It depends what you mean by 'basic exposure theory', but if by it you mean the necessity to select an exposure that maps the scene brightness to specific parts of the densiometric curve of the film you have loaded, then Barry is right.Basic exposure theory is out of date ?
Thanks for that "insight" Barry.
Whether you take it lightly or not is irrelevant. Taken individually there's nothing wrong with using the name Tyrone, but used in juxtaposition with "Wellhung" shows either disingenuousness or extreme naivety/stupidity. I don't think that you're stupid. I notice that you didn't include the quoted photos, including the cover of the book "Deconstructing Tyrone". No, not stupid at all. Just shrewd.
Productive + informative posts can come from otherwise disruptive + petty posters (not that I'm calling you that; just saying that whatever value you added was canceled out by your participation in the bickering). I don't know where you are but I am getting ready to head out to a nice party soon. The weather here is beautiful. You guys should re-evaluate the value of winning an "internet battle" on what might be one of the nicest + last days of the summer.......
Could the way the name is perceived be culturally influenced a search on Google UK will result in a huge amount of hits relating to the Northern Irish town of the same name. And I can honestly say that I have never heard the name used as a racist taunt , my first thought was of a daft white character in a popular soap { I spend too much time watching TV with my Mum when I pop over to see her
} . I am not saying that this is definitely the case, but perhaps worth thinking about before firing out accusations of racism. I have seen no indication of racism in Tyrone’s posts but there have indeed been what I would perceive as racist postings made by other posters in other forums.
It isn't at all. To make unjustified accusations based on one's own prejudices is a highly offensive thing to do.
You mean people who don't, like you, associate the name 'Tyrone' with black people are naive or stupid?
Again, you are constructing motivations from your own prejudiced mindset. This discussion is revealing much more about your prejudices than it is mine.
You can't be serious can you? Taking anything up with them using PM, email or whatever is guaranteed to be just as futile as in the thread. I haven't resorted to the insults and attacks used by the other side, despite their accusations of same. Referring to them as "them" is also amusing, especially after the admissions of using multiple names, aka "sock puppets". Who has a history of being permanently banned? Not I.
Initially just my surprise at seeing the appearance of one of the sock puppets not only appear, but also finally publicly admit the multiple login names. It also served a purpose in notifying anyone not familiar with him/them that the appearance usually signifies that the thread will soon be highjacked, changed into a discussion of the sock puppet's perennial pet topic, equivalence, DOF, noise, etc. Whether I mentioned this or not, it's what usually happens with this crew. Pointing it out apparently isn't appreciated and causes great overreactions, mud-slinging and other types of insults.
I would have preferred your two bits, inflation ya know . . .
You're right, there is a cultural element to it and almost anyone that has lived for an extended time in the USA is probably well aware of it. I also haven't seen "Tyrone" making any racist postings and for all I know he isn't a racist. But despite the denials, he must be aware of the racial/racist significance of the name, and probably chose it because he thought it would be amusingly provocative, as the other sock puppet names tend to be. To go so far as to deny the 'puns' behind the choice of word pairs used for the names is denial for its own sake, completely unbelievable.Could the way the name is perceived be culturally influenced a search on Google UK will result in a huge amount of hits relating to the Northern Irish town of the same name. And I can honestly say that I have never heard the name used as a racist taunt , my first thought was of a daft white character in a popular soap { I spend too much time watching TV with my Mum when I pop over to see her
Jim, I think you've hit the nail on the head. He's American and I'm not. He probably sees the name 'Tyrone' in a different cultural context, and makes assumptions on my motives based on that. If this nick causes black people any offence, I will do my best to change it, so far as DPR will allow. (I'm not really to concerned about offence caused to prudes, but that's a difernt matter).Could the way the name is perceived be culturally influenced a search on Google UK will result in a huge amount of hits relating to the Northern Irish town of the same name. And I can honestly say that I have never heard the name used as a racist taunt , my first thought was of a daft white character in a popular soap { I spend too much time watching TV with my Mum when I pop over to see her
It's this statement that shows stupidity. I don't associate the name Tyrone exclusively with black men and am quite familiar with all of the "white" Tyrones that you mentioned. To deny that "Tyrone" isn't often used as a black stereotype is naive and stupid. As I wrote, using it alone wouldn't be a problem. If you chose "Tyrone O'Malley" or "Tyrone The Invincible" or "Tyrone Tyrone" or "Tyrone Chevalier" nobody would have objected. But choosing "Tyrone Wellhung" is another matter, and shows more than insensitivity. Despite your denials, it's intentionally provocative.
More empty denials. Why do you think that "Tyrone" was chosen for the title of the book? Just coincidence? Hardly. Were the authors also prejudiced or did they have a reason for using "Tyrone". Methinks the gentleman doth protest too much.
Possibly but still unlikely. I've mentioned the racist implications several times to you in the past several months and you never asked what I was talking about, and the way you've dismissed and/or ignored the "Tyrone" examples I've shown is also telling. You have little credibility.Jim, I think you've hit the nail on the head. He's American and I'm not. He probably sees the name 'Tyrone' in a different cultural context, and makes assumptions on my motives based on that. If this nick causes black people any offence, I will do my best to change it, so far as DPR will allow. (I'm not really to concerned about offence caused to prudes, but that's a difernt matter).Could the way the name is perceived be culturally influenced a search on Google UK will result in a huge amount of hits relating to the Northern Irish town of the same name. And I can honestly say that I have never heard the name used as a racist taunt , my first thought was of a daft white character in a popular soap { I spend too much time watching TV with my Mum when I pop over to see her
As I remember, in a previous instance of one of your attacks, I suggested you take the matter up in a pm if you had differences, and you declined rather rudely. The point is that you want to have these fights in public, because your goal is to discredit those you disagree with.
You are a liar. That is not an insult, it is a matter of fact. You claim not to resort to insults and attacks yet you are one of the most insulting posters around here.
You are also misinformed, as I said somewhere above, and repeatedly say, I am not GB. You were told that at length by Joseph Wisniewski, and still you continue to imply it.
It was a very good question. Just why are you so obsessive about these poeple (who you seem to imagine to be one) that you will join threads just to attack them? 'Notifying anyone not familiar with him/them that the appearance usually signifies that the thread will soon be highjacked' is kind of a self fulfilling prophesy when it's you doing the hijacking.
Who is GB? As I recall, Joe referred to someone known as "Bob" but didn't provide any additional identification.
A "theory" only intended to extend your attacks/insults. If you think that we had any contact in the forums it should be easy to track down, but I'm afraid that it will be a waste of time. I'm not aware of ever communicating with him before he was banned. I did read a few of his posts but didn't hang out in his forums. At the time I thought that what he wrote was slightly interesting but he didn't write well enough to make it worth following and wasn't aware at the time that he was so divisive. In fact I had a slightly positive feeling towards him because of his name. I've long been fond of the name from a memory of Joemama, who made records in the 60's. Joe (the other one) may even be familiar with him. Considering his most recent title you might like him too. Here's the real deal :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Besser
Why would I ask what you're talking about when it was very clear you were just hurling insults, as you always do. Based on your previous exchanges I have no reason to believe that there are any limits in how low you'd stoop to try and discredit people you're waging your vendetta against.Possibly but still unlikely. I've mentioned the racist implications several times to you in the past several months and you never asked what I was talking about, and the way you've dismissed and/or ignored the "Tyrone" examples I've shown is also telling. You have little credibility.Jim, I think you've hit the nail on the head. He's American and I'm not. He probably sees the name 'Tyrone' in a different cultural context, and makes assumptions on my motives based on that. If this nick causes black people any offence, I will do my best to change it, so far as DPR will allow. (I'm not really to concerned about offence caused to prudes, but that's a difernt matter).Could the way the name is perceived be culturally influenced a search on Google UK will result in a huge amount of hits relating to the Northern Irish town of the same name. And I can honestly say that I have never heard the name used as a racist taunt , my first thought was of a daft white character in a popular soap { I spend too much time watching TV with my Mum when I pop over to see her
I am unaware of that use (if it exists outside your head). Jim was unaware of that use. Americans I have been in contact with are unaware of that use.
It shows that you are making connections which are unintended. As I said, I am not American, there is no reason for me to associate the name with the same things that you do. You assume so only because it suits your campaign of denigration.
I'm not aware of the book, so I'm not aware of their motivations. This is something you obviously think of all the time, an association strong in your mind, but not in mine. What I find strange is that this is brought up in the context only of making an attack on me. If there is an issue, a simple pm or email explaining what you perceived the problem to be would have fixed it. Strange you've never done that. Strange also that no American (of a friendly persuasion) has raised the issue, if it's so obvious.
This is bizarre. This only backs up what I wrote and it will be even clearer to anyone that takes the trouble to follow the link. Here's just the part of that reply that immediately follows your quote.
Yes, he is. Isn't he? I could respect that hadn't he taken it to obsessive levels.
Nah, all the thing screams of a medium sized fish accustomed to small bowls that cannot stand bigger especimens. That will explain his fixation on the endowment of African American males.
You argue like some lawyers (in court) that I've known. Choosing words that may sound logical and true but are intended to deceive. It's their job, they're paid well to do it, and everyone, including judges recognize and tolerate it. It's also interesting (not "strange") that nobody called me on it, saying that the juxtaposition of "Tyrone" and "Wellhung" was innocuous and probably unintentional. I didn't think that you were aware of the book, which is why I showed the cover photo. This isn't about the author's motivations but why they chose to use the name Tyrone. I can understand its significance being unfamiliar to those in the UK, but it's certainly familiar to some. You can keep pretending to not know why "Tyrone Wellhung" might be offensive to many people, but you can no longer pretend to be unaware. It's especially significant today :
Great Bustard
[snip a whole load of stuff intended to portray billx08 as a culturally aware well adjusted human being]
All right, all right, but did they eventually get the restraining order?
And that is the biggest load of politicians twaddle I've seen for a long time, especially the use of the image at the end, designed to put yourself on the side of good and portray me as an opponent of everything that he stood for. That is as big a lie as anything you have said, and just shows how low you will go. It shows just how unhinged you are that you'd resort to that kind of tactic to win a web forum war on a photographic forum . You have big issues.You argue like some lawyers (in court) that I've known. Choosing words that may sound logical and true but are intended to deceive. It's their job, they're paid well to do it, and everyone, including judges recognize and tolerate it. It's also interesting (not "strange") that nobody called me on it, saying that the juxtaposition of "Tyrone" and "Wellhung" was innocuous and probably unintentional. I didn't think that you were aware of the book, which is why I showed the cover photo. This isn't about the author's motivations but why they chose to use the name Tyrone. I can understand its significance being unfamiliar to those in the UK, but it's certainly familiar to some. You can keep pretending to not know why "Tyrone Wellhung" might be offensive to many people, but you can no longer pretend to be unaware. It's especially significant today :
http://newstalgia.crooksandliars.com/gordonskene/lest-we-forget-august-28-1963-martin-l
