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Tyrone Wellhung said:
Old MF Nikkors would only stop down to f/16, while everyone else went to f/22 - Nippon Kogaku's argument was always that they had higher standards.
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An interesting bit of trivia: many of the OM Zuikos also have a minimum parture of f/16.
Tyrone Wellhung said:
Olympus seems to believe its users are up for more than twice the diffraction blur of old Nikon users, and by what is said on these forums, they got it about right.
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The times they are a-changing; f/22 is an excellent aperture for capturing southern hemisphere motorcyclists with E-510s I am told.

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Rikke
 
Rikke Rask said:
Tyrone Wellhung said:
Old MF Nikkors would only stop down to f/16, while everyone else went to f/22 - Nippon Kogaku's argument was always that they had higher standards.
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An interesting bit of trivia: many of the OM Zuikos also have a minimum parture of f/16.
Josefin said:
Olympus seems to believe its users are up for more than twice the diffraction blur of old Nikon users, and by what is said on these forums, they got it about right.
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The times they are a-changing; f/22 is an excellent aperture for capturing southern hemisphere motorcyclists with E-510s I am told.
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It's fine if you only display your pictures 500 pixels across.
 
light_bulb said:
Hardly any pros use full frame for tele action shots.
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A decade ago they basically had to.
light_bulb said:
I do not want a ZD 150 that offers the same DOF as the 300 2,8 on full frame.
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Why are you talking about the 300/2.8? The 300/4 already delivers more than the 150/2.
light_bulb said:
I am interested in speed and image quality at lower cost and bulk combined with a shorter minimum focussing distance.
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10 cm shorter minimum focusing distance. 5 cm shorter than a Nikkor. Heavier, more expensive than the Canon.

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Rikke
 
Rikke Rask said:
Tyrone Wellhung said:
My 300/4 is equivalent to a 64/0.85 on a Canon G11, the 150/2 is equivalent to a 32/0.42 - now that's impressive.
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There is something wrong there. When the 300/4 and the 150/2 are equivalent, surely they will both be equivalent to the same on a G11...
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Well, it is a 150/2. I never said which camera I was fitting it on before I stated the equivalence. Actually I put it on an adapter on a Leica M9.
 
Tyrone Wellhung said:
Of course, we could look at bounding box size, in which case the Zuiko occupies 1500ml while the Canon occupies 1782ml. That's 282ml more, almost exactly half a pint .
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Just wait till I start bitching about discussing the prices of both Zuikos and pints in Sweden.

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Rikke
 
light_bulb said:
Hardly any pros use full frame for tele action shots. Based on your reasoning they must be plain wrong.
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That must come as a surprise to all those photographers with their D3's and D3s's and those looong black lenses I see at most pro sporting events. Almost as many as the ones with the loooong white lenses these days.
 
Tyrone Wellhung said:
Well, it is a 150/2. I never said which camera I was fitting it on before I stated the equivalence. Actually I put it on an adapter on a Leica M9.
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Of course, why didn't I think of that? How do you frame? It only has view finder frames for 28/35/50/75/90/135 mm.

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Rikke
 
Rikke Rask said:
Tyrone Wellhung said:
Well, it is a 150/2. I never said which camera I was fitting it on before I stated the equivalence. Actually I put it on an adapter on a Leica M9.
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Of course, why didn't I think of that? How do you frame? It only has view finder frames for 28/35/50/75/90/135 mm.
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Leicas don't need framing. In fact, they fulfil all their important functions without even being switched on.
 
Rikke Rask said:
Tyrone Wellhung said:
Of course, we could look at bounding box size, in which case the Zuiko occupies 1500ml while the Canon occupies 1782ml. That's 282ml more, almost exactly half a pint .
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Just wait till I start bitching about discussing the prices of both Zuikos and pints in Sweden.
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Canon can help you with both problems:



at least, when you've bought the lens, you don't need to shell out for a glass for your beer.
 
frankjules said:
Had to comment on this: from time to time I read on this forum from some poster, that he/she was told by a canon or nikon shooter that Oly cameras just don't cut it and they should switch to Canon or Nikon. Ok..so be it.

But in the number of years that I have been using Oly DSLR's I have never ever come across anyone who has ever told me I should switch. Folks, it just doesn't happen (in my world anyway). In the same manner, I could never imagine myself telling another photographer what he or should do or have, quite honestly I couldn't care less what gear they have or use, its their world not mine. I can have interesting conversations about photography and gear with other photogs.. but I wouldn't ever think about telling them to do this or that. People can make up their own minds as to what they need and want.

I have yet to meet a photog who is so pretentious or arrogant to suggest that I do not know what I am doing and that my life would be better using something he/she is using. I have however had Canon and Nikon shooters who in fact are fascinated by the fact that I do in fact use Oly gear, not quite sure what to make of my enthusiasm ..but I never get "dissed". I think most Canon/Nikon shooters just figure their stuff is state of art and disregard my participation and just carry on doing whatever...which is perfectly fine by me. I like my gear, enjoy the results, but do anxiously await the next pro offering by Oly.
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there was no OLy pro offering ever before and only one company really long deceiving and cheating its users is Olympus, the E3 is not a pro body , sorry.

and there is only one pro crop cam that is called 1D4.
frankjules said:
Cheers
Frank
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Mike_PEAT said:
frankjules said:
Had to comment on this: from time to time I read on this forum from some poster, that he/she was told by a canon or nikon shooter that Oly cameras just don't cut it and they should switch to Canon or Nikon. Ok..so be it.
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Being a member of a camera club I get this all the time...I always get asked why I'm not using an "N" or "C" brand camera, and they ask it in a way to imply I'm using an inferior camera.
Mike_PEAT said:
But in the number of years that I have been using Oly DSLR's I have never ever come across anyone who has ever told me I should switch.
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OK, none of them have actually told me I should switch (probably because I usually know more about photography than they do), but they still look down on my Oly because I'm not part of either of the two cliques.
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I shoot Canon EOS SLRs and DSLRs and usually have oen or the other nearby while I'm shooting my Olympus DSLR gear. One way I've found to shut therm up is hand them my E30 w/HLD grip and an f/2 lens mounted.

Their surprise at the heft of that combo is always pleasing, that and them disicovering an f/2 zoom in their hands.

" You mean f/2.8 don't you "?

"No, f/2."

" Well I'll be dipped in sh*t said one guy, his face at the news of an f/2 zoom still full of surprise.
" F2; damn! " he continued, cuddling my gear like it wa a newborn.

"We have 3 f/2 lens', two of them zooms".

"Huunh" he said... "and an f/2.8 90-250mm (180-500efl) superzoom " adds me, just to watch their jaws drop to the floor.
 
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