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Raist3d said:
you are just playing with fire.

He's right- new lenses weather sealed are needed to really take advantage of this.
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As I've already mentioned, the three Sigma lenses I've used in very wet situations have never failed. Those include both 50-500 models, and a 17-35mm. And that's after five years of use with two of them. The only "damage", if you could call it that, is a few rusty screws.

So, while Sigma may not claim its lenses to be weather-sealed, in actual practice at least three of them may as well be.

'If they're not screaming at you to get out of the way, you're not close enough' http://www.ChuckLantz.com
 
Points to notes before celebrating:)
  • Only when the product is really launched. This is Sigma you are talking, could be years before you get to see one in market.
  • Do not discuss on 46MP not equal to 15MP x 3 thing, it is stale old shoe topic. 46MP or 15MP is effective, don't care.
  • ISO800 to ISO1600 must be as good as Olympus.
  • No more blinkies.
  • Oh did they build that focus assist light.
 
Kendall Helmstetter Gelner said:
Sigma's playing this game of hopscotch for all the marbles it would seem. I don't think I saw any predictions of the SD-1 coming from Sigma...
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It is truly amazing that no one here saw it coming, or even hinted at it. When I first saw the press release a few minutes ago, I quickly checked the calendar to see if it was April 1st.

If Sigma's ability to keep a secret is reflected in the build of the new DP1, it should be a great camera.

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'If they're not screaming at you to get out of the way, you're not close enough' http://www.ChuckLantz.com
 
if the manufacturer doesn't claim it, he doesn't stand behind it. You get them under rain, they fail, you are out of warranty.

I mean it's cool that they have some degree of seal, but you reduce their lifespan or roll the die. Why else mention now the camera does support weather sealing? This is no different from many other brands I have seen similar claims.

If it really is, the manufacturer needs to claim it. Otherwise, it's a dice roll, and this is expensive equipment.

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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'
 
Why make the distinction with their lenses and camera. Surely there's reasons for this?
Chuck Lantz said:
stanislaw stitchanow said:
Also the weathersealing is strange, as with the current Sigma lens line up it is totally useless.
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Why do you say that?

And think very carefully before you reply, since I've already mentioned in a couple of posts about the ability of both the old and new 50-500 Sigma lenses to endure thorough dousing in salt water, with no ill effect.

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'If they're not screaming at you to get out of the way, you're not close enough' http://www.ChuckLantz.com
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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'
 
I m not very interested in the SD1, but I am very excited about the new sensor. I hope they will make a Dp3 camera or something using this sensor and a bit of zoom (24-28mm). Then it would make Fuji and their fans cry :D
 
Raist3d said:
if the manufacturer doesn't claim it, he doesn't stand behind it. You get them under rain, they fail, you are out of warranty.

I mean it's cool that they have some degree of seal, but you reduce their lifespan or roll the die. Why else mention now the camera does support weather sealing? This is no different from many other brands I have seen similar claims.

If it really is, the manufacturer needs to claim it. Otherwise, it's a dice roll, and this is expensive equipment.
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Have you ever had a lens fail due to rain or sea spray?

Here's a simple test: Place your camera and lens on a table and look straight down at it from the top. Where is rain or spray likely to settle and possibly seep in? Water will collect on the surfaces of the camera body, but will roll off the round surface of the lens. That doesn't mean it can't get in, but it makes it less likely.

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'If they're not screaming at you to get out of the way, you're not close enough' http://www.ChuckLantz.com
 
The 50mm 1.4 is naturally top notch lense.

What i'm most interested about are lenses for landscape with the camera.
What would be Sigmas best wide angle lense for this 46-beast?

The new 120-300 2.8 has wheater sealings which sounds nice.

Yeh it's a shame there is no video . Then again Sigma is playing catch up even more so than the likes of Pentax vs Canon in tech regard so no wonder they allways lack the bells and whistles.
 
If they won't screw the operations speed - it will be the best APS-C camera on the market. At least: In terms of picture quality.

4MPx Fevon worked roughly as 10MPx bayer, so this.... woh.... I just can't imagine how great the picture quality will be!
Photato said:
The only downer is No video, no even VGA :(
How about ISOs ?
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No video? Who cares? We are photographers.

High ISO? 99% of my photos are below ISO400. So I don't really care if the ISO 100 will have outstanding picture quality (and there's immerse chance it will have.)
 
Mate. The cpus can allway be made even with power problems. Full-frame foveon would be something so spectacular.

Two future Sigma Cameras are needed

Full-frame 46-mpix - for stills

2K resolution fullframe foveon that shoots Full-HD video at staggering 100Mbit datarate or something.

if sigma did those two .. naturally with wheater seals and all that. They would be n.1
 
Raist3d said:
Why make the distinction with their lenses and camera. Surely there's reasons for this?
Chuck Lantz said:
stanislaw stitchanow said:
Also the weathersealing is strange, as with the current Sigma lens line up it is totally useless.
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Why do you say that?

And think very carefully before you reply, since I've already mentioned in a couple of posts about the ability of both the old and new 50-500 Sigma lenses to endure thorough dousing in salt water, with no ill effect.
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If you are asking if I've ever had one of my Sigma camera bodies fail due to water, the answer is "no", ...and that includes the SD9, SD14 and SD15.

And this may be a good time to post a couple of photos of my "office", ... two of them, actually. The front/top boat is the luxury model, with a cabin where we can hide and dry out between shots. The smaller open boat has no protection from spray, so you, and your camera are always wet. You shoot from the bow, stern and both sides when stopped or underway. The water is exceptionally flat in both these examples, but you can see that spray is always an issue. When shooting an ocean race, the spray turns into waves.

And all three camera models I mentioned have lived through this exposure, the SD9 for over four years, the SD14 for two years. I'm not trying to be a wise-ass, but I will defend a product that I've used if my experiences are contrary to what others might claim.

Any more questions? ;)









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'If they're not screaming at you to get out of the way, you're not close enough' http://www.ChuckLantz.com
 
This morning a very bouncy and exciting Bob woke me up with GREAT news. OMG, I was waiting for the camera like SD1 for sooooo long. As we are still shooting our most important projects with Sigma this new camera will be a blessing. I am also so happy that SD1 is a real PHOTOcamera without all those bells and whistles like video or live-view. Well done Sigma! My dreams are starting coming true! I am so excited and can not wait to give a good testing for SD1 in the studio and in the field.

By the way, we will be at Photokina the complete Thursday. It would be cool to meet some of the old friends and get to know new ones. You can reach us under my mobile number +49(0)1636390259. See you in Köln!

Olga
V-studio

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Just connect your camera to your heart and you will get The Picture!
 
LOL

I think the only thing that will really shock is the price and the file sizes! ;-)

And possibly delivery times....will it be available in 1 month? 1 yr....2 yrs? Going on past record...anyones guess! :D

"Coming Soon" in Sigma's terms on reference is flexible..
 
really a great suprise - this was unexpected and hope it is as great as it sounds.
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common sense is anything but common
 
If you live in the South West of the UK weathersealing is brilliant as it is so changewable. i went with Pentax because of this and NOW they make a weatherproof kit lens as well as others ... i am sure Sigma will do the same

So good to see innovation from Sigma and Fuji
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Tom Bell
Dartmoor
Devon

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Look at the reflection of the matte screen!

Olympus E-3/E-5 AF modul in the Sigma SD1? (specification is the same, 11 AF point, double cross sensors)

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Don't get me wrong. I'm thrilled at the launch of Fuji X100. It's my dreamed camera. But in terms of significance to photography, it's no where near SD1, though on specs only for now. It's nothing short of miracle that it can be made.

But then it's just my own opinion, of course, and so really doesn't matter.
Raist3d said:
I am afraid you are too caught up in tech spec sheets and not in photography.

The X100 seems so far a great photographic tool. Great interface, features well thought out. We know it's coming on 2011. We don't know when the SD1 is coming out and what bugs or what quirks it will have given Sigma's history.

Both cameras are at different markets- the X100 being near pocketable. The SD1 is a DSLR. Buying an SD1 doesn't take away the need for those who wanted an X100. And it could be said vice versa.

For street life the SD1 may not be as good of a match as the X100, just like the X100 won't hold a candle to an SD1 for landscapes.

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Raist3d (Photographer & Tools/Systems/Gui Games Developer)
Andreas Feininger (1906-1999) 'Photographers — idiots, of which there are
so many — say, “Oh, if only I had a Nikon or a Leica, I could make great
photographs.” That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard in my life. It’s
nothing but a matter of seeing, and thinking, and interest. That’s what
makes a good photograph.'
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Maple
 
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