Do I deserve a 1Ds or should I settle for

I basically agree - the buffer and FPS are already there in the 1D so the next evolution could give you a 1Ds with the FPS/Buffer of the 1D.

Also more dynamic range would always be nice. At some point the marginal cost of the incremental improvements won't equal the marginal benefit (ie a reduction is "missed/poor shots") - and I won't be tempted to upgrade.

bfall said:

Not that anything that the 1Ds does is not adequate or even great,
but in 18 months, there will be something that does even more.

In much the same way, that my laptop still does what it always did
(and not obsolete) - I would upgrade to get the USB 2.0 ports, a
bigger hard drive, etc. etc.

Tim Gray said:

I started with a Nikon CP 950 - for a year then a D30 2 years,
20,000 frames later - (it's easy to hold down the shutter release
when it doesn't cost anything).

As for being obsolete within a year (or whatever) - the technology
of the AF, body and lenses evolves at a snails pace compared to the
electronics. But unless you're a pro, is there much of an
incentive to print at any larger than 13 x 19? If not, then 11mp
probably meets resolution requirements in an absolute sense. My
sense is that technology will drive down price, but I don't see the
1Ds becoming obsolete in a functional sense for a while. (but new
toys will always be so much fun...)

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The 1DS is for pros who can justify the high price tag and for amatures who don't mind the high price tag. If money isn't a problem, then go for it. Only you know how much you can afford to spend on your hobby. I can tell you this: Your images are almost certain to improve after you start shooting digital because of the immediate feedback.

If you have th emoney....why not!
If it's gonna push you then maybe time to think if you REALLY need it.

I used to have a D30 but sold it when I got out the .com game and for fun I'm quite happy with an IxusV.

http://www.ianjohnston.com/2002_RedRose/index.htm
(all shots IxusV)

Ian.

Howard said:

a G3?

Now that a full frame high resolution digital camera finally
arrived, I am about to make the jump, but purchasing a 1Ds for an
amatuer like me is no small decision, check out my website and tell
me what you think:

http://www.imagereservoir.com

Howard

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Hmm,

If you're asking an international forum whether you deserve a new toy, you probably want it reeeaally bad but just can't convince yourself that it's worth swapping all that hard-earned money on such a LAVISH purchase.

IMO, digital bodies are like shiny new cars - they look & feel great when you first buy 'em, but after a year they just don't have that new-car smell anymore - especially when all your internet buddies start talking up a storm about the latest model that isn't even available yet.

Don't get too hung up on the full-frame feature - there's plenty you can do with a 16/17mm lense on a D30/D60 (even at 1.6x) and literally save thousands of dollars, yen, pounds, euros, whatever.

There's also great software out there for stitching those 1.6x digital pictures into a panorama that's a lot wider than any single 35mm frame. PLUS you have a built in tele-converter with no f-stop loss!

Resolution? I seriously doubt that your friends or family will even notice, nevertheless look down upon, anything you print from the two cameras mentioned above - unless of course you hang up 16x20's next to a MF studio portrait.

My digital work is tremendously better than my 35mm work ever could have been now that I can control the entire process from composition to putting the frame on the wall. I shoot all the time, since I don't have to run to the lab every 36 frames and plunk down $$$, and I get to see my progress (or the lack thereof) in minutes rather than days.

Wanna spend lots of money? Invest in lenses, lights, tripods, and books. I'll love my 70-200 L lens even more on my next digital body as I do when it's attached to my humble D30. My next major purchase? Studio lights. The 1Ds can wait.

JTGB
Just You Average Photo Enthusiast

Ian Johnston said:

Ian Johnston said:

Now that a full frame high resolution digital camera finally
arrived, I am about to make the jump, but purchasing a 1Ds for an
amatuer like me is no small decision, check out my website and tell
me what you think:

http://www.imagereservoir.com

Howard

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I've always discovered that when I treat myself to a new piece of expensive kit (toy???) the quality and quantity of my images improve. I enjoy taking pictures more and I spend more time looking for good images.

If you can afford it, buy it!

I'm saving to buy a 1Ds or whatever there is when my funds get there, as I want/need full frame, fast AF and a chunky body, and I know I'll enjoy using it and I'm sure I'll take some ace photos with it.

In the meantime, however, I'm being treated to a D60 for use at work.

Tillman
http://www.tkimages.co.uk

Howard of course you DESERVE the 1Ds! And so do I! Only my pocket book prevents it from falling into my hands. That is of course unless I stop spending my 3 days off each week on the computer and work overtime since there is a entire wall of overtime sigh up sheets at work.

Howard said:

a G3?

Now that a full frame high resolution digital camera finally
arrived, I am about to make the jump, but purchasing a 1Ds for an
amatuer like me is no small decision, check out my website and tell
me what you think:

http://www.imagereservoir.com

Howard

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Now I decided that the 1Ds is too expensive and a G3 is not good enough, so a D60 sounds like a compromise. I am even willing to put up with the 1.6x cropping factor ...

But who has it in stock and how long is the wait?

Thanks,
Howard

Howard said:

a G3?

Now that a full frame high resolution digital camera finally
arrived, I am about to make the jump, but purchasing a 1Ds for an
amatuer like me is no small decision, check out my website and tell
me what you think:

http://www.imagereservoir.com

Howard

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If you pay the 2150 to 2200 USD amount, it should be haveable within
a week or so.

Also, consider the 1D if the 1Ds was a consideration. 1.3X multiplier.
Little noise at ISO 200. 0 at ISO 100. Great AF.

Steven

Howard said:

But who has it in stock and how long is the wait?

Thanks,
Howard

Howard said:

a G3?

Now that a full frame high resolution digital camera finally
arrived, I am about to make the jump, but purchasing a 1Ds for an
amatuer like me is no small decision, check out my website and tell
me what you think:

http://www.imagereservoir.com

Howard

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My really bad Fall Adventures:
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Howard, quite the dilemma! I just jumped into your thread and must say I agree with Steven and the others.

I've been shooting with a D30 for the last two years, 20,000 frames later I'm wanting a little wider, a little faster, a little more rugged. After the price announcement on the 1Ds, and price drops on the 1D, I took the plunge on a 1D and have been mostly happily shooting for two weeks now. After an initial scare with some banding at ISO200, I've found that it is a little wider, a lot faster, and a lot more rugged. And the color, wow! But I digress. There is a learning curve with anything new, and now that I'm learning to work around a few of the quirks on the 1D I'm really enjoying all of the benefits of this amazing photographic tool.

I'll reiterate that with digital you will learn new things because of the immediate feed back. I think I've learned more in the last two years than I could have learned in a lifetime with film.

I'd also have to say that I agree with one of the earlier posters about print size weighing in as a factor in the decision. The biggest print I ever did from my D30 was a 16x20--a real stretch. Most of the stuff I do is

If you’re serious about a D60 call Brian at onecall.com. I'm in no way affiliated with onecall, but have been a very satisfied customer of theirs for a number of years--and my latest experience with them with the 1D reaffirms it. When I was ordering my 1D, he told me that they have a great relationship with Canon and get lots of D60's in. Worth a shot!

Just my .02! =) – JIM

Steven Noyes said:

Also, consider the 1D if the 1Ds was a consideration. 1.3X
multiplier.
Little noise at ISO 200. 0 at ISO 100. Great AF.

Steven

Howard said:

But who has it in stock and how long is the wait?

Thanks,
Howard

Howard said:

a G3?

Now that a full frame high resolution digital camera finally
arrived, I am about to make the jump, but purchasing a 1Ds for an
amatuer like me is no small decision, check out my website and tell
me what you think:

http://www.imagereservoir.com

Howard

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I had an EOS3 with Canon glass for years, but when I started digital I put a toe in the water with point and shoots.

Who remembers the Agfas which preceded the Nikons? I was amazed by the quality in comparison to film at 4 x 6.

I went to a higher resolution Nikon CoolPix, and started using the EOS3 less and less (these shots were, for the most part, used to keep our family back in the U.S. up to date while we lived abroad via e-mail).

When I bought the D30, I stopped using the EOS3 altogether.

When I bought the 1D, I stopped using the D30 altogether.

I just bought the G3 for when I don't want to lug the big guy with L glass. You might start here and wait for prices to come down. It's got an excellent zoom range and excellent image quality -- take another look!

Happy hunting.

http://www.photography-on-the.net/gallery/

This site inspired me to join the ranks of digital photographers.

http://www.photography-on-the.net/gallery/

Check out the 93 G1 pictures on this site. I wish my D-60 galleries were as good as these.

Paul