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My perspective is that a k-x would feel a bit too small in the hands compared to my K10D (like your K20D) which I'm so used to. Also I'm just an amateur, so I don't feel the need for a backup so much, though I also have a great p&s. The K-r is looking like a good replacement coming soon for my purposes. I like the size. I now prefer the simpler layout, and all the other features are going to be great to play with. If I were in your shoes I might wait for a K-5 and keep the K20 as a backup. The extra controls are great for faster/custom control. I'd want those in any camera if I did a lot of manual and repetitive daily photography. Maybe the little optio can be the backup for while longer until the K20D takes it's place?
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Lipo
 
I have a couple of photos to post later today or tomorrow that I took specifically for you using K20D and K-x + DA 40mm Ltd.
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Dan
 
Thanks Raphael. It took me a couple of months to get the K20D exactly where I wanted it, and I image I can do basically the same with the Kx. It actually has enough resolution for my needs, so if I can get it to render the way I want, I may get it as a backup. It's half the price of a K7 or another K20D, which is hard to find and seems to be holding its value better than most discontinued cameras.
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In the end, the only things that matter are the people we help and the people we hurt. http://pa.photoshelter.com/user/ronkruger
 
Are the photos on your website using the on-camera settings only, or are you doing post processing? It seems you are going for a kind of film-like look.
 
The photos on my website don't have a lot of PP. The look, which is something I experimented for some time to achieve, is my attempt to match the richness I once got from Kodachrome. It is a combination of lenses, light, exposure compensations (shooting slightly to the left) and in-camera settings (K20D).

I don't like the plastic look of Canon and Nikon. That's why I switched from decades of shooting Nikons to Pentax a couple of years ago.

The main reasons for this thread, is the look of the Kx, to my eye, comes real close to the plastic digital standard of the day. Most must like that, but not I.

I don't want my images to be an exact snapshot of reality and illuminate the shadows beyond what my eye actually sees--I want them to enhance reality.
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In the end, the only things that matter are the people we help and the people we hurt. http://pa.photoshelter.com/user/ronkruger
 
Ron Kruger said:
That's what I'm talking about, Dan. Really appreciate the special effort. Above and beyond...

If you haven't already taken these shots, please use 100 or 200 ISO for comparisions.
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Here they are, shot at ISO 200 and f2.8 in Av mode (it was a gloomy day and I wanted to keep the shutter times up). Both cameras set for Matrix metering and Portrait image tone. The crops are 100% from the original jpeg. http://picasaweb.google.ca/bonhommed/KXK20D#

You'll note both cameras blew out the birds in Scene 2, but the K-x was more pushed. The K-x meters brighter on a regular basis in Matrix mode. I don't like this, so I usually use CW. This tendency to push the exposure alone makes the K20D files look more appealing to me. Sure, I can adjust the exposure with metering and Ev, but I can trust the K20. The K-x is less consistent.

Anyway Ron, I can send you some raw files if you like. Just PM me your email address.

PS Love your photos.
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Dan
 
Thank you so much, Dan. That's exactly what I wanted to see. The Kx really holds up quite well on the 100 percent crops, and I'm confident the resolution will be adaquate for my needs.

It does, however, produce a much flatter image than the K20D (or K10D, or even my Optio W80), but I'm also fairly confident I can fix that in the Custom Settings menues. Looks like mostly a problem with color sat and contrast. By the time I also run it through PP to adjust the gama and hue, it'll work fine.

A lot of people complain that Pentax doesn't preform as well as the others for high ISO, but I'm beginning to believe that the same flatter, more washed look is the price for that. The Pentax colors and quality lenses were the main reasons I switched from Nikon. I sure hope this Kx look isn't a sign of the future. To me, Pentax rendering is their biggest edge on the competition.

I thank you, and others, for their help with this. I still haven't decided to buy one, but I'm closer to it now.
Waiting to see images (from new owners) from the K5's new sensor.
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In the end, the only things that matter are the people we help and the people we hurt. http://pa.photoshelter.com/user/ronkruger
 
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