photo: unquiet

I suspect he is someone who would comment on work done by for example Kadinsky that his baby cousin is capable of the same ;)
That's exactly what he wants and if he can upset you, he's accomplished what he has planned from the beginning. He's a provacateur who only wants to cause trouble and draw attention to himself at your expense IMO.
I do agree. But he's not a provocateur, he's a clown. Go look at the "photographs" in his gallery.

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I suspect he is someone who would comment on work done by for example Kadinsky that his baby cousin is capable of the same ;)
Being serious for a moment.

The acclamation of rubbish as 'art' is on of the surest signs of a depraved and decaying civilisation.

It's a genuine sickness - deceived minds hailing a toilet roll, or a heap of bricks, or a unmade bed, or the entrails of a dead animal (all of which have been exhibited at the Tate) as bona-fide artworks, worth huge sums of money.

Millions of people in this world are dying for a lack of clean water, more millions die for a lack of food, or medicine, warmth, or shelter - while we in the effete West study a crumpled snot-covered tissue, and gravely pronounce it to be 'art'!

God will judge us for our iniquitous foolishness - and rightly so.
 
I suspect he is someone who would comment on work done by for example Kadinsky that his baby cousin is capable of the same ;)
Being serious for a moment.

The acclamation of rubbish as 'art' is on of the surest signs of a depraved and decaying civilisation.

It's a genuine sickness - deceived minds hailing a toilet roll, or a heap of bricks, or a unmade bed, or the entrails of a dead animal (all of which have been exhibited at the Tate) as bona-fide artworks, worth huge sums of money.

Millions of people in this world are dying for a lack of clean water, more millions die for a lack of food, or medicine, warmth, or shelter - while we in the effete West study a crumpled snot-covered tissue, and gravely pronounce it to be 'art'!

God will judge us for our iniquitous foolishness - and rightly so.
Weaken your statements, madame/monsieur. You have wished hell to a number of famous artists. You forget that the (only) value of (any) art [including photography] is in its symbolic or metaphorical meaning. It is a scandal you put this trash on an art forum. Yours, Peter Paul H.
 
Weaken your statements, madame/monsieur. You have wished hell to a number of famous artists. You forget that the (only) value of (any) art [including photography] is in its symbolic or metaphorical meaning. It is a scandal you put this trash on an art forum. Yours, Peter Paul H.
Firstly, this is not an 'art forum' - by which, I assume, you mean a place for poseurs, charlatans, and assorted confidence tricksters to preen themselves, and elevate to iconic status that which properly belongs in rubbish bin?

Photography is, indeed, an odd hobby! A man might buy a car - yet he doesn't usually consider himself to be a latter-day Fangio. He might buy a brush to paint his window ledges with - but he doesn't immediately attempt to emulate DaVinci!

Yet, that same man buys a cheap plastic camera - and, at once, considers himself to be a vehicle for the expression of artistic truth and beauty. A channel, through which must flow spiritual revelations that will make other men weep with a barely enunciable longing for the things of the soul.

When, in reality, his images might be nothing more than poorly composed snapshots of twigs and other detritus.

Why is this?
 
What foolishness has bought you to this forum? Why waste so much of your energy and money on an camera when there are so many who are desperately in need of that. The money you spend on your photography equipment can provide food for a year for a starving child.

God also does not like hypocrites.
Millions of people in this world are dying for a lack of clean water, more millions die for a lack of food, or medicine, warmth, or shelter - while we in the effete West study a crumpled snot-covered tissue, and gravely pronounce it to be 'art'!

God will judge us for our iniquitous foolishness - and rightly so.
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Roosje
http://www.flickr.com/photos/roosjeh/
 
What foolishness has bought you to this forum?
The 4/3 system - and things don't get much more foolish than that ;)
Why waste so much of your energy and money on an camera when there are so many who are desperately in need of that. The money you spend on your photography equipment can provide food for a year for a starving child.

God also does not like hypocrites.
Ah, I see that a nerve has been touched.

You have no idea what I do, or do not, give to charity - as I have no idea about your own response.

So that's best left.

My point, however, remains valid - which is, that it is only the pampered overfed, over indulged 'West' that can afford the luxury of artistic critique.

In so many parts of this world, Godrey's 'Twig' would represent desperately needed fuel, his 'Car Wash' would mean only the criminal squandering of fresh water, and his 'Gravestone' would serve only to mock the pit into which they are obliged to bury their own dead children.

However, the pampered society, in which vain men busy themselves discussing the 'hidden meaning' of amateurish snapshots is coming to an end.

You do realise that. don't you?
 
It has an "Arty" feel,
But not "Unquiet"

I have no suggestions, other than more dramatic lighting, and maybe fake wind blur on some of the leaves.

at least your are taking your "ideas to print"

Nice tones BTW...
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Ideas to print?
:D LOL, LOL
Figure of speech......
That is: at least he is recording his ideas and posting them for critic

snip....

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Thank you, Richard.

I doubt tedolf has discovered anything not covered in a Kodak "How To Take A Picture" child's primer, unfortunately.
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Godfrey
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He is too advanced for that IN HIS MIND , but not in his images! :D

But, that book still has very valid technique for those who do want to improve their images beyond snapshots .
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Too many lenses ;-D
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My point, however, remains valid - which is, that it is only the pampered overfed, over indulged 'West' that can afford the luxury of artistic critique.
Art has been in many cultures an important factor and not only in the West, you only have to look at India, Japan, Africa, Indonesia with their rich cultures. Art has been an important part in the lives of many illiterate people. In the Medeaval times for example it was the way to tell the story of Christ and his disciples, since there were a very few who could read.

We have two African statues in our garden, made in an African village where sculptors get material and an optimal working environment, most of the money goes to the artist and often you can meet them here on the expositions. They make the most beautiful things. Picasso for example has been strongly influenced by the African art and van Gogh by the Japanese.

It are only the very few who are able to live from their art. For five years, five days a week I followed art classes at the Royal Art Academy in the Hague and for two years I studied Art History at the university of Leiden. I have seen and know how hard it is to survive as an artist. I had a classmate who lived mainly on bread and milk for weeks. The milk was to neutralize the acids fumes which he was confronted with while making his etchings.

Their are excesses in the Art world, but those excesses you can find everywhere.

One of the things I know about is what is good artwork and believe me, Godfrey is good. I believe that there has been quite a few expositions with his work.

I think it is sad and quite frightening to see how ignorance can turn out into a witch hunt, it seems that we have not learned anything from the past.

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Roosje
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Although I've liked a few of Godfrey's snapshots, these types of photos remind me of a woman that was in my photography group. She basically takes photos of textures of buildings and junk laying on the ground, and thinks her stuff is much better than others. She has a high opinion of her own photos. If you don't give her good comments, she gets defensive. She is no longer a member of our group, because no one bowed down to her ego.
 
Thank you for your thoughts.

Unlike the woman in your group, I have no intent of leaving the forum, nor do I require anyone to "bow down" or anything like that.

I post for the enjoyment of those that would. I do not ask for critique or commentary. I state that I appreciate all comments, if you choose to leave one.

If the work is not to your taste, feel free to say it and/or not, as fits your whim. I retain the right to disagree with your commentary and opinion, but thank you for it nonetheless.
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Godfrey
http://godfreydigiorgi.posterous.com
 
You have no idea what I do, or do not, give to charity - as I have no idea about your own response.

So that's best left.
Neither do you have any idea about what Peter Paul does or who he is. Or what Godfrey does, for that matter. Your above defense hits back at you and shatters your own "point".

Peter Paul, verrassend je hier te treffen!
Roosje, mooie reactie van je!

Jeanette
 
You have no idea what I do, or do not, give to charity - as I have no idea about your own response.

So that's best left.
Neither do you have any idea about what Peter Paul does or who he is. Or what Godfrey does, for that matter. Your above defense hits back at you and shatters your own "point".
Ah, mon cheri - I never 'defend', I simply 'state'

I'm entitled to my opinion, and I can assure you that no absurdly pirouetting mannequins will alter it.
Peter Paul, verrassend je hier te treffen!
Roosje, mooie reactie van je!
What a lot of utterly pointless croaking.
 
Unquiet in the micro Four Thirds forum. Not the first time I might add.

Most of you here outdo politicians. A lot of talk about nothing!

Photographic art, any art really, comes down to; do you like it or not?

I don't like this photo. It doesn't have anything to hold my interest.

But don't stop posting photos just because there are too many fools posting here.
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Peter.
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I come to the forum because I like to see art that hits me with some emotional power. What else is photography? About two-thirds of Godrefy's photographs do that. This is one. I like the contrast between the straight lines and right angles of the brick and mortar, and the organic irregularity and subtlety of the of the twigs and leaves. I especially like the tonality of the photograph, the chiascuro, and the way that Godfrey has brought out the luminence of the leaves without going overboard into some sort of weird glow. This is a photograph that works for me.

I'm not sure of the title. I like metaphorical titles, but sometimes metaphor can descend into obscurity, and I'm afraid this one does for me. I say that because I find it a very peaceful scene, as someone mentioned, sort of like a Japanese print.

I'm sorry that Godfrey has become a magnet for a lot of silliness on his postings. He doesn't seem to mind, or at least pretends so, but I get tired of wading through the cr* , and certain posters' crazy agendas. Maybe because I take my photography seriously, although I can't say my work is accomplished, that I tire of adolescents in all but years.

Let's hear it for the ignore button. Tedolf, you keep me off balance. Just when I think it's time for the ignore button for you, you say some perceptive and interesting things. Have to constanstly re-evaluate where are are each day.
 

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