S95 Settings?

Hi Paul, I ordered the s95 yesterday and then canceled when I read somewhere this cam could only do up to 800 iso. I take the same kind of pics you describe , lots of them (and flower pics). If I can get as good a pic indoors as my f31, in low light with this cam, then I'm putting that order back in. You seem to be the only person discussing this cam the way I use one, lots of low lights of people opening presents, especially. Can I get as good a pic as this with the s95, if so, I'm putting my order back in:
Thanks so much,
Rita
Hi Rita. Where did you read the S95 can only go up to ISO800? Even Paul mentions ISO1600 in his post.

And yes, you can get as good as your pic. I too have a F31FD and my S90 is much better for low light, non flash shots like yours.

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Dave.

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Hi Dave! Bless you! I cannot find that post now, but it totally discouraged me. It may not have even been on this forum, because I searched for it this morning. I read all around several places. There is a worse review on Amazon that claims the s95 gets grainy at iso 200, which I knew was not true.

And the post that discouraged me did not say you could not take an iso 1600 photo but that the low light pics at 1600 were not good.

I still love my F31, but I need IS. I have a chronic disease, and I am increasingly shaking pics because of a very slight hand tremor I have off and on at times. It's good to hear that the s95 takes even better pics than the f31 because I love my f31 and I will be please if the s95 does just as well, delighted even. I really will love the small size so I can take it in my purse all the time.

Thanks so much for replying. I really had my heart set on this cam and now I am going to get it. :)

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Rita
 
Hi Dave! Bless you! I cannot find that post now, but it totally discouraged me. It may not have even been on this forum, because I searched for it this morning. I read all around several places. There is a worse review on Amazon that claims the s95 gets grainy at iso 200, which I knew was not true.

And the post that discouraged me did not say you could not take an iso 1600 photo but that the low light pics at 1600 were not good.

I still love my F31, but I need IS. I have a chronic disease, and I am increasingly shaking pics because of a very slight hand tremor I have off and on at times. It's good to hear that the s95 takes even better pics than the f31 because I love my f31 and I will be please if the s95 does just as well, delighted even. I really will love the small size so I can take it in my purse all the time.

Thanks so much for replying. I really had my heart set on this cam and now I am going to get it. :)

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Rita
Hi Rita.

Im sorry to hear about your disease.

You will get much better shots with the Canon. Having IS sounds like it will really help you get steady shots.

The Max ISO800 reference might have been reference to the auto ISO not going above 800. Thats true for the S90 but not for the S95 i believe. There may be some other limitation but yo ucan certainly shoot at ISO1600 with both cameras.

You will always get grain from these compacts but unless your viewing them at 100% and have under exposed its really not a problem for most people, at least up to ISO800.

Ive found my S90 produces cleaner images than my Fuji, no question about that. But having a faster lens and IS will allow you to keep the ISO down abit and still get sharp images and that of course helps keep the images even cleaner.

Good luck with you S95.

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Dave.

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S90 Shots @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/sets/72157622647970370/
FZ38 Shots @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/sets/72157623847343904/

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Thanks Dave, knowing the IS will help with my hand tremor as well is very helpful. I had to trash 8 out of 10 flower macros last week because of hand shake and the two I kept were not perfect, so it was a little of a downer. Your reply gives me hope that I can get more joy back into my photography with steady shots. Have a great day, Dave, and thanks again. Rita
Hi Dave! Bless you! I cannot find that post now, but it totally discouraged me. It may not have even been on this forum, because I searched for it this morning. I read all around several places. There is a worse review on Amazon that claims the s95 gets grainy at iso 200, which I knew was not true.

And the post that discouraged me did not say you could not take an iso 1600 photo but that the low light pics at 1600 were not good.

I still love my F31, but I need IS. I have a chronic disease, and I am increasingly shaking pics because of a very slight hand tremor I have off and on at times. It's good to hear that the s95 takes even better pics than the f31 because I love my f31 and I will be please if the s95 does just as well, delighted even. I really will love the small size so I can take it in my purse all the time.

Thanks so much for replying. I really had my heart set on this cam and now I am going to get it. :)

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Rita
Hi Rita.

Im sorry to hear about your disease.

You will get much better shots with the Canon. Having IS sounds like it will really help you get steady shots.

The Max ISO800 reference might have been reference to the auto ISO not going above 800. Thats true for the S90 but not for the S95 i believe. There may be some other limitation but yo ucan certainly shoot at ISO1600 with both cameras.

You will always get grain from these compacts but unless your viewing them at 100% and have under exposed its really not a problem for most people, at least up to ISO800.

Ive found my S90 produces cleaner images than my Fuji, no question about that. But having a faster lens and IS will allow you to keep the ISO down abit and still get sharp images and that of course helps keep the images even cleaner.

Good luck with you S95.

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Dave.

Gallery @
http://davepearce.smugmug.com
S90 Shots @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/sets/72157622647970370/
FZ38 Shots @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/sets/72157623847343904/

Videos @ http://www.vimeo.com/user464364/videos
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Rita
 
Thanks Dave, knowing the IS will help with my hand tremor as well is very helpful. I had to trash 8 out of 10 flower macros last week because of hand shake and the two I kept were not perfect, so it was a little of a downer. Your reply gives me hope that I can get more joy back into my photography with steady shots. Have a great day, Dave, and thanks again. Rita
Hi Rita.

Your very welcome.

The S95 has a new type of IS to help with macros. I'm not sure how effective it is, im sure Paul will know, but just a suggestion, why not get one of those small bendy tripods. I find these are great for close up work if working on a table etc.

whatever you go for im sure it will work out better than the Fuji for this type of shot.

Have a great day yourself.

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Dave.

Gallery @
http://davepearce.smugmug.com
S90 Shots @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/sets/72157622647970370/
FZ38 Shots @ http://www.flickr.com/photos/davebass5/sets/72157623847343904/

Videos @ http://www.vimeo.com/user464364/videos
 
Hi Paul, I ordered the s95 yesterday and then canceled when I read somewhere this cam could only do up to 800 iso. I take the same kind of pics you describe , lots of them (and flower pics). If I can get as good a pic indoors as my f31, in low light with this cam, then I'm putting that order back in. You seem to be the only person discussing this cam the way I use one, lots of low lights of people opening presents, especially. Can I get as good a pic as this with the s95, if so, I'm putting my order back in:



Thanks so much,
Rita
Hi Rita,

If you could get that shot with the f31fd, I have no doubt that you could get it with the s95. There has been some debate over whether the s90 (and the s95 is the same or slightly better) truly had better high iso performance or whether it was the same, but there's no doubt that the s90 has a lens that's a full stop better in low light, so even if the high iso performance is identical it's still going to be better at it.

I'm a slight bit puzzled, as you said that that picture was taken at 1/60, but the exif data on the picture says 1/30. But with the s90 you would be able to take that picture at either a stop better iso (iso800 rather than iso1600), or a stop better shutter speed (1/60 rather than 1/30).

As I may have mentioned elsewhere, I still feel that the s95 is still about a "stop" short of being able to consistently taking pictures in typical indoor lighting at iso800, which I would prefer, but if you're getting the shots you want with the f31 I have no doubt you'll be able to get those shots plus some new ones with the s95 as well. (And no camera short of micro four/thirds or a dslr have any better low light performance.)

The iso800 max setting may have come from the fact that on the s90 iso1600 was the max in P and AUTO mode, while in TV and A mode the max was iso800. You could still push it if you shot in RAW, then increase the RAW brightness afterwards, but that's besides the point as the s95 lets the iso go up to iso1600 in all modes (or you can set the max iso to be less than that, but obviously that's not a concern of yours).

I'm sure the s90 is "grainy at iso200" - compared to a digital slr , lol. There's always some dslr snob who blows the picture up to 100% and complains about any sort of noise whatsoever, no matter how subtle. However, compared to an f31 , noise will be better or the same. Those people are like the people who complain that their Toyota Camry doesn't corner with the precision of a Formula 1 Sports Car. In reality, you're not driving a race on a track, and the steering is great for driving to the supermarket.

I've posted this before, and at the risk of other people being really sick of seeing it, here's a picture from my s90 at iso800 -





At any size you can see it at on dpreview by clicking on it (you can click on it twice to make it larger), it's a fantastic picture. If you actually click the "original" link and view it at 100% magnification, you'll see that there's more noise in the picture - noise you can't even see at screen size.

Now that you mentioned your shaky hands, I do want to mention one thing though. The s90 was pretty slipper to hold onto, and the s95 is far better. However - it's still not an entirely ergonomic camera. I looked up a picture of the f31, and I don't believe it would be any worse than the f31 or anything - the f31 doesn't look particularly ergonomic, either.

But if you're carrying the camera in your purse (rather than the jeans pocket, where the difference in size is much more noticeable), you might also consider a Panasonic LX5. People claim that it is more ergonomic and easier to hold onto, though sometimes these claims are overblown - I cannot say as when I was looking at it's predecessor the LX3 I was only concerned about whether it would fit in my jeans pocket (which it does not, at least not very well). But that's what people keep saying - I might encourage you to go to a camera store and try holding onto one to see which you like better.

The LX5 has roughly the same high iso performance that the s95 does (people debate it on and on and on, but that plus the comparisons I've seen says to me that they're the same).

The LX5 also

+ Has the same lens rating in low light as the s95 when you don't zoom, but a better lens for low light after you start zooming

+ Supposedly is more ergonomic and easier to hold onto
  • Has a physical lens cap, which (unlike the s95) requires you to physically take it off and put it back on when you turn the camera on and off (I've heard you can get some sort of accessory to get around this, but I don't know much about it)
  • I've read several times that you have to half-press the shutter button to get a live exposure preview - in other words, "how bright is the picture going to be when I take the pics". Unlike the s95 which does this automatically, all the time you have the camera on.
Hope this helps. If you have any other questions, let me know. Good luck!
 
Hi Paul,

Thank you so very much for your detailed reply and the photo example! I don't think I said my photo was at 1/30 because I didn't even know that. I did read one of your posts that I have saved to a text file, and I will be making sure my setting on the s95 is no less than 1/60, in low light, to prevent blur.

The f31 is not at all ergonomic, but I do not think that contributes to the camera shake because my pics with it in 2007 were great. The slight tremor I have is new, and it's not all the time. But, I am going to Best Buy in a few minutes and physically hold the s95. I had already been in and checked out the s90, and it did not seem to be hard for me to hold, and I have read that the s95 has a more tactile finish and should help.

I know about the Lx5, but I love Canon color, and all the pics I am seeing with the s95 are very pleasing to my eyes.

Thanks for the offer to help if I have other questions, which is a kind offer that I appreciate very much.

Now off to Best Buy. :)

Rita
 
Nice "settings" . Now we're talking, I mean, dinning fine ;)
Nice pic

Cheers

Ed
 
Hi Rita,

There is a "grip" for the S90 that also applies to S95 from Richard Franiec. You can find more info about it here at Canon forum. It seems to work really fine, it helps with the ergonomic aspect of it in case you may feel we need extra "support-grip"on your S95. Hope you enjoy it.

Cheers

Ed
 
I apologize for hijacking the thread, Ed. Thank you for being so nice about it. :)))))
Nice "settings" . Now we're talking, I mean, dinning fine ;)
Nice pic

Cheers

Ed
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Rita
 
Exact same settings I use for great JPG's out of the camera on the s95 -- those are basically the same settings I used on the S90, and on all previous canon cameras since the G9... For the best JPG's you have to increase contrast and sharpening...colors are up to the eye of the beholder. I happen to love bright colors not neutral ones, so I always up the saturation a bit.
 
Is there any way of shortening this time to 1 second?
Nope, might as well leave it off....... by the time you took the shot and looked at the LCD it would be gone........

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Hank

 
Good info.
I transferred over the preferences from my S90 but have not had it long enough to determine if they are appropriate for the S95.

Here are my settings from the S90:

• Shooting mode - Av (saved as C)
• Auto Focus Frame - Center, Normal
• Metering - Evaluative
• Image Stabilization - Shoot Only
• Sensitivity - AUTO (or as low as possible)
• Exposure Compensation - -1/3
• Control ring - Av
• Shortcut button - Face Select
• iContrast - OFF
• Custom colors - Contrast+1, Sharpness+2, Saturation+1, Red-1
• Flash - OFF
• Auto focus assist lamp - ON
• Red-eye mode - OFF
• White balance - AUTO
• Digital Zoom - OFF
• LCD Review – 2 Seconds

What settings are you using for your S95?

Your recommendations and comments are much appreciated!
 
"Custom colors - Contrast+1, Sharpness+2, Saturation+1, Red-1"
I personally don't like to increase contrast/sharpness/saturation since it will destroy detail (clip highlights) and adds artifacts and it's easy to add it later on in PP. But if you don't want to deal with PP and like these settings personally then it's fine but I wouldn't recommend this as a general setting.
 
Do you typically go with the defaults then?
"Custom colors - Contrast+1, Sharpness+2, Saturation+1, Red-1"
I personally don't like to increase contrast/sharpness/saturation since it will destroy detail (clip highlights) and adds artifacts and it's easy to add it later on in PP. But if you don't want to deal with PP and like these settings personally then it's fine but I wouldn't recommend this as a general setting.
 
"Custom colors - Contrast+1, Sharpness+2, Saturation+1, Red-1"
I personally don't like to increase contrast/sharpness/saturation since it will destroy detail (clip highlights) and adds artifacts and it's easy to add it later on in PP. But if you don't want to deal with PP and like these settings personally then it's fine but I wouldn't recommend this as a general setting.
Thanks Lucien, I have yet to do any post processing and these settings seem to be working fine so far on my S95.

As a side note I'd be curious to know what percentage of people here use PP. Any idea?
 
How do you increase contrast and sharpening in the camera?

I am trying to take some pictures indoors of my son, but they are very soft compared to the fuji f200 i have been comparing it against.

I also notice an orange hue sometimes when i take a picture... i dont know how to correct it, or why i am getting it.

I am not a professional, or even close. I basically use a lot of the preset functions on the camera, especially in trying to catch my baby, i dont have t ime to sit and play with multiple buttons. I need some good preset conditions to flip to. the f 200 has a sports button to catch fast moving subjects, but the canon does not seem to have this. (it has a kids and pets button, but that is not nearly as good as the sports button).

I think if i could get the canon's skin color corrected, and it to be a little sharper (show more detail, like the fuji), and figure out how to take fast moving subjects without the flash (the flash blows everything out!), i wouldlike to keep this camera. Do you have any advice?
 
How do you increase contrast and sharpening in the camera?

I am trying to take some pictures indoors of my son, but they are very soft compared to the fuji f200 i have been comparing it against.
If you're shooting jpg, press "FUNC. SET" (button in middle of the dial on the back), go to "My Colors" (it may be a bell symbol with the word "Off" in the menu"), press Left to go to "Custom Color", and press the DISP. button. From there you can switch between custom settings for Contrast, Sharpness, Saturation, Red, Green - etc etc.

If you're shooting RAW you have to set this kind of stuff afterwards unfortunately. On the other hand, from what I've seen RAW pictures are just sharper to begin with for whatever reason, so shooting RAW might do the trick if want you want is sharper pictures, to.
I also notice an orange hue sometimes when i take a picture... i dont know how to correct it, or why i am getting it.
1. Check the "White Balance" setting under the menu (the FUNC. SET menu) and make sure it's on auto.

2. Sometimes if iContrast is on (which it is by default), it gives skin tones an orange color..actually, it was on my s90 but I can't find it on my s95. Hmm. In the menu there's a "Reset All" button, you might try that and which would clear any setting you might have set by mistake.
I am not a professional, or even close. I basically use a lot of the preset functions on the camera, especially in trying to catch my baby, i dont have t ime to sit and play with multiple buttons. I need some good preset conditions to flip to. the f 200 has a sports button to catch fast moving subjects, but the canon does not seem to have this. (it has a kids and pets button, but that is not nearly as good as the sports button).
I don't have a "just as easy" response for you, but that's what Shutter Priority mode is for (TV - don't ask me why they didn't name it "S", it's weird). For people standing posed for a picture, 1/60 is the usual. If you're taking pictures outside and want to freeze the action, I would think 1/500 would do it. Probably 1/250 would be fine to.

The camera remembers your last shutter speed setting, so you can just leave it at 1/500 and switch to TV mode for sports. Or you can do Menu-> Up-> Save Settings when you're in Shutter Priority mode, and it will save your current settings to the "C" mode on the dial.

I know you're saying you don't want to have to change stuff, but Shutter Priority mode isn't that difficult, and just requires changing one setting - the shutter speed. Once you decide on what speed works, you can just leave it there.
I think if i could get the canon's skin color corrected, and it to be a little sharper (show more detail, like the fuji), and figure out how to take fast moving subjects without the flash (the flash blows everything out!), i wouldlike to keep this camera. Do you have any advice?
I'm not sure why you're having skin colors problems - like I said, maybe try doing "Reset All" and see if maybe you set something at one time that's causing the problems you're having.

The s95 pictures should definitely be sharper than the Fuji if you're viewing both at the same size.

I wonder why your flash keeps blowing everything out? I've only had that problem once on my s95...if you go into Menu-> Flash Settings-> Flash Exp. Comp, make sure it's set to "0". If you just want a little less flash power, you can set it to a negative value.

Capturing fast moving subjects like kids running around, inside at night, without a flash, is often beyond the abilities of any compact camera. Either you need to add more lighting to your house, or you need a dslr. And even a dslr will require a special lens (a "prime" lens) to get the shot in those conditions.
 

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