Leica M bayonet -> NX

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Have had a look for such a beast but could not find one for sale.

Has anyone else been able to track one down?

Heaps of Leica M -> NEX or to m4/3 but none to NX as far as I can see.

Mmmm maybe Novoflex? Will have a look, but a Chinese clone would be good enough and far cheaper.

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Have had a look for such a beast but could not find one for sale.

Has anyone else been able to track one down?

Heaps of Leica M -> NEX or to m4/3 but none to NX as far as I can see.

Mmmm maybe Novoflex? Will have a look, but a Chinese clone would be good enough and far cheaper.

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Tom Caldwell
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There won´t be a Leica M adapter... at least that is many people say on the web.
The flange distance and mount diameter wouldn´t allow use it adapter.
 
Have had a look for such a beast but could not find one for sale.

Has anyone else been able to track one down?

Heaps of Leica M -> NEX or to m4/3 but none to NX as far as I can see.

Mmmm maybe Novoflex? Will have a look, but a Chinese clone would be good enough and far cheaper.

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Tom Caldwell
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There won´t be a Leica M adapter... at least that is many people say on the web.
The flange distance and mount diameter wouldn´t allow use it adapter.
Alexramos,

Thanks for your prompt response. Not a Leica mount expert and the various mounts on offer make my head spin a bit. (M42 M39 M-bayonet R others? - I think I understand them)

I have the idea that if Ricoh offer a Leica M sensor/adapter for their GXR as rumoured then if I could fit an M mount lens on the NX10 somehow I could use it on the NX10 in the meantime.

There is a Leica M39 screw mount adapter to the NX but no real way of adapting the M mount as you have noted. But it would obviously be easier to fit any suitable M mount lens directly to the rumoured GXR M module.

So my quest is a bit pointless and I had best stop wasting my time and effort.

I appreciate your help.

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These are things which we couldnt know before buying NX10.

All the adapters can't feet the NX10...So sad for us, manual lenses users.

I saw some guys who sometimes put two adapters on the camera.

Like:

Leica M lense on 'Leica to EOS adapter' and then fit it on 'EOS to NX adapter'

The problem with it is that it seems that it seems you will lose the infinity focus ability.
But nobody could confirm it on the Open forum...so maybe it is something to try.

I too have a m39 lens...and it was complicated to find a solution for it.

And to me, the adaper provided buy the chinese manufacturer on eBay just look so weak...I am afraid something happens and my lens fell down on the ground.

I envy Sony users, who can fit any lens of the NEX.
This is really tentative.

As it seems that, just like me, you tend to use your manual lenses more than your samsung lenses, I think the problem of changing your camera for a more 'manual friendly' one won't be too painful for you.

For me, I decided to keep my NX...even my frustrations. I'll see what Sony has to offer for a potential NEX7 which is rumored to be more serious than other NEX.

I'll also see what has Samsung to offer with its announced new cameras for NX system.
Then I'll make my decision.
 
I just bought my NX100, thinking I could use my Konica Hexar "M mount" lenses on it. Because crop factor was too high on m43, I choosed APS-C sensor. Soon after, I learnt on this forum, it would be impossible to find an adapter for NX. And I was disappointed, even I think NX100 is really good. A small Konica 28mm would have been so great on it.
 
Well, you could do a little bit of research: the problem have been discussed here before. Samsung's bayonet mount is too narrow to accomodate Leica M lenses. Also, unlike Sony E mount, NX mount is too small for FF sensors... I think this is a serious mistake on their part and it will cost them dearly in the future.
 
Other thing that you could do is change completely the NX mount to M mount on your NX100.
How? I don´t know, but must be possible and you would have a NX Leica.
 
Or why not changing the mount of the Leica lens to NX. Aha. Who of Leica or Samsung will pass away first. I hope it's not Leica, by conservatism.
 
Firstly the Chinese dumb adapters are not flimsy but seem very well made and robust. They do not give me any concern and I have an EOS and PK converter. I also have a Polish FD converter and the Novoflex PK with aperture control. these are also very well made, solid and precision devices.

I researched the Leica Mount via Wikipedia but have temporarily lost the printout. Not sure if I have 100% given up on the issue but will need to ask for help here from those that have better knowledge.

Basically Wikipedia lists throat sizes and flange back distances - maybe there can be some comment from the better informed.

Certainly there is at least one (expensive) adapter for the M39 screw mount to NX.

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Well, you could do a little bit of research: the problem have been discussed here before. Samsung's bayonet mount is too narrow to accomodate Leica M lenses. Also, unlike Sony E mount, NX mount is too small for FF sensors... I think this is a serious mistake on their part and it will cost them dearly in the future.
Must find the paperwork - I think it is only millimetres - but millimetres too far of course - and why do those in the US flag millimetres as a spelling mistake when they don't use the metric system themselves?

Even the Poms use the French spelling out of respect to the inventors of the system.

Even accepting millimetres as an alternative spelling would be good enough - it is not "wrong".

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Basically Wikipedia lists throat sizes and flange back distances - maybe there can be some comment from the better informed.
Samsung NX: 25.5mm flange distance and ~41mm mount throat.

Leica M: 27.8mm flange distance and ~44mm mount throat.

Unfortunately there's no space to accommodate M-lenses' focusing cams.
Certainly there is at least one (expensive) adapter for the M39 screw mount to NX.
It must be very thin and flimsy in order to reach infinity.
 
I have zero knowledge of optics... but wonder whether it would be possible to have an adaptor with a lens built in that would hold leica m lenses and generically compensate for the lengthened flange distance.
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Theoretically it's possible but it will ruin image quality. And isn't image quality the primary reason for using Leica lenses?
 
Basically Wikipedia lists throat sizes and flange back distances - maybe there can be some comment from the better informed.
Samsung NX: 25.5mm flange distance and ~41mm mount throat.

Leica M: 27.8mm flange distance and ~44mm mount throat.

Unfortunately there's no space to accommodate M-lenses' focusing cams.
Certainly there is at least one (expensive) adapter for the M39 screw mount to NX.
It must be very thin and flimsy in order to reach infinity.
Yes, did some research myself - will not work. Flangeback problem but someone has managed an m38 screw mount but it is pretty thin by what you can see on the web - looks robust enough though.

Don't have any of these lenses so I can easily scrap the idea.

Might design the next NX with a shorter flange back distance if at all possible - might be a sensor size problem but Sony managed it on the NEX)

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Might design the next NX with a shorter flange back distance if at all possible - might be a sensor size problem but Sony managed it on the NEX)
Why would they do that and what do you think will happen with the old NX lenses designed for 25.5mm distance in this case?
 
Might design the next NX with a shorter flange back distance if at all possible - might be a sensor size problem but Sony managed it on the NEX)
Why would they do that and what do you think will happen with the old NX lenses designed for 25.5mm distance in this case?
Quite right. A case of the armchair designer gone nuts. I doubt if Samsung are particularly insterested in redesigning their system so that a few superior types can fit Leica M mount lenses to the "NXII" mount when there are plenty of "lesser" mount types about that fit fine via existing adapters. The NX mount is none the less for it.

I am reconciled that there is little chance of a Leica M mount adaptered to a NX mount unless we get some engineering genius working to fine tolerances who can craft one out of titanium. I could not afford it and I don't need one anyway.

The rumour that Ricoh might make a Leica M adapter module for its GXR set me thinking about how such lenses might do double duty on the NX mount. Not having any such lenses it was a cerebral exercise only and I now know the virtual impossibility of the exercise and can go on to tease my brain with other futile causes (smile).

The only real reason for multi adapter fits to EVIL type cameras of any description is that many have old manual lenses tucked away. If they don't actually wish to be bothered with giving their lenses a new lease of life they at least now have a market for this "junk" from the attic and as long as they are still priced reasonably these lenses work tolerably well enough to be attractive to those willing enough to give them a good home for the moment. Those that already have such lenses are going to be drawn to the EVIL type that supports their mount. In the scheme of things the Ricoh contirbution is going to find a very small Church left by the time the Leica M mount mob have had a look at the NEX and M4/3.

Meanwhile I am happy enough with using pk and fd mounts on the NX.

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Tom Caldwell
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Tom,

Why do you write: "I doubt if Samsung are particularly insterested in redesigning their system so that a few superior types can fit Leica M mount lenses to the "NXII" mount when there are plenty of "lesser" mount types about that fit fine via existing adapters".

Considering this is your thread and you entittled it "Leica M bayonet-> NX your attitued is confusing.

BTW I have Leica M and screw mount lenses and I am happynto use them on any camera when I can find the appropriate adapters. This saves me money because I will not need to purchase additional lenses. Also I prefere manual focus over AF so adapting good quality Manual focus lenses is another good reason to use them where and when I can. But I'm perplexed by your comment I placed above, that I copied and quoted from your post below.
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Might design the next NX with a shorter flange back distance if at all possible - might be a sensor size problem but Sony managed it on the NEX)
Why would they do that and what do you think will happen with the old NX lenses designed for 25.5mm distance in this case?
Quite right. A case of the armchair designer gone nuts. I doubt if Samsung are particularly insterested in redesigning their system so that a few superior types can fit Leica M mount lenses to the "NXII" mount when there are plenty of "lesser" mount types about that fit fine via existing adapters. The NX mount is none the less for it.

I am reconciled that there is little chance of a Leica M mount adaptered to a NX mount unless we get some engineering genius working to fine tolerances who can craft one out of titanium. I could not afford it and I don't need one anyway.

The rumour that Ricoh might make a Leica M adapter module for its GXR set me thinking about how such lenses might do double duty on the NX mount. Not having any such lenses it was a cerebral exercise only and I now know the virtual impossibility of the exercise and can go on to tease my brain with other futile causes (smile).

The only real reason for multi adapter fits to EVIL type cameras of any description is that many have old manual lenses tucked away. If they don't actually wish to be bothered with giving their lenses a new lease of life they at least now have a market for this "junk" from the attic and as long as they are still priced reasonably these lenses work tolerably well enough to be attractive to those willing enough to give them a good home for the moment. Those that already have such lenses are going to be drawn to the EVIL type that supports their mount. In the scheme of things the Ricoh contirbution is going to find a very small Church left by the time the Leica M mount mob have had a look at the NEX and M4/3.

Meanwhile I am happy enough with using pk and fd mounts on the NX.

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