either way.
Let's take the firmware route, for instance. Have you ever tried to
zip a bunch of files, and then tried to open them only to find that
some of the contents are corrupted? Or perhaps saved something to
floppy only to find that its been mangled? The same sort of glitch
could happen to uploaded firmware into a camera.
Even for user-installable firmware updates for other cameras, there
are numerous warnings posted about doing this or not doing that so
that your camera isn't rendered to be a $1000 doorstop. Firmware
needs to be uploaded and updated carefully so that you don't do
harm to your camera's innards.
Hardware next. It could be that one of the EEPROM chips on the
circuit board is corrupt or not holding its data as it should.
Either way, there would appear to be a "noninvasive" fix, meaning
that the fix does not require them to change out your lens block or
anything so drastic. A firmware correction can take care of
whichever is the real culprit, either hardware or firmware commands
that need to be restructured.
--
Ulysses
Repository of Some of My Stuff
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictures.html?id=4291269101
I'm an uncle!!!
Hologram.
Truth be told, Sony is the bull that had to be taken by the horns and steered by the users.
