More SD9 samples (copyright Sigma)

Yes, I wouldn't croak of excitement. Look at that picture of the Violin (or picture of a picture)..you can almost feel how old that it is...lines and cracks...god forbid they should take a picture of my face. What you really need is one of those super-sharp 43-86 nikon portrait zooms!
Not terribly impressive, I'm afraid....
 
Hello!
Unfortunately a couple of them (including that one) aren't in focus
/ using enough DOF. Although a couple of the model shots are very
sharp.
Yep. Let's decide to blame the photographer - not the technology. Considering the filesize and x/y resolution of the X3 sensor, these images are impressively sharp.

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anders lundholm · [email protected]
the sphereworx / monoliner experience
 
These samples are not as good as one would expect :-(
Unfortunately a couple of them (including that one) aren't in focus
/ using enough DOF. Although a couple of the model shots are very
sharp.
Yep. Let's decide to blame the photographer - not the technology.
Considering the filesize and x/y resolution of the X3 sensor, these
images are impressively sharp.

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with regards
anders lundholm · [email protected]
the sphereworx / monoliner experience
 
Not terribly impressive, I'm afraid....
and
Yes, I wouldn't croak of excitement. Look at that picture of the
Violin (or picture of a picture)..you can almost feel how old that
it is...lines and cracks...god forbid they should take a picture of
my face. What you really need is one of those super-sharp 43-86
nikon portrait zooms!
um... those images are simply the best images I've ever seen. The color purity is there. It's very film-like despite the yellow cast. There's no way you can duplicate the color purity with a bayer sensor.

And as for jaggies, you know bayer sensors ALWAYS blur the lines (edges) because the bayer algorithms guess the edges based on neighboring pixels. A X3 sensor captures all the details in each pixel, not from neighboring pixels thus the lines of certain angles will appear jagged but it will be virtually invisible if you resize them to a smaller size (thanks to smoothing bilear interpolation) or on print (thanks to tiny dots that are hard to notice unless you're inches away from the print). Jaggies in X3 images appear because they're VERY SHARP!

-jeff
 
Hi,

I have found some new SD9 samples on a german site. Taken during
the Photokina (copyrighted by Sigma) :
How long before models demand the images are softened with sharpness like this. In the past the bayer pattern has taken the edge off fine detail almost like a "soft lens" but now there is no hiding place. As I always say ..print the images out to see the real quality.
Roger
 
For the most part, these images are breathtaking. The clarity in the upper midtones and highlights seems simply outstanding.

Unfortunately, some of the darker areas seem troublesome. Examinng the fingers and shadows of the hand on Bild 2 reveals very high noise levels with red & yellow blotches/posterization, for instance. It's not uniform, because some of the shadow regions look fine, but shadowed skin tones seem particularly affected.

--Stuffy
 
Both JPEG and TIFF files from Sigma Photo Pro contain EXIF headers thus the only conclusion is that they have been output as TIFF, loaded into an old copy of Photoshop or other Photo package and output as JPEG. Newer versions of Photoshop (6.0 and 7.0) both maintain EXIF headers unless you do 'Save for web'.
I have found some new SD9 samples on a german site. Taken during
the Photokina (copyrighted by Sigma) :
Why do so many SD-9 samples come w/o EXIF?

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Erik
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Phil Askey
Editor / Owner, dpreview.com
 
To my now starting to age eyes ( ok I'm 40 ) the foveon sensor without question has huge potential. Whether the SD9 is the camera for me or anyone else may be a different story but to put this in very technical terms and to provide a pixal by pixal scrutnizing review here I will say.. WOW. I can almost pray that the newly announced Pentax camera will use Foveon as well to end the Sigma lens lock in problem. Thanks Andreas for finding this site! Not saying these images are perfect but then find me one that is! very impressive! I think Foveon is on to something special! Just not sure i want to sue thier sensor to take a picture of my significant other lol The detail is amazing! :)
Hi,

I have found some new SD9 samples on a german site. Taken during
the Photokina (copyrighted by Sigma) :

http://www.foto-erhardt.de/modules.php?name=Testbilder&d_op=viewdownload&cid=67

Regards,

Andreas

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Both JPEG and TIFF files from Sigma Photo Pro contain EXIF headers
thus the only conclusion is that they have been output as TIFF,
They say on their home page that they have saved the images from TIFF
in "100% JPEG".
loaded into an old copy of Photoshop or other Photo package and
output as JPEG.
Obviously not Photoshop, but another Photo package, because there
is still the IJG default 2x2 color subsampling in the JPEGs, seen as larger
16x16 Pixel "Block Grid" in Jpegcrop.
The Photoshop JPEG encoder (which is not IJG based) uses a purer 1x1
color sampling in its higher quality levels, corresponding to a smaller 8x8
Block Grid.

So beware that color is cut in these samples by limited JPEG encoding,
but I hope it is hardly noticeable.
With cjpeg from the IJG tools I would use the option "-sample1x1" for
the Sigma/Foveon images just to be sure to retain the full color.
As said, Photoshop from level 8 or so does this automatically, so Phil
is on the safe side when saving his outputs with PS :-).

What you lose with the JPEG 2x2 color subsampling is exactly 3/4s of
the color data (half resolution color horizontal and vertical compared
to luminance), or 1/2 of image data! That's quite a lot, although in a
much more reasonable way (just color downscaling) than with Bayer
'distortion'.

Almost all other digicams with direct JPEG output use an asymmetric
2x1 (horizontal only) color subsampling due to common video standards.
This loses half the color information, or 1/3 of image information.

As noted, this was probably no big deal for traditional digicam images,
but for Sigma/Foveon images I would recommend to be on the safe side
and use the 1x1 color sampling option for best quality representation.

Regards
Guido
 
Hi,

I have found some new SD9 samples on a german site. Taken during
the Photokina (copyrighted by Sigma) :

http://www.foto-erhardt.de/modules.php?name=Testbilder&d_op=viewdownload&cid=67

Regards,

Andreas
Hi Andreas,

I just compared the SD9 images with a comparable pict taken of a model with the new 1Ds and I am of the opinion that the SD9 pics are more detailed and crisp.

Now I am no authority on these issues and my eyes are definately not the best but from what I can see, this is my conclusion.
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Regards,
Gavin
Canon Pro90IS, B-300 Canon Pro 70
 

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