I tested CP-5700 for the first time ZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Since I sold my D7i lately (upgrading to D7Hi) I thought that I am free to check what is available in the market before going straight to Minolta dealer.

So, I picked-up a CP-5700 on display, requested charged battery and a CF. and turned it on. Nothing happened, I thought I missed the on button, then I heared a sound?.., that was the lens expanding!

My sony handycam starts up faster than this one. Then the zoom button press on it ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

I have used D7i for four months and I always read calling it "feels like a toy" will if you asked me, what I held in my hands yesterday is a REAL toy.

BTW, CP5700 is $300 CHEAPER than Minolta where I live. It seems US & EU pricing is based on the brand "Nikon" and not on the camera itself.

Just wanted to share my experience with you.
Heading straight to Minolta dealer!

hmo66 said:

Since I sold my D7i lately (upgrading to D7Hi) I thought that I am
free to check what is available in the market before going straight
to Minolta dealer.

So, I picked-up a CP-5700 on display, requested charged battery and
a CF. and turned it on. Nothing happened, I thought I missed the on
button, then I heared a sound?.., that was the lens expanding!

My sony handycam starts up faster than this one. Then the zoom
button press on it ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

I have used D7i for four months and I always read calling it "feels
like a toy" will if you asked me, what I held in my hands yesterday
is a REAL toy.

BTW, CP5700 is $300 CHEAPER than Minolta where I live. It seems US
& EU pricing is based on the brand "Nikon" and not on the camera
itself.

Just wanted to share my experience with you.
Heading straight to Minolta dealer!

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The 5700 just has to be Nikon thinking 'how do we sell based on our brand name without cutting into our D100 sales?'
Nikon can do better than this.
No lens thread? They jest!
Regards,
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DaveMart

David Martin wrote:
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Member said:

The 5700 just has to be Nikon thinking 'how do we sell based on our
brand name without cutting into our D100 sales?'
Nikon can do better than this.
No lens thread? They jest!

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I think that's a bit too cynical. The CP5700 is a fine camera, after all. I think their thinking must've been more like "How do we make a high-MP big-zoom prosumer that's as small as possible, has a lens good enough for the sensor, and will appeal to the crowd moving up from the CP990's... and doesn't cut into our D100 sales?"

I have a feeling that Nikon's pretty segmented in their approach to the market. They want to sell their "D" series to experienced film photographers moving to digital, and the "CP" series to amateurs and snapshooters moving to digital. And if an amateur or snapshooter happens to buy a "D" camera, or experienced guy a "CP" camera, I'm sure they won't object. This does mean making a clear difference between the product lines: don't expect anything like an E-20 to come from Nikon any time soon. Or a D7Hi, for that matter.

Petteri
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http://www.seittipaja.fi/index/

Petteri Sulonen said:

Petteri Sulonen said:

The 5700 just has to be Nikon thinking 'how do we sell based on our
brand name without cutting into our D100 sales?'
Nikon can do better than this.
No lens thread? They jest!

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I think that's a bit too cynical. The CP5700 is a fine camera,
after all. I think their thinking must've been more like "How do we
make a high-MP big-zoom prosumer that's as small as possible, has a
lens good enough for the sensor, and will appeal to the crowd
moving up from the CP990's... and doesn't cut into our D100 sales?"

I have a feeling that Nikon's pretty segmented in their approach to
the market. They want to sell their "D" series to experienced film
photographers moving to digital, and the "CP" series to amateurs
and snapshooters moving to digital. And if an amateur or
snapshooter happens to buy a "D" camera, or experienced guy a "CP"
camera, I'm sure they won't object. This does mean making a clear
difference between the product lines: don't expect anything like an
E-20 to come from Nikon any time soon. Or a D7Hi, for that matter.

Petteri
--
http://www.seittipaja.fi/index/

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I bet most people who use the 5700 end up doing so without any filter on the lens. Their market approach may be segmented, but if I'd spent that on a camera and ended up scratching the lens I'd be pretty annoyed. you shouldn't have to do the workarounds you do. Not to mention the low-light porformance (or lack of low-light performance)

I think you're a little to generous, Petteri, and I repeat, Nikon could certainly do better than this if they wanted to.

BTW, I'm not a Minolta worshipper, and have great respect for instance for the Sony 717, if only Sony would come out with a decent sized memory stick.
Anyway,
Regards to you and hope to talk to you soon,

--
DaveMart

hmo66 said:

Then the zoom button press on it ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

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You just can't beat a "manual zoom control".

All motorised zooms are a "pain in the proverbial" by comparison.

Top marks for Minolta in this respect!

Could not agree more. Power zoom my be OK for videos but for fine control of composition, give me a manual zoom anytime.

taif1966 said:

My sony handycam starts up faster than this one. Then the zoom
button press on it ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

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that those with motorised zooms are a pain. My mate brings me every new Nikon camera he gets (and he does get them), and couldn't wait to show off his 5700. On and on about how much he paid, how great it was and just could not accept my choice of camera until he saw it.

Hmm he says, that's good innit. How much for batteries?. From 28 to 200, sharp at both ends, just like that. Hmm.

Some buy for what it does, some for a name. I've always had pentax glass and a Chinon CP7M to put it on. They have laughed at me, but not at what came out. So who cares.

It's about the pics produced. Too many think that cash buys a quality pic. A fool and his money, so to speak. I checked them all before laying out my money and (despite the bad experiences I had) went with Minolta.
No regrets.

I don't have any problems with a motorized zoom, as long as it's reasonably smooth (and it is, on the Nikon CP9xx camera). The Canon G1, on the other hand, has a terrible motorized zoom; it seems to "jump" on steps.

The feature I would really like is true mechanical manual focus . The motorized focus on the D7 simply drives me crazy.

Mark H said:

hmo66 said:

Then the zoom button press on it ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

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You just can't beat a "manual zoom control".

All motorised zooms are a "pain in the proverbial" by comparison.

Top marks for Minolta in this respect!

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My Nikon 5700 takes amazing pictures - but I hear no better than the 7I or 7HI. Nevertheless, I'm sort of dissapointed with its slow autofocus.

I mean, it is sloooooow!

I just applied for an RMA from Insight and I'm thinking of either a D100 (a lot of money) or a 7HI. I don't like the fact that the D100 has a 1.5 focal-length multiplier. I like a wide angle.

I must confess I went for the brand name! I guessed I couldnt go wrong with a Nikon.

Now, I still own a Maxxum 7xi which has a fabulous auto focus. As a matter of fact, I think Minolta's strenght is the autofocus feature of their cameras.

My question is:

Is the autofocusing of the Dimage 7I or 7HI any better than the Nikon 5700?

Anybody tried both?

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kd

hmo66 said:

Since I sold my D7i lately (upgrading to D7Hi) I thought that I am
free to check what is available in the market before going straight
to Minolta dealer.

So, I picked-up a CP-5700 on display, requested charged battery and
a CF. and turned it on. Nothing happened, I thought I missed the on
button, then I heared a sound?.., that was the lens expanding!

My sony handycam starts up faster than this one. Then the zoom
button press on it ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.

I have used D7i for four months and I always read calling it "feels
like a toy" will if you asked me, what I held in my hands yesterday
is a REAL toy.

BTW, CP5700 is $300 CHEAPER than Minolta where I live. It seems US
& EU pricing is based on the brand "Nikon" and not on the camera
itself.

Just wanted to share my experience with you.
Heading straight to Minolta dealer!

Click to expand...

--
kd

As an experienced 35mm user I have very few axes to grind with my 5700. Autofocus is only sometimes a problem at full telephoto in very low light. This is understandable with such a powerful zoom lens. NEVER a problem at other settings. This is a small price to pay for its' other strengths. The matrix metering is virtually foolproof, the handling, compact size and looks are a treat (you have to get used to handling but it doesn't take long). As for the results, they are truly excellent and noise has never been a problem. Lastly, YES like many other 5700 owners I do have a UV filter attached. This was no problem courtesy of a 3rd party adapter!