Only 36mm for the SD4500 IS -- too bad

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Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that the smallest super zoom ever made by Cannon or anyone else, the new SD4500 IS begins at 36mm. I was going to get this camera but that 36mm isn't going to make it for me. It closes down my options for wide closeup shots whcih I take a lot of. I really need a minimum of 28mm. Too bad. Seems like a great super compact camera with strong low-light praise. There's always something off.
 
Actually, the 36 to 360 range suits my needs more than 28-280.

If the lens is good (ie. no CA) then I might consider it once the price drops to 300 bucks or something. I have the wide angle covered by another camera.
 
Yes, it's shame. I wouldn't buy a camera without at least a 28mm wide angle, and I'd prefer it to be wider. 28–280 would've been much nicer. 24–240 nicer still.

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I think that it is too early on to draw and real conclusions about the SD-4500. A professional review would be an excellent step forward in know more about the capabilities of the SD-4500.
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This isn't really something you care about, but anyway the specs of the SD4500/IXUS1000 are actually really close to the SD890/IXUS970 that I have (HD video the 360mm lens are obviously new). It has some trouble taking pictures of moving people inside, but it mostly works. I would say the field of view is rarely a problem.

10MP vs 10MP
1/2.3 CCD vs 1/2.3 CMOS
f3.2-f5.7 vs f3.4-f5.6
37-185 vs 36-360
195g vs 190g
95 x 57 x 27 mm vs 101 x 59 x 22 mm

Who knows, the old CCD might actually take better pictures than the backlit CMOS, and who knows what that prism is going to do to image quality.

That's what 28 months gets you!
 
I'd just shoot a panorama for wider shots. If it's as good as the ZS3, it will sell well.
 
This isn't really something you care about, but anyway the specs of the SD4500/IXUS1000 are actually really close to the SD890/IXUS970 t
I have the sd890 (gave it to my daughter so still get to use it). It's a nice camera but doesn't do well in low light at all.
Who knows, the old CCD might actually take better pictures than the backlit CMOS,
The backlit CMOS sensor on the SD4000 is a BIG improvement in low light compared to the s890 and SD700, which I still own.

However, I suspect that the SD4500 won't do as well in low light because of the minimum aperture szie. Then again, it won't do nearly as well as the SD4500 if you need a longer zoom in decent light.

I think the sd4500 will do better than the 890 overall.

I had to send the sd4000 back because of a lens defect but will probably get it again when the price drops a bit. I've never enjoyed a compact as much as I do the SD4000.

Don't let anyone fool you about the lack of menus and buttons. For most, with a little practice, it's quick and easy to access key settings. Quite intuitive.
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Is this feature similar to the Extra Optical Zoom on the Panasonic cameras, i.e., masking the center part of the image? What effect does it have on image quality?
 
It's too early to tell, but the specs give me hope that this camera will be a better low light performer than the Panasonic ZS3 (or ZS7).

-barry
The ZS3 and ZS7 are terrible low light performers, lagging slightly behind even amongst their similarly spec'd peers - so I think that's a safe bet.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that the smallest super zoom ever made by Cannon or anyone else, the new SD4500 IS begins at 36mm.....
Its debatable, John. The SD4500 is 101 x 59 x 22 mm. The Canon TX1 launched three and a half years ago, with a 39 - 390 mm zoom, was 89 x 60 x 29 mm. So the SD 4500 is a bit smaller, and ticks a few more boxes, but also has a smidgin less zoom, 35 MP/cm^2 vs the TX1’s 29 MP/cm^2, no flip LCD, and a less robust lens cover and overall build. The 39 mm wide angle IS a limitation, but the inbuilt Stitch Assist does help with some subjects.
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Is this feature similar to the Extra Optical Zoom on the Panasonic cameras, i.e., masking the center part of the image? What effect does it have on image quality?
No, I returned the camera before I had a chance to try it. I suspect it's similar of Extra Optical Zoom and that it would work best when shooting subjects relatively close by, like my s90.

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John McCormack wrote: Is this feature similar to the Extra Optical Zoom on the Panasonic cameras, i.e., masking the center part of the image? What effect does it have on image quality?
No, I returned the camera before I had a chance to try it. I suspect it's similar of Extra Optical Zoom and that it would work best when shooting subjects relatively close by, like my s90.
It may be similar to the Enhanced Digital Zoom on the TX1 which is explained at:
http://www.powershot-tx1.com/2007/07/tx1-101-using-enhanced-digital-zoom.html

Launch the comparison page (with the link about halfway down the first page) to see some examples.
Canon UK have posted the user manual for the Ixus 1000 (SD4500 IS) on its website for anyone interested. Go to: http://files.canon-europe.com/files/soft39129/manual/1000HS_CUG_EN.pdf
Thanks for that John. But looking at the illustrations, it seems to me the Ixus 1000 would be difficult to hold without touching some control with your thumb. For something that size, I think the TX1 pistol grip format and mini-control stick may be preferable. Although that format requires a different arrangement for the LCD, which on the TX1 is smaller than on the Ixus 1000. But even a small swivel screen has several advantages over a fixed one, including screen protection when folded against the body. It all boils down to personal preference.

A quick glance at the Ixus 1000 manual implies that its controls are very similar to those of the TX1. However, I notice that the Ixus 1000 can use a TV screen to show the display whilst shooting, which the TX1 cannot. But the Ixus 1000 lacks the stereo sound recording capability of the TX1, which, although not of the very highest concert quality, is nevertheless a handy function for recording lectures or conference speeches, whilst the camera function can be called on to capture PowerPoint displays.
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