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Are you kidding me... I just got a White LX5 and love it :-)

I have been thinking about P7000, S95 and LX5 (G12 was not a consideration as I just sold G11 last week)

I may not have time to complain because I will be too damn busy enjoying it :-D

Thank you everyone who contributed quality and convincing work at DPR!

Cheers.
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Perhaps much of the negative lx5, fz40 and fz100 comment has been the result of “attention deficit” rather than any failing on the part of the new cameras. It’s a small world now and attention amid growing anonymity is becoming highly prized. It seems the quest for meaningful life often expresses itself in unusual ways.

Congratulations on your new camera Faisal, sounds like your really enjoying it! :D

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Any camera that one enjoys is a good camera. Glad for you, Faisal!
 
yeah, it really is an amazing camera that when compared to the areas, definitely stands out from the rest.
Faisalee said:
I saw your thread just yesterday... P7000 was actually my second preference, but as they all say, its quite slugger. Trying these two side by side at the store, LX5 was the instant winner!!!

They pointers in your post helped a lot :)
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Same here. I got the white LX5 for my wife before going for vacation last week. I ended up using it most of the time. Now my EP-1 feeling pretty neglected...

Ai works really well with > 95% keeper for her but I prefer to use 'P' as Aperture control is crucial for me.

Too much hype and expectations resulting in many users complaining about artefacts, smearing details at iso 400 up... what do you expect from a small sensor and you usually don't print full size. I believe those who complained are usually DSLR or M4/3 users who view at 100% and hardly print beyond 8 x 10.

IQ is useable for up to 8 x 10 inch at iso 800, which is quite adequate for indoor shot due to the mega IS. I don't recommend iso1600.

There is no pefect camera but only perfect 'moment'.

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PinHoleCam said:
IQ is useable for up to 8 x 10 inch at iso 800, which is quite adequate for indoor shot due to the mega IS.
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......and remember that is ISO1600 for most compacts, when you take the fast lens into the equation. And you are probably looking at even ISO3200 on m4/3s cams if you are using anything outside of a prime lens.....guess it's one of the reasons why you EP1 is negleted.
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PinHoleCam said:
IQ is useable for up to 8 x 10 inch at iso 800, which is quite adequate for indoor shot due to the mega IS. I don't recommend iso1600.
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of course, that depends on the subject. those who have dealt for a long time with film also will recognize that noise=grain. careful work (monitoring temperatures closely when processing film, watching controls when shooting digital) minimizes this, but there's no eliminating it. fast film was always a holy grail -- we many of us did the acufine and diafine shuffle to get 3200 or even 6400 out of tri-x; then there was the whole 2475 recording film dance. all of these made lots of grain, but i have dandy 16x20s made from them. so if the subject is right, no reason to let noise prevent a big print, even from crazy-high "film" speeds.
PinHoleCam said:
There is no pefect camera but only perfect 'moment'.
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right. and no camera makes a non-great photographer a great photographer -- but it can free a great photographer to make great pictures. a good man with an sd400 will outshoot a poor photographer with the whole dslr lineup.
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Just send your white one to me so I can have both colors to match whatever I am wearing :)

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Stephen 06 said:
PinHoleCam said:
IQ is useable for up to 8 x 10 inch at iso 800, which is quite adequate for indoor shot due to the mega IS.
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......and remember that is ISO1600 for most compacts, when you take the fast lens into the equation. And you are probably looking at even ISO3200 on m4/3s cams if you are using anything outside of a prime lens.....guess it's one of the reasons why you EP1 is negleted.
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You nailed it. This is exactly why I limit my EP-1 to iso 1600 and LX5 to iso 800 for color. This is just me only. Anything beyond, too much smearing (low contrast) for my liking even at 8 x 10, as I do print quite often at 8 x 10 and A4.

The beauty of LX5 is the F2.0, with great sharpness at centre region. Very very sweet... Close up of food shots superlicious.....

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depscribe said:
PinHoleCam said:
IQ is useable for up to 8 x 10 inch at iso 800, which is quite adequate for indoor shot due to the mega IS. I don't recommend iso1600.
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of course, that depends on the subject. those who have dealt for a long time with film also will recognize that noise=grain. careful work (monitoring temperatures closely when processing film, watching controls when shooting digital) minimizes this, but there's no eliminating it. fast film was always a holy grail -- we many of us did the acufine and diafine shuffle to get 3200 or even 6400 out of tri-x; then there was the whole 2475 recording film dance. all of these made lots of grain, but i have dandy 16x20s made from them. so if the subject is right, no reason to let noise prevent a big print, even from crazy-high "film" speeds.
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Agree with you on B/W but not color. Wont hesitate to go iso 3200 (LX5) for B/W.
depscribe said:
depscribe said:
There is no pefect camera but only perfect 'moment'.
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right. and no camera makes a non-great photographer a great photographer -- but it can free a great photographer to make great pictures. a good man with an sd400 will outshoot a poor photographer with the whole dslr lineup.
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Yeah! My wife truly enjoys it and I finally get to see the artistic flair in her.
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Ed_arizona said:
Just send your white one to me so I can have both colors to match whatever I am wearing :)

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Expression of individual opinions should be encouraged, isn't this the spirits of forum? Not giving up my white LX5 unless it turns pink. ha ha
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PinHoleCam said:
Agree with you on B/W but not color. Wont hesitate to go iso 3200 (LX5) for B/W.
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don't know if you're old enough -- probably not -- to remember a product that was going to save us all: anscochrome 500. it was asa 500 transparency film; before that, we'd had high-speed ektachrome at asa 160, but for an extra $1 kodak would sell you an esp-1 envelope -- stood for "ektachrome special processing" -- which would cause them to push it a stop in processing for a glorious asa 320 (it was asa instead of iso back then). so when ansco gave us asa 500 slide film -- yippee!!! and it was indeed color film -- red is a color, right?
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depscribe said:
don't know if you're old enough -- probably not -- to remember a product that was going to save us all: anscochrome 500. it was asa 500 transparency film; before that, we'd had high-speed ektachrome at asa 160, but for an extra $1 kodak would sell you an esp-1 envelope -- stood for "ektachrome special processing" -- which would cause them to push it a stop in processing for a glorious asa 320 (it was asa instead of iso back then). so when ansco gave us asa 500 slide film -- yippee!!! and it was indeed color film -- red is a color, right?
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Not quite young my friend, if my main tool in the late 80's was Canon F1 with AE-Finder (LA Oly Version, I think....) and fiddling with all those FD lenses and Angeniux 80-200mm F4.

Don't mind high iso for color or BW film as the grain is very different from the digital. I didn't experiment with trans much as processing was uncommon in Asia (Singapore). I was on color film or BW (Tri-X, ilford HP5 and T-max).

Honestly, I was totally blown away (postively) with technology when I was reviewing shots from LX5 under B/W grainy setting. Still remember having to push +2-stops using B/W asa 400 film then print it on gross-paper to exemplify those beautiful noises. Just hope my wife's nagging (noise) is just as beautiful. ha ha. Oops! She's sitting right next to me watching TV....and me grinning.....

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PinHoleCam said:
Honestly, I was totally blown away (postively) with technology when I was reviewing shots from LX5 under B/W grainy setting. Still remember having to push +2-stops using B/W asa 400 film then print it on gross-paper to exemplify those beautiful noises.
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about a decade ago, when i was first experimenting with the dark side (as we then called digital photography), i got one of the sonys that wrote directly to a floppy, four highest-quality pictures per disk. then i discovered that star office had all kinds of filters and manipulations available. one day is showed and i looked out at the barn and made a picture with the sony. then i did all kinds of stuff to it --solarization a couple times, i remember, and a bunch of other things -- and actually liked the result, so i've kept it around (it's even part of the logo of a newspaper column i write):



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