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Lots of Noise!!
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Mathias Vejerslev
Senior Member
There was a smiley in my last post that didn´t make it through. I´ll try again:
Graham Hunter
Member
You can try mine at http://www.pbase.com/doctorcd2002/nature that I posted some weeks ago.
Some of these were taken in what I consider to be low light conditions, but using 1600x1200 on a "fine" quality JPEG compression setting.
I'm buggered if I can see a noise problem in these pics, maybe a trained or experienced eye can, but it dont bother me none if so. Let me know what you think.
Some of these were taken in what I consider to be low light conditions, but using 1600x1200 on a "fine" quality JPEG compression setting.
I'm buggered if I can see a noise problem in these pics, maybe a trained or experienced eye can, but it dont bother me none if so. Let me know what you think.
Have tried any indoor shots? You outdoor shots look great...
Graham Hunter
Member
The bird, lizard and butterfly shots were all taken inside an enclosure and the light albeit natural, was pretty low as you can tell from the exif of the shots. I've since taken many indoor shots (ie people portraits) using the built in flash without any noise issue that would bother me. I've also played with the ISO setting with no flash and find that I can live with up to 400 ISO noise levels in low light but at 800 its clearly seen. However, I personally prefer the compromise using a higher ISO that allows a faster shutter speed as compared to a lower ISO but longer shutter speed and the inevitable camera shake that occurs. Give me noise over blurred pictures any day.
csbrown
Leading Member
Dave Wyman113235
Active member
http://www.pbase.com/image/6290910
Jae,
O.k, here's some low-light shots, either interiors or 4 second night shots. See if you find any noise and/or find objectionable noise.
Dave
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Mathias Vejerslev
Senior Member
digislr
Veteran Member
That shot looks great, BUt its already been resized and photoshop'ed - This is not an original file from camera...Im going to try and upload one of my original indoorpics in a sec. Im on 56k here at this PC so it may take a while....when its up Ill let you know
SteveS76444
Leading Member
Graham, I can see some "Noise" on your shots, especially in the background not too bad though. Remarkably, I can't see any in Dave Wyman's shot unless he's done some editing in PS.
digislr
Veteran Member
I uploaded some samples at teh URL below. make sure you click on teh "original" files to see the noise in all its glory! here is a quick D60/D7hi noise compare. Both outdoors, both straight from camera 100% crops.
To see more, go here and view originals:
http://www.pbase.com/videoman/d7hi_noise_sample
To see more, go here and view originals:
http://www.pbase.com/videoman/d7hi_noise_sample
Carol Baidinger
Well-known member
How do you take such clear pictures? What's your secret with everyone clammoring about noise?! I have had my 7HI for a couple of weeks. I always like my camera and then everyone gets riled up about this noise issue. Why do you think that is? Have you ever had trouble with noise? Is it your technique. Share, please
Carol Baidinger
Well-known member
What ever is in the bottom right of the Canon pic?
digislr
Veteran Member
Kris Kadela
Senior Member
I wonder what minolta could have changed since my D7 (no UG or anything) does rather well in low light. I just took a pic of some fruit on my table. ISO 100, 1/4s exposure. I find ISO 200 noisy too but nothing like your wedding photo.I uploaded some samples at teh URL below. make sure you click on
teh "original" files to see the noise in all its glory! here is a
quick D60/D7hi noise compare. Both outdoors, both straight from
camera 100% crops.
To see more, go here and view originals:
http://www.pbase.com/videoman/d7hi_noise_sample
Full size at
http://pictures.dgraph.com/low_light
Steve
Has the 7Hi picture been post-processed or set for high in-camera sharpening? I see what looks to be more sharpening artifacts than noise.
If that's the case, I would like to see the original with EXIF info.
Steve
Has the 7Hi picture been post-processed or set for high in-camera sharpening? I see what looks to be more sharpening artifacts than noise.
If that's the case, I would like to see the original with EXIF info.
Steve
Kris,
I like your picture some of the previous pictures were kind of dark.
I like your picture some of the previous pictures were kind of dark.
I wonder what minolta could have changed since my D7 (no UG or
anything) does rather well in low light. I just took a pic of some
fruit on my table. ISO 100, 1/4s exposure. I find ISO 200 noisy too
but nothing like your wedding photo.
Full size at
http://pictures.dgraph.com/low_light
Mathias Vejerslev
Senior Member
In my experience, the D7 has aggressive luminance noise compared to, say, Canon or Nikon in the same consumer segment. Whether you find noise disturbing or not, is a matter of preference weighted against other factors, such as the method of noise supression, choice of ISO speed, camera specs etc.. But why worry so much about digital noise, when it is so easy to diminish?
I don´t own a Minolta, I´m just here to blatantly advertise for my (free) actions, however, I´ve spend a long time testing them across many different camera models with many different ISO speeds. One thing is for sure; there´s always a camera that does worse. And this will always be a fact.
Regards
Mathias
http://www.2morrow.dk/75ppi/coolpix/actions/
Has the 7Hi picture been post-processed or set for high in-camera
sharpening? I see what looks to be more sharpening artifacts than
noise.
If that's the case, I would like to see the original with EXIF info.
Steve
Tom Crowning
Senior Member
Some points:
http://www2.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3660
- I wouldn't compare the D7 against one of the cameras with the lowest noise level known
- the noisy part of the D7 image is 1 stop darker than the same skin region in the Canon image
- if enough people are interested I can try to take 2 identicaly exposured shots with the D7 and the D60 and provide some 100% crops next weekend.
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http://www2.photosig.com/userphotos.php?id=3660
That would be very helpful crowning, as people posting images taken at different times of different subjects under different lighting conditions makes the comparison a bit academic and not very useful at all.
I would also say though, that at normal printing resolutions and sizes noise in any of the modern digital cameras is also a bit academic. I think too much noise has been made about the noise of different cameras. lol
I would also say though, that at normal printing resolutions and sizes noise in any of the modern digital cameras is also a bit academic. I think too much noise has been made about the noise of different cameras. lol
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