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Flat Screen Monitors
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Tim P
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My company uses some of them with one of our products and in spite of being expensive, they are not very good for images. I haven't seen one yet that will replace MY tube!
Tim
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Artichoke #46716
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the SGI 1600 flat panel gives any CRT a run for the money
unfortunately SGI replaced it with a lesser quality model, but you might be able to find one used...I LOVE mine
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Keith Aitken
Veteran Member
Bart,
It may be that the purist must have a CRT but we have several
flat screens in the house, and the lack of blur and vibration are an
absolute boon to the eyes when doing a lot of photo-editing.
I am using an 18" flat screen by NEC and it may not be the most
expensive, but its quality makes me glad every day ... The reduced
amount of desk real estate used by a flat screen is also a nice bonus.
Keith
It may be that the purist must have a CRT but we have several
flat screens in the house, and the lack of blur and vibration are an
absolute boon to the eyes when doing a lot of photo-editing.
I am using an 18" flat screen by NEC and it may not be the most
expensive, but its quality makes me glad every day ... The reduced
amount of desk real estate used by a flat screen is also a nice bonus.
Keith
Tony the Tiger
Senior Member
I have two samsung monitors... they are fantastic the colors reach out at you and the lack of flicker is great. Anymore when I look at a crt the letters in documents, pictures, etc..all look blurry and dull... just my opinion and I am not looking back...
Tony
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Michael Demyan
Leading Member
Which one of these LCD's can be calibrated using the Pantone Spyder??
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Ayrow
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I have been a graphic artist for years and have spent a great deal of money on large, high-quality monitors for my studio.
Times have changed, as have prices and quality.
Unfortunately, I have yet to find an LCD monitor, at any level, that I felt had the sharpness and/or correct color reproduction.
They are great for reading, and general computer use and are a dream for helping with eye-strain. However, they are not what we would consider "tack-sharp" by any means and adjusting/tweaking the color output can be difficult, if not impossible on some models.
Also, one always has to deal with the standing directly in front of the monitor to get the best results. Not always easy with several monitors in the same room.
Sony and Apple have the best LCD monitors out there, but they come at a hefty price.
Even the best of the best leave me shaking my head, if not disappointed. I will stick to CRTs until a new technology comes along that is better.
Right now, I just don't see it.
One side note: LCD monitors are horrible for game playing and movie watching as they do not "refresh" fast enough to keep up.
However, that is not what this forum is about.
Good Luck.
Ayrow
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Times have changed, as have prices and quality.
Unfortunately, I have yet to find an LCD monitor, at any level, that I felt had the sharpness and/or correct color reproduction.
They are great for reading, and general computer use and are a dream for helping with eye-strain. However, they are not what we would consider "tack-sharp" by any means and adjusting/tweaking the color output can be difficult, if not impossible on some models.
Also, one always has to deal with the standing directly in front of the monitor to get the best results. Not always easy with several monitors in the same room.
Sony and Apple have the best LCD monitors out there, but they come at a hefty price.
Even the best of the best leave me shaking my head, if not disappointed. I will stick to CRTs until a new technology comes along that is better.
Right now, I just don't see it.
One side note: LCD monitors are horrible for game playing and movie watching as they do not "refresh" fast enough to keep up.
However, that is not what this forum is about.
Good Luck.
Ayrow
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ajs2107922
Leading Member
Have to agree with the last commenst. Flat panels lack dynamic range and you need to check you veiwing angle all the time. The colour is not too hot either. The amount of control & sSGB support of a good CRT is hard to beet. A cheap CRT looses the sharpness around the edges. A $500 dollar 19" crt is hard to beet!
Times have changed, as have prices and quality.
Unfortunately, I have yet to find an LCD monitor, at any level,
that I felt had the sharpness and/or correct color reproduction.
They are great for reading, and general computer use and are a
dream for helping with eye-strain. However, they are not what we
would consider "tack-sharp" by any means and adjusting/tweaking the
color output can be difficult, if not impossible on some models.
Also, one always has to deal with the standing directly in front of
the monitor to get the best results. Not always easy with several
monitors in the same room.
Sony and Apple have the best LCD monitors out there, but they come
at a hefty price.
Even the best of the best leave me shaking my head, if not
disappointed. I will stick to CRTs until a new technology comes
along that is better.
Right now, I just don't see it.
One side note: LCD monitors are horrible for game playing and
movie watching as they do not "refresh" fast enough to keep up.
However, that is not what this forum is about.
Good Luck.
Ayrow
http://www.ayrow.com
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Matt Chroust
Leading Member
I agree too. I would rather have a good tube than the best flat panel you could offer me. I keep a spare 21" in the closet just in case someone tries to pry one from my cold, dead fingers.
Regards,
Matt
Matt
Regards,
Matt
--Times have changed, as have prices and quality.
Unfortunately, I have yet to find an LCD monitor, at any level,
that I felt had the sharpness and/or correct color reproduction.
They are great for reading, and general computer use and are a
dream for helping with eye-strain. However, they are not what we
would consider "tack-sharp" by any means and adjusting/tweaking the
color output can be difficult, if not impossible on some models.
Also, one always has to deal with the standing directly in front of
the monitor to get the best results. Not always easy with several
monitors in the same room.
Sony and Apple have the best LCD monitors out there, but they come
at a hefty price.
Even the best of the best leave me shaking my head, if not
disappointed. I will stick to CRTs until a new technology comes
along that is better.
Right now, I just don't see it.
One side note: LCD monitors are horrible for game playing and
movie watching as they do not "refresh" fast enough to keep up.
However, that is not what this forum is about.
Good Luck.
Ayrow
http://www.ayrow.com
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Matt
John Miskelly
Member
Also agree with the recent comments. My 19" LaCie beats any LCD monitor I have ever seen. This is particularly important when you're using critical colour management techniques (which all of us pro photographers should be doing). LCD monitors are good for a secondary monitor on a two monitor setup where the tool bars for Photoshop or similar can be placed on the LCD, and this without too much desk space being taken up.
John
Ayrow
Well-known member
One of these days, probably within the next few years, a technology will evolve that will wipe out CRT's and LCD panels.
But, like I said, CRT's are still the way to go.
Especially when you consider what you get for the price now.
Ayrow
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But, like I said, CRT's are still the way to go.
Especially when you consider what you get for the price now.
Ayrow
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Tony the Tiger
Senior Member
Michael,
I haven't purchased the spyder to calibrate my monitors. I used the callibration software that came with them. I had or have two viewsonic crt monitors that I replaced with these LCD's and I cannot believe the quality of the image that I see before my eyes. As far as posters saying that you have to be in front of the monitor, well they obviously don't own one. This is not the same technology that is in my gateway or toshiba laptop. It has well over 120 degrees viewing area and can be viewed off center without loss in picture quality. And if I want the monitor a little straighter I tap it with my finger. My model has a built in tuner to watch monday night football while I type stuff in this forum or play with pictures. To each his own....
Tony
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I haven't purchased the spyder to calibrate my monitors. I used the callibration software that came with them. I had or have two viewsonic crt monitors that I replaced with these LCD's and I cannot believe the quality of the image that I see before my eyes. As far as posters saying that you have to be in front of the monitor, well they obviously don't own one. This is not the same technology that is in my gateway or toshiba laptop. It has well over 120 degrees viewing area and can be viewed off center without loss in picture quality. And if I want the monitor a little straighter I tap it with my finger. My model has a built in tuner to watch monday night football while I type stuff in this forum or play with pictures. To each his own....
Tony
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Sheyingshi
Well-known member
I find the flat screen that came with my G4 iMac to be excellent. For one thing, it gave me back my desk. Now I have room for both the keyboard and the Wacom. For another, the viewing angle is much improved over earlier models. I've been able to callibrate it so the prints I get from my 1270 match it exactly, which is all I need. The only thing I miss from the CRT's is the ability to have all those resolutions to choose from.
Paul,
Glad to hear the screen on the new iMac looks good. I just ordered one yesterday.
Thanks,
Bart
Glad to hear the screen on the new iMac looks good. I just ordered one yesterday.
Thanks,
Bart
Bob Warren
Member
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Which Samsung do you have? I have purchased two LCD monitors and returned them both. The colors are great but impossible to calibrate to my Epson 1280. I really do want the desk space but am very reluctant to try any LCD's again. Please reply with a model number.
Bob
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.Ray
Leading Member
There are a couple of companies working on a "thin" cathrod ray screens which doesn't use tubes. Instead of eletronic guns, it uses an array of of filaments that emit electrons, then using high voltage to accelerate and shoot the electrons onto the normal phosphor screen within centimetres away.
This is essentially CRT technology reinvented.
HGED technology:
http://www.telegendisplays.com/technology.html
I believe this will be the CRT replacement.
Ray
This is essentially CRT technology reinvented.
HGED technology:
http://www.telegendisplays.com/technology.html
I believe this will be the CRT replacement.
Ray
Greg Marshall
Forum Enthusiast
Ray,
Work on such displays has been going on for years and has not yet produced a practical display device. The main problem has been that the electron emitters wear out too quickly. Meanwhile, other technologies such as organic LEDs have shown considerable promise.
Greg
Work on such displays has been going on for years and has not yet produced a practical display device. The main problem has been that the electron emitters wear out too quickly. Meanwhile, other technologies such as organic LEDs have shown considerable promise.
Greg
I have a Samsung Syncmaster 170T Calibrated with the LCD Spyder. Color matches my Epson 7600 Right on! I bought the Samsung right after my expensive Sony CRT went bad. It was still under warranty but I would have had to pay shipping to the Sony service center in CA. Decided then and there to try using an LCD for my work. Haven't looked back.
Tony the Tiger
Senior Member
Bob,
I have a 150mp and a 170mp both are great the only differece is screen size the 170 is 17 inches which is equivalent to a 19 inch crt in realestate. Get one!
Life is one long surface interval
I have a 150mp and a 170mp both are great the only differece is screen size the 170 is 17 inches which is equivalent to a 19 inch crt in realestate. Get one!
Life is one long surface interval
J
Jimmy Z
Guest
Can anyone offer a brand and number of a really high quality non LCD monitor. I will be using it to diplay photos to my wedding customers and also editing and photoshop activitys
jim
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