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The TL-500 was out for a second round of HDR shooting today and I have posted 11 of the images at the link posted below(flickr). As a fan of HDR, I have recently owned and used a Canon 7D and purchased the TL-500 to do HDR and B&W. It is my experience that the TL-500 proves very satisfactory in delivering images suitable for post processing. In fact, it exceeds what I thought it could do. I really am pleased with this camera. So much so, I have only used my LX-5 on one occasion since I have had both.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sensorfx/
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Joe
 
fotophool said:
Your HDR development is a little extreme for my tastes, but each to his own.

Here's a couple of recent HDR takes I've done with the TL500 and 3-exposure bracketing.

fotophool
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You and your pictures are boring. I didn't ask for you crap comment. In fact, I didn't see it till I has to hit the Show button because you are on my IGNORE list because...well, you bore me and your post is yet another example of your borish self-absorbed behavior. Now, photoFool, go away.
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Like the photoFool says, "..to each his own." To this I say, yes indeed, but no one asks for childish behavior like,"I don't like yours...here's mine!" What a LOSER. And, I do owe one thanks to the FOOL, because, he/she reminds me that DP Review is best when forums are ignored.

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Joe, you are being too sensitive. HDR can be used simply to enhance the detail captured in an image, as in "fotophool's" two images, which is why I think he posted them. In the hands of an experienced user HDR can be a tool to create artistic images such as your own. And when it comes to art, I think everyone agrees we do not all like the same thing.

Although I prefer to work with black and white, from my days with FP4 and HP5, I think some of your images are fabulous, and would have them on my wall, but there are some that I don't like. Be proud of your work, and don't worry about differing tastes.
 
fotophool, were your bracketed images handheld?
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Overall I can't say enough positive things about this camera. Sure it would be nice if it had HD video or a higher resolution screen but those aren't required to take fantastic pictures.
 
Blin Sky said:
Thanks for sharing the images. I did not know that the HDR images are so wonderful.
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There are many who differ with you. Opinions are what they are and speak to preference.

The takeaway I get from these posts is that some folks are really committed to their tastes, and, their passion reveals just how petty some can be, like, say, the fotophool fella. Speaking of him, I must have seen his images everywhere around here. Plus, there was some really boring ones of a plant that must have 50 postings. He adores them apparently.

HDR is a widely accepted photo technique, like it or not.
 
joesensorfx said:
The TL-500 was out for a second round of HDR shooting today and I have posted 11 of the images at the link posted below(flickr). As a fan of HDR, I have recently owned and used a Canon 7D and purchased the TL-500 to do HDR and B&W. It is my experience that the TL-500 proves very satisfactory in delivering images suitable for post processing. In fact, it exceeds what I thought it could do. I really am pleased with this camera. So much so, I have only used my LX-5 on one occasion since I have had both.
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I like your HDR effects. They are rich in color and add a nice touch to an image. IMHO, HDR adds another facet to photography. It is now on my ToDo list.
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Jim

Photographers take pictures, not cameras.
 
James Cafferty said:
joesensorfx said:
The TL-500 was out for a second round of HDR shooting today and I have posted 11 of the images at the link posted below(flickr). As a fan of HDR, I have recently owned and used a Canon 7D and purchased the TL-500 to do HDR and B&W. It is my experience that the TL-500 proves very satisfactory in delivering images suitable for post processing. In fact, it exceeds what I thought it could do. I really am pleased with this camera. So much so, I have only used my LX-5 on one occasion since I have had both.
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I like your HDR effects. They are rich in color and add a nice touch to an image. IMHO, HDR adds another facet to photography. It is now on my ToDo list.
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All the best,
Jim

Photographers take pictures, not cameras.
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As a huge fan of HDR, I keep my TL500 on a tripod, ready to capture them. They can add dimensionality to images. Suprisingly, they produce images that exceed the percieved ability of the small-sensored advanced compact.
 
I think fotophool is right. HDR can help to add some depth to a photo, however it soon becomes too much, turning it into yet another cheap artfilter like trick.
 
JoostL said:
I think fotophool is right. HDR can help to add some depth to a photo, however it soon becomes too much, turning it into yet another cheap artfilter like trick.
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Out of curiousity I have looked at fotophool's pictures on Flickr. After doing this I can with high confidence that he clearly was being contrarian with his "too extreme" for his tastes comment. Seriously! It's only too extreme if one deems it to be so. To take issue with others application of HDR processing as though the critic was the sole arbiter of good and bad is total balderdash.

There are people who like black & white and some who still like film, unable to join the digital age. Moreover, there are people who do not believe Ansel Adams doctored his images then just as Photoshoppers do now. Who cares? In the Fotophool commentary you see someone who is all about self promotion by his sniffing around to find yet another place to put his images whilst putting someone else on the defensive. That's being an ass clown.
 
JoostL said:
I think fotophool is right. HDR can help to add some depth to a photo, however it soon becomes too much, turning it into yet another cheap artfilter like trick.
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Saying HDR is like a cheap art filter trick speaks volumes as to the myopic viewpoint you hold regarding photography. Like or not it's here to stay and, oftentimes produces images of scenes and things much better than a single digital file could have.

To naysayers all; maybe you can start an antiHDR forum and can meet there for a virtual group hug.
 
There there, now where did I state I was anti HDR? I only wrote that too much is too much, but that goes for any technique. The fact in itself that HDR is "widely accepted" or "here to stay" (like you write) doesn't mean it is always good, does it?
 
joesensorfx said:
The TL-500 was out for a second round of HDR shooting today and I have posted 11 of the images at the link posted below(flickr). As a fan of HDR, I have recently owned and used a Canon 7D and purchased the TL-500 to do HDR and B&W. It is my experience that the TL-500 proves very satisfactory in delivering images suitable for post processing. In fact, it exceeds what I thought it could do. I really am pleased with this camera. So much so, I have only used my LX-5 on one occasion since I have had both.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/sensorfx/
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Joesensorfx, from TL-500 Manual, Pg-74, Smart Mode: “Camera takes two photos with different exposures, and than overlays the bright of the underexposed photo and the dark of overexposed photo”. I suppose this feature is used to improve DR and might be similar to S95 or other HDR technique.

1. Did you use 3 bracketed images and separate software to make HDR images shown on flkr, or use Smart Mode?
2. Did you try the Smart Mode on pg. 74, and what is result?

3. If you did, would you please post pictures to compare bracketed pictures HDR processed, and picture taken using Smart Mode?
Thanks in advance.
 
JoostL said:
There there, now where did I state I was anti HDR? I only wrote that too much is too much, but that goes for any technique. The fact in itself that HDR is "widely accepted" or "here to stay" (like you write) doesn't mean it is always good, does it?
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On reflection, I agree with you.
 
Thanks for posting these. I love my TL-500 and it is great to see how far you can push it. Also, don't get upset with Fotophol. If you post on DPreview, you MUST expect criticism, and, IMHO, it was pretty light, especially considering the vicious and bizarre nonsense one can see here.. I liked to see both HDR treatments and can appreciate post. Good work!
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Rich Lanthier
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Rich Lanthier said:
Thanks for posting these. I love my TL-500 and it is great to see how far you can push it. Also, don't get upset with Fotophol. If you post on DPreview, you MUST expect criticism, and, IMHO, it was pretty light, especially considering the vicious and bizarre nonsense one can see here.. I liked to see both HDR treatments and can appreciate post. Good work!
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Having fun with photos.
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Rich & All,

Sorry, I didn't mean to start a firestorm here. My apologies to the OP especially.

There is a wide latitude to almost every aspect of photography, but that seems particularly true of what we commonly refer to as HDR. I'm not suggesting any particular point along a line running from left to right is better than another. Like I said, to each his (or her) own. Pick out a point and set up shop. Or try several points. Enjoy yourselves!

I've gone through several different stages myself since I started attempting HDR. I may well enter another stage (or two or more) before things are done. Who knows?

Nothing is set in stone. Subjects and software are constantly changing.

Photographers should, too.

fotophool

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7131002@N05/

 
TechOutsider said:
fotophool, were your bracketed images handheld?
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Overall I can't say enough positive things about this camera. Sure it would be nice if it had HD video or a higher resolution screen but those aren't required to take fantastic pictures.
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Tech,

I thought I remembered taking the tug shots by hand, but the more I revisit that pic I suspect that I had the camera resting on a rail. It just looks too sharp to have been handheld.

The car shot I know was resting on a rail.

The below, taken at the same location as the other two, was handheld.

Most HDR software will make an attempt to align the images, but a flat surface or a tripod is advised if feasible.

Of course it's possible to do "HDR" on a single image as well, a la Topaz Adjust or ReDynaMix and probably others as well.

fotophool

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7131002@N05/

 
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