Canon Powershot S95 or Panasonic LX5 has better image quality?

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I am looking for a compact camera. Image quality is my primary concern. I use inteliggent Auto mode almost 97.5% of the time.

In terms of physical outlook, S95 fits my needs better. It is smaller and can be accomodated in my pant pocket (LX5 has a protrusion that makes a bulge). S95 also stays clear of the flash mount, which for me is redundant as I always use the camera as it is and never put on additional flash or lens.

I am just worried that the image quality of S95 may not be so good as LX5 as I have read reviews saying that LX5/LX3 can shoot under normal conditions almost as good as EOS 5D.

Please give me some suggestions and your professional view on this. Thanks a lot for your help!
 
There have been a ton of both professional and amateur comparisons on these 2 cameras and the results are flip-flopped; one comparison will put the S95 ahead and another will put the LX5 ahead. The consensus between them though seems to be that these two camera are very close in IQ.
 
Trust me, get the S95! I am not saying that just because I have one and love it, but because it sounds like the camera that fits your needs the best. You don't want any of the features that the LX5 has over the S95. This thing is great for the casual picture taker that wants the best IQ possible in a point and shoot. The difference is the IQ between these cameras in negligible. The LX5 isn't going to fit in your pocket very well, so it's going to be left at home much more than the S95. I bet everyone else is going to agree...
Have fun with either one.
 
There have been a ton of both professional and amateur comparisons on these 2 cameras and the results are flip-flopped; one comparison will put the S95 ahead and another will put the LX5 ahead. The consensus between them though seems to be that these two camera are very close in IQ.
Yes, I was about to write the same thing. :-)

I agree with the other poster as well - being that there's no significant difference in image quality between the 2 the size difference and the ease with which you can bring the camera with you will have a much larger impact on the photos you get. Go with the some who's size is preferrable.

The one drawback in the reviews between the s95 and the lx5 is that x95 tends to blow out highlight (overexpose the picture a little). If you simply turn the exposure compensation down to -1/3rd like a lot of us do, that pretty much evens things out.
 
I got a lot of noise on the LX5. Also the smallest Panasonic flash is three times the size of the LX5. For the S95 i use the tiny slave flash Canon HF-DC1 (about half the size of the S95).

Also the LX5 jpegs are inferior, as talked about in dpreview.
 
Guys, thanks for the comments. I have decided to go with S95 given its pocket size and almost the same image quality with LX5. This means i can carry it everywhere I go and triple its usage effectiveness. Thanks for the advices anyway!
 
The difference is the IQ between these cameras in negligible.
....negligible?. If you shoot indoors beyond 50mm, there is about 1 stop of a difference in ISO between the two cams. Using ISO400 on a LX5 compared to using ISO800 on a S95 would be be hardly negligible in my eyes.
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Stephen
 
The difference is the IQ between these cameras in negligible.
....negligible?. If you shoot indoors beyond 50mm, there is about 1 stop of a difference in ISO between the two cams. Using ISO400 on a LX5 compared to using ISO800 on a S95 would be be hardly negligible in my eyes.
On the other hand, the LX5 was noted as having poor white balance in more than one review. It would be nice if the S95 lens progressed like the LX5 along the range but each has their pros and cons.
 
I've had the LX1/2/3/5, and while they are great cameras, the lens cap is annoying, and they are an "in-between" size that doesn't carry well in a shirt pocket, but seems a little too small to bother with a neck strap. If you don't need the extra width of the 24mm offered by the LX, get the S95. That's what I have now, and it works well for me. I like to carry it in the PSC-900 case on my belt, with a short wrist strap. It is very comfortable and unobtrusive to carry, but quick to put bring into action. I've also carried it on a neck lanyard in my shirt pocket, very nice as well.

IQ with these two cameras is similar, but the Panasonic colors are not as spot-on as the Canon, and the Panasonic tends to smear details more with its over-aggressive noise reduction.
 
On the other hand, the LX5 was noted as having poor white balance in more than one review. It would be nice if the S95 lens progressed like the LX5 along the range but each has their pros and cons.
Poor white balance is a mickey mouse affair and easily corrected without even having to shoot raw. But if one is serious about the LX5....then the WB is even more of a non-event. Most users who go to the trouble (and expense) of getting a serious compact like the LX5.... will shoot raw. But the difference in ISO400 to 800 even on the same camera is more than a mickey mouse affair.

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I...think I disagree with everything you wrote, lol.
On the other hand, the LX5 was noted as having poor white balance in more than one review. It would be nice if the S95 lens progressed like the LX5 along the range but each has their pros and cons.
Well ok, I agree with the lens comment that it would be nice. :-)
Poor white balance is a mickey mouse affair and easily corrected without even having to shoot raw.
White balance is easily "changed" with RAW, but it is not necessarily easy "corrected". Sometimes it's a giant pita to fine-tune the white balance until you get it right, and it's way easier if the camera just does an acceptable job in the first place.

Of course the s95 is not perfect in this regard either. But we're talking about compact cameras here where most shots are not done in studio lighting where you're going to apply the identical white balance across all your pictures or something.
But if one is serious about the LX5....then the WB is even more of a non-event. Most users who go to the trouble (and expense) of getting a serious compact like the LX5.... will shoot raw. But the difference in ISO400 to 800 even on the same camera is more than a mickey mouse affair.
Well actually...I misread this the first time and now I'm to lazy to scroll up and correct what I wrote, lol - guess I do agree with a lot of what you wrote!

The difference between iso400 and iso800, unlike white balance, is not correctable afterwards like you say. However, that's only the case after you started zooming in low light. Think of the places where you'd be taking low light shots - a bar, family Christmas gathering, friends posing for a shot - mostly places where there's not a lot of need to zoom, and if you do you can often simply "foot zoom" - just move closer to the people you're taking a picture of.

To be fair, the one common exception I know of is concerts/plays where you're forced to sit back from the event and so you pretty much have to zoom. Sometimes they put quite a bit of light on the stage - sometimes they don't. But that's like - 1% of my low light pictures.

I mean all cameras are tradeoffs. If size wasn't important you could just bring a dslr. If the tradeoff between the s95 and the lx5 was that the lx5 had 1 stop better iso performance everywhere, that would be a tough decision. But since it's only 1 stop after you've zoomed in a lot ...eh, that's something I can definitely live with in exchange for the smaller size. The vast majority of my low light pictures aren't in situations where I needed zoom anyways.

The people who are serious about photography use a dslr. They don't use a compact camera for their serious work. For them, both the lx5 and s95 are for "less serious" photos, and you might as well go with the one that's more convenient to bring with you.
 
The difference is the IQ between these cameras in negligible.
....negligible?. If you shoot indoors beyond 50mm, there is about 1 stop of a difference in ISO between the two cams. Using ISO400 on a LX5 compared to using ISO800 on a S95 would be be hardly negligible in my eyes.
If you're shooting raw, I'd be cautious about assuming that there's a true 1-stop ISO difference when using the marked ISO400 on the S95 vs. the marked ISO800 on the LX5. DxOMark shows the LX3 being about -2/3 ev less sensitive than its indicated ISO's, while the S90 is a wee bit more sensitive.

See this comparison: http://www.dxomark.com/index.php/en/Camera-Sensor/Compare-sensors/ (appareil1) 625%7C0 (appareil2) 567%7C0 (onglet) 0 (brand) Canon (brand2) Panasonic

With that in mind, if you're a raw shooter, if you're going to compare these two cameras, definitely test to see how their respective images turn out when using the same ISO/aperture/shutter speed. I found the LX5 to be about -2/3 ev less sensitive, much like the LX3. But hey, you don't have to believe me, just do the comparison yourself.

Just don't accept it as gospel that the LX5, when shooting in raw, has accurately rated ISO speeds.

larsbc
 
With that in mind, if you're a raw shooter, if you're going to compare these two cameras, definitely test to see how their respective images turn out when using the same ISO/aperture/shutter speed. I found the LX5 to be about -2/3 ev less sensitive, much like the LX3. But hey, you don't have to believe me, just do the comparison yourself.
Yep...you said that in the Panny forum a few days ago too, and i'm still waiting for the images that you shot to back up your claims.

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Stephen
 
With that in mind, if you're a raw shooter, if you're going to compare these two cameras, definitely test to see how their respective images turn out when using the same ISO/aperture/shutter speed. I found the LX5 to be about -2/3 ev less sensitive, much like the LX3. But hey, you don't have to believe me, just do the comparison yourself.
Yep...you said that in the Panny forum a few days ago too, and i'm still waiting for the images that you shot to back up your claims.
Just go to DxOMark if you want "scientific proof" that the LX3 has over-rated ISO values. Speaking of which, I'm still waiting for your "scientific proof" that your LX5's image stabilization performance "blows the Canon out of the water."

larsbc
 

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