PC guy thinking about an iMac - opinions?

If you do buy a Mac, be sure to buy Apple Care. Mine paid for itself in just one of the trips to the Apple Store for repairs.
Very good advice because troubleshooting and fixing Macs are not as openly known as for PCs. My friend is a service technician at one of the local Apple Care stores and he tells me they have a brisk business of Macs coming in with both hardware and software problems. My sister-in-law spend six hours at Apple Care with her MacBook last week and still her problem was not resolved. She had to leave it there instead of taking it on her scheduled vacation.

--mamallama
 
I often watch 2 videos on my Windows box and never a shudder. Just yesterday world cup in a window no sound and streaming video while doing other stuff on the other monitor. Currently in Seven but did the same in Vista. My TV cards are not compatible with OSX so the mac was sleeping while my Widows box was churning away :) They are just computers a the differences are not as big as some make them out to be.
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Doug
 
I was only offering my opinion as he asked, but get trashed for making a Windows recommendation on a Mac Forum. The Mac guardians here are a bit touchy.
No worse than any other forum. Go to the PC Forum and make a recommendation for a Mac, see how well that goes over. Or go to the Olympus Forum and reccomend a Nikon or Canon SLR instead of 4/3rds. They love that, especially when it's about full frame.
 
Not any odder that Mac fan boys eager to spend other peoples money. Switch switch switch I switched so should you you'll love it I do. Goodie goodie goodie another mac user. Switch switch switch.

If a person needs a new up to date computer or needs a second computer or has a mac program he needs then by all means get the best mac you can afford. Heck if you have a couple of thousand $ laying around with nothing else to buy and want to play go ahead.

Most people don't have cash to through around freely and to encourage them to abandon a perfectly good computer because you like the OS just doesn't seem right.

OSX vs. Windows7 the differences just are not that big a deal to switch on a whim.

If I came home and my computer and monitor were gone, blown up, lost in fire ect. I would drive strait to the nearest Apple store and get a fully loaded 27" Imac but save that catastrophe there is nothing at all wrong with my Windows box or its OS so no need to switch. Especially when $500 hackintosh works as well as any $2000 Mac Pro. I do lust after that gorgeous 27" Imac though.
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Doug
 
If you do buy a Mac, be sure to buy Apple Care. Mine paid for itself in just one of the trips to the Apple Store for repairs.
Very good advice because troubleshooting and fixing Macs are not as openly known as for PCs.
Maybe for you, but it's not that difficult.

However, AppleCare can be well worth it, especially for laptops (for desktops it's less clear cut). A friend of mine took his 2 year old Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro in for service and they decided that instead of replacing the logic board and DVD drive, they'd just give him a new one, so he went home with a brand new Core i7 MacBook Pro, no questions asked.
My friend is a service technician at one of the local Apple Care stores and he tells me they have a brisk business of Macs coming in with both hardware and software problems.
That doesn't mean anything. The PC shops have a brisk business too, probably more so.
My sister-in-law spend six hours at Apple Care with her MacBook last week and still her problem was not resolved. She had to leave it there instead of taking it on her scheduled vacation.
That can happen with any product. What was the problem?
 
I was only offering my opinion as he asked, but get trashed for making a Windows recommendation on a Mac Forum. The Mac guardians here are a bit touchy.
No worse than any other forum. Go to the PC Forum and make a recommendation for a Mac, see how well that goes over. Or go to the Olympus Forum and reccomend a Nikon or Canon SLR instead of 4/3rds. They love that, especially when it's about full frame.
But I was only offering opinions as the OP asked, not recommending a PC. The crowd here is really tough if you don't offer praise to the Mac.

--mamallama
 
If you do buy a Mac, be sure to buy Apple Care. Mine paid for itself in just one of the trips to the Apple Store for repairs.
Very good advice because troubleshooting and fixing Macs are not as openly known as for PCs.
Maybe for you, but it's not that difficult.

However, AppleCare can be well worth it, especially for laptops (for desktops it's less clear cut). A friend of mine took his 2 year old Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro in for service and they decided that instead of replacing the logic board and DVD drive, they'd just give him a new one, so he went home with a brand new Core i7 MacBook Pro, no questions asked.
My friend is a service technician at one of the local Apple Care stores and he tells me they have a brisk business of Macs coming in with both hardware and software problems.
That doesn't mean anything. The PC shops have a brisk business too, probably more so.
To me, it means that all those posts I read that say get a Mac and avoid the problems that plague PCs is only a myth. And you are adding to that myth with your "probably more so" kicker. The "more so" is likely because there are more PCs out there and the failure rates are no different.
My sister-in-law spend six hours at Apple Care with her MacBook last week and still her problem was not resolved. She had to leave it there instead of taking it on her scheduled vacation.
That can happen with any product. What was the problem?
They loaded a new OS and some of her Mac programs don't show up or don't open.

--mamallama
 
To me, it means that all those posts I read that say get a Mac and avoid the problems that plague PCs is only a myth.
So tell us, where can we find lots of Macs that have been eaten alive by viruses and other malware?

Malware infections are a common problem in the PC world, and almost unknown in the Mac one.
 
To me, it means that all those posts I read that say get a Mac and avoid the problems that plague PCs is only a myth.
So tell us, where can we find lots of Macs that have been eaten alive by viruses and other malware?

Malware infections are a common problem in the PC world, and almost unknown in the Mac one.
I have 3 PCs and one Mac all running fast and smoothly without any viruses or malware of any kind. So you tell me, what's my problem?

Yes, I have comprehensive security protection on my 3 PCs ($49 for all three per year) but that's cheap protection to get machines that are standard, non-proprietary ATX hardware that are easily upgraded, expanded, repaired without the need of "PC Care".

--mamallama
 
Malware infections are a common problem in the PC world, and almost unknown in the Mac one.
You probably mean "in the Windows world", right? Because PCs are Windows, Mac OS and Linux.

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Edvinas
 
Malware infections are a common problem in the PC world, and almost unknown in the Mac one.
You probably mean "in the Windows world", right? Because PCs are Windows, Mac OS and Linux.
Yes, in the US, PCs are generally taken to be Window computers. Just the way word usage has evolved here in the US.

Note that the PC Talk forum here is about Window computers.

--mamallama
 
After too many years with a PC, I'm finally thinking about jettisoning everything and moving over to an imac; the 27" with a i7 processor and 4 GB of RAM seem interesting but I don't know how to spec a Mac out.

With my ever larger catalogues of pictures and now that I am moving into more video, I'm tired of all of the PC hangs, crashes, and problems. BTW, I'm running a quadcore with 6 GB of RAM, decent video card, etc. Any thoughts and expereiences would be appreciated regarding specs, speed, drawbacks, etc. Thanks!
As others have said, specing a Mac is not that different than specing a Windows box - all the RAM you can afford, enough HD space for what you do, and then the rest of the money on the CPU. If you plan to run Aperture, get the best available video card as well - Aperture likes all the video card it can get.

The iMac does have a glossy screen so you need to arrange your workspace so that it minimizes glared on the screen.

And then enjoy - you won't find many who switch from Mac to Windows.

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Bob
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Bob Rockefeller
Savannah, GA
http://www.bobrockefeller.com
 
I have 3 PCs and one Mac all running fast and smoothly without any viruses or malware of any kind. So you tell me, what's my problem?
Yes, I have comprehensive security protection on my 3 PCs ($49 for all three per year) but that's cheap protection to get machines that are standard, non-proprietary ATX hardware that are easily upgraded, expanded, repaired without the need of "PC Care".
In terms of viruses and malware, there is something to be said about a 'carefree' internet and online mail experience, which is what you get with a Mac....for at least now anyway.

You may be virus and malware free, but you as the consumer have to work in order to keep it that way. By 'work' I mean that you have to continually buy and update your virus and malware protection, which I don't care what you say, are not fool proof, and some will slip by no matter what you do. And then there is the tip toeing around the internet, ensuring that you don't go to the wrong site, or open the wrong email. With a Mac, there is none of that. I can go where I want and open whatever I want, and really have no worries of any type of virus or malware infection.

This kind of end user experience is worth quite a bit to me, and something that a Windows user will never experience to the same degree no matter what safeguards that they put into place. There's always a smarter hacker around the corner.
 
I have 3 PCs and one Mac all running fast and smoothly without any viruses or malware of any kind. So you tell me, what's my problem?
Yes, I have comprehensive security protection on my 3 PCs ($49 for all three per year) but that's cheap protection to get machines that are standard, non-proprietary ATX hardware that are easily upgraded, expanded, repaired without the need of "PC Care".
In terms of viruses and malware, there is something to be said about a 'carefree' internet and online mail experience, which is what you get with a Mac....for at least now anyway.

You may be virus and malware free, but you as the consumer have to work in order to keep it that way. By 'work' I mean that you have to continually buy and update your virus and malware protection, which I don't care what you say, are not fool proof, and some will slip by no matter what you do. And then there is the tip toeing around the internet, ensuring that you don't go to the wrong site, or open the wrong email. With a Mac, there is none of that. I can go where I want and open whatever I want, and really have no worries of any type of virus or malware infection.

This kind of end user experience is worth quite a bit to me, and something that a Windows user will never experience to the same degree no matter what safeguards that they put into place. There's always a smarter hacker around the corner.
I know what I have to do and have done so successfully for many years. It's worth it to me to get a computer that I have more control of than one with the proprietary stuff that's more costly to purchase, upgrade and repair. And I decide the configuration of my computer.

The little extra work and expense are well worth the extra advantages I get with a more standardized computer. And no, I have never experienced those horrors you describe.

Also, there are some questions about whether Macs are 100% free of all malware:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10444561-245.html

--mamallama
 
When I was looking at a Macbook I went with a matte screen as I found the glossy screen a real problem due to reflections and glare. If you get the chance I would really recommend that you try out the screen to see if this will be an issue to you. Some people love them and some hate them :-)

As to the switch - well I still run both a Windows PC ( Vista ) and my Macbook and I really don't see much difference in stability or ease of use.

Nick
 
If you do buy a Mac, be sure to buy Apple Care. Mine paid for itself in just one of the trips to the Apple Store for repairs.
Very good advice because troubleshooting and fixing Macs are not as openly known as for PCs.
Maybe for you, but it's not that difficult.

However, AppleCare can be well worth it, especially for laptops (for desktops it's less clear cut).
While troubleshooting and fixing Macs is not as widely known, the Internet levels the playing field considerably. There's a wealth of information in the Apple user forums alone, not to mention the countless Mac tech web sites. When I wanted to crack the cases of my older Mac laptops to upgrade the hard drives, back before Apple put the instructions in the manual (as they do with the current models), I simply went to ifixit.com, downloaded the DIY instructions, and got the job done for free.

The case for AppleCare is interesting because what is being said is "Macs are better than PCs, but you better get that warranty because your Mac might die at any time." I'm just joking there, I run no Windows machines, but ultimately, if you run a business, you just get AppleCare from one of the cheaper non-Apple vendors and then write it off as a business expense.
 
If you do buy a Mac, be sure to buy Apple Care. Mine paid for itself in just one of the trips to the Apple Store for repairs.
Very good advice because troubleshooting and fixing Macs are not as openly known as for PCs.
Maybe for you, but it's not that difficult.

However, AppleCare can be well worth it, especially for laptops (for desktops it's less clear cut).
While troubleshooting and fixing Macs is not as widely known, the Internet levels the playing field considerably. There's a wealth of information in the Apple user forums alone, not to mention the countless Mac tech web sites. When I wanted to crack the cases of my older Mac laptops to upgrade the hard drives, back before Apple put the instructions in the manual (as they do with the current models), I simply went to ifixit.com, downloaded the DIY instructions, and got the job done for free.

The case for AppleCare is interesting because what is being said is "Macs are better than PCs, but you better get that warranty because your Mac might die at any time." I'm just joking there, I run no Windows machines, but ultimately, if you run a business, you just get AppleCare from one of the cheaper non-Apple vendors and then write it off as a business expense.
A couple of points: Apple Care is worth it because Apple proprietary parts are expensive to replace, not like your relatively inexpensive standard ATX PC stuff and Apple Care is reasonably priced insurance.

Question: Is Apple Care available from non-Apple vendors? I thought it was only available from Apple.

--mamallama
 
With a Mac, there is none of that. I can go where I want and open whatever I want, and really have no worries of any type of virus or malware infection.
You're very wrong here.
This kind of end user experience is worth quite a bit to me, and something that a Windows user will never experience to the same degree no matter what safeguards that they put into place. There's always a smarter hacker around the corner.
Indeed, there are smart hackers out there. And they hack Mac OS X as easy as Windows.

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Edvinas
 
With a Mac, there is none of that. I can go where I want and open whatever I want, and really have no worries of any type of virus or malware infection.
You're very wrong here.
I am? Please feel free to enlighten me of these rampant OSX viruses that are impairing systems. Fact of the matter is that if you don't give root access, a virus can invade a Mac system, but can do little damage. This is totally the opposite for a Windows based system. Again, feel free to support your comment.
 
The little extra work and expense are well worth the extra advantages I get with a more standardized computer. And no, I have never experienced those horrors you describe.

Also, there are some questions about whether Macs are 100% free of all malware:
http://news.cnet.com/8301-27080_3-10444561-245.html
Thanks for the read as it proves my point with the sandboxing comment. Viruses can enter a Mac system, but there is little they can do once there unless they are given root access, which is the key. Windows is different in this regard, and if a virus gets in, can wreak all kinds of havoc on the registry and file system. Certainly gives Paul Cooke job security.

To each his/her own, but currently, the Mac provides the most enjoyable 'carefree' existence in computing today. That could change as market share grows, but for now, I'll take OSX any day of the week.
 

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