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Well gang I think I may have made a 1000 dollar mistake. I bought the new F717 5.2 sony camera and the colors and focus is giving me problems. I am not alone in this either. Several on sony forum having problems also.
The 2 MP C2100 has deeper and bolder colors and the images are also sharper.
Only good thing is I still have my Uzi and also a backup Uzi thanks to BillyBob.

Just venting...thanks for reading.

Regards,
Allan
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http://www.pbase.com/allan_mann

Olympus C2100 UZI.. Kodak DX4330...Oly B300 Canon A40.. Sony DSC F717...Fuji 2600
 
Is it really that bad. That is the camera I was look to replace the UZI with.
I will have to start reading the Sony forum.

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Allan Mann said:
Well gang I think I may have made a 1000 dollar mistake. I bought
the new F717 5.2 sony camera and the colors and focus is giving me
problems. I am not alone in this either. Several on sony forum
having problems also.
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I'm really surprised to hear that. My Japanese friend was here last month with his 707 and we were so impressed with the color that my wife is pushing me to get one.
But I like my 2100 with the IS to even think about it.
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I keep hearing that the red is the main problem with Sony ???

John
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Allan Mann said:
Well gang I think I may have made a 1000 dollar mistake. I bought
the new F717 5.2 sony camera and the colors and focus is giving me
problems. I am not alone in this either. Several on sony forum
having problems also.
Click to expand...
I'm really surprised to hear that. My Japanese friend was here last
month with his 707 and we were so impressed with the color that my
wife is pushing me to get one.
But I like my 2100 with the IS to even think about it.
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****
http://www.pbase.com/dickh/
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jdagreek
C-2020, C-4000, Titanium Digital Optics 2x Telephoto, NiMH+1900
 
I know a lot of folks complain about the Sony reds, but I LOVE my F707. If the reds look funky you can always mess around with them in PS. The reds are supposedly improved in the F717, but I'm sure you already know that.

I am NEVER giving up my UZI or my EZI! The 707 took quite a bit of getting used to after using the UZI, but I've warmed up to it. Heck, I don't even mind the weird zoom lever now. And I'm not broken hearted that my F707 doesn't have a histogram feature, although it's a nice addition. I couldn't resist it when I bought mine. I got it price-matched at Sears for a 'steal'! Hope you can work out the kinks.

;)
Willa
http://www.pbase.com/willa

 
I have (you may say) studied the 707 reviews and samples. It is in my opinion is the best camera available for $1,000 price the next step is $2,000 +$lens. I had C2100 for more than 7 months. It only can be compared to 707 at X10 zoom. For a lower zoom setting it just loosing. I think it is important to learn the camera and its specifics. It is true for any new digicam. I think you need to get C2100 (it is not that expensive) and you these to camera in comparison. It should put everything into the order. :-)
Leo
Allan Mann said:
Well gang I think I may have made a 1000 dollar mistake. I bought
the new F717 5.2 sony camera and the colors and focus is giving me
problems. I am not alone in this either. Several on sony forum
having problems also.
The 2 MP C2100 has deeper and bolder colors and the images are also
sharper.
Only good thing is I still have my Uzi and also a backup Uzi thanks
to BillyBob.

Just venting...thanks for reading.

Regards,
Allan
--
http://www.pbase.com/allan_mann

Olympus C2100 UZI.. Kodak DX4330...Oly B300 Canon A40.. Sony DSC
F717...Fuji 2600
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Hi Allen

I am sorry to hear of your disappointment with the 717. I have recently added a 707 to compliment my c-700. I absolutely love it. The 717 uses the same sensor and lens as the 707, the changes being mostly in firmware. If your camera is a dud you should exchange it, and give the replacement a fair chance. Most people with the 717 on the Sony forum are delighted. Phil's own review statess the 7x7 as the "king of resolution" amongst 5mp prosumer digicams. Sooo many POTD's are shot with the 7x7. The UZi is a fantastic camera, there will be times when the UZi will cut it, and the sony won't. I was at an airshow and shot a hundred with my c-700, the sony stayed in the bag. But when maximum resolving power is called for the sony is the hands down winner. Many critisize the sony for its color. The shot I share here is (just about) out of the camera. The colors are very accurate, the detail in the printed image is stunning. The sony will render velvety smooth blue skies, not a hint of noise. Your UZi couldn't pull this off on its best day. Good luck, I hope you work things out. Regards


Allan Mann said:
Well gang I think I may have made a 1000 dollar mistake. I bought
the new F717 5.2 sony camera and the colors and focus is giving me
problems. I am not alone in this either. Several on sony forum
having problems also.
The 2 MP C2100 has deeper and bolder colors and the images are also
sharper.
Only good thing is I still have my Uzi and also a backup Uzi thanks
to BillyBob.

Just venting...thanks for reading.

Regards,
Allan
--
http://www.pbase.com/allan_mann

Olympus C2100 UZI.. Kodak DX4330...Oly B300 Canon A40.. Sony DSC
F717...Fuji 2600
Click to expand...
--
rich
c-700, d-510, DSC-F707
'it's not having what you want, it's wanting what you got'
http://www.pbase.com/iceninevt
 
Here's another reason to keep the sony

30sec, f2 ISO 100. Temp in the desert was about 80 deg f. This should demonstrate what the 7x7 is capable of. Your UZi, for all it is capable of, could not pull this off. Your sony can, easily. Regards again


iceninevt said:
I am sorry to hear of your disappointment with the 717. I have
recently added a 707 to compliment my c-700. I absolutely love it.
The 717 uses the same sensor and lens as the 707, the changes being
mostly in firmware. If your camera is a dud you should exchange it,
and give the replacement a fair chance. Most people with the 717 on
the Sony forum are delighted. Phil's own review statess the 7x7 as
the "king of resolution" amongst 5mp prosumer digicams. Sooo many
POTD's are shot with the 7x7. The UZi is a fantastic camera, there
will be times when the UZi will cut it, and the sony won't. I was
at an airshow and shot a hundred with my c-700, the sony stayed in
the bag. But when maximum resolving power is called for the sony is
the hands down winner. Many critisize the sony for its color. The
shot I share here is (just about) out of the camera. The colors are
very accurate, the detail in the printed image is stunning. The
sony will render velvety smooth blue skies, not a hint of noise.
Your UZi couldn't pull this off on its best day. Good luck, I hope
you work things out. Regards


Allan Mann said:
Well gang I think I may have made a 1000 dollar mistake. I bought
the new F717 5.2 sony camera and the colors and focus is giving me
problems. I am not alone in this either. Several on sony forum
having problems also.
The 2 MP C2100 has deeper and bolder colors and the images are also
sharper.
Only good thing is I still have my Uzi and also a backup Uzi thanks
to BillyBob.

Just venting...thanks for reading.

Regards,
Allan
--
http://www.pbase.com/allan_mann

Olympus C2100 UZI.. Kodak DX4330...Oly B300 Canon A40.. Sony DSC
F717...Fuji 2600
Click to expand...
--
rich
c-700, d-510, DSC-F707
'it's not having what you want, it's wanting what you got'
http://www.pbase.com/iceninevt
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rich
c-700, d-510, DSC-F707
'it's not having what you want, it's wanting what you got'
http://www.pbase.com/iceninevt
 
Sorry to hear you're having problems Alan. I was considering one of the Sonys for awhile but have recently turned my attention to the Dimage 7i or 7hi. Still a bit out of my range yet.

BillyBob
 
No way are the Oly colors better! I have only had mine since last night and had a few focusing problems indoors in dim light until I changed the focus to narrow beam, but the color is exactly as is and the Uzi never got the chair and cat right. See these photos, the last ones I took after getting a little advice on the Sony forum. These have not had any color enhancement in Photoshop or Levels.

http://www.pbase.com/digidiva100/sony_f717_first_shots

I admit it takes a bit more effort to learn to use it but the resolution and color is great. I didn't really care for the over saturated look of the 707.

Judy Howle
Allan Mann said:
Well gang I think I may have made a 1000 dollar mistake. I bought
the new F717 5.2 sony camera and the colors and focus is giving me
problems. I am not alone in this either. Several on sony forum
having problems also.
The 2 MP C2100 has deeper and bolder colors and the images are also
sharper.
Only good thing is I still have my Uzi and also a backup Uzi thanks
to BillyBob.

Just venting...thanks for reading.

Regards,
Allan
--
http://www.pbase.com/allan_mann

Olympus C2100 UZI.. Kodak DX4330...Oly B300 Canon A40.. Sony DSC
F717...Fuji 2600
Click to expand...
--
Judy Howle
Digital Photography
http://www.cableone.net/howle/page/digital_photography.htm
 
deeper and bolder color than a Sony? it must be defective because usually Sony has the most bold colors I have seen. Maybe you should exchange it for a F707? it should be cheaper and if you like bold colors...you'll be impressed with the 707.
Allan Mann said:
Well gang I think I may have made a 1000 dollar mistake. I bought
the new F717 5.2 sony camera and the colors and focus is giving me
problems. I am not alone in this either. Several on sony forum
having problems also.
The 2 MP C2100 has deeper and bolder colors and the images are also
sharper.
Only good thing is I still have my Uzi and also a backup Uzi thanks
to BillyBob.

Just venting...thanks for reading.

Regards,
Allan
--
http://www.pbase.com/allan_mann

Olympus C2100 UZI.. Kodak DX4330...Oly B300 Canon A40.. Sony DSC
F717...Fuji 2600
Click to expand...
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Daniella
http://www.photosig.com/viewuser.php?id=26918
http://www.pbase.com/zylen
C700 FORUM: http://www.c700uz.com
 
I considered the 707 and the 717, but I decided to bite the bullet and get the Canon D-60. I figure I've made my last stop shopping for cameras and will spend my money on new glass. It will be delivered soon, and I'm so excited about it.
 
Can we expect a lot of fine pictures made while you were out of sight? We've missed you around here.
 
I gave up on the Dimage 7Hi. The noise level is way too high for ISO 200 or higher. Check Steve's Digicam.
BillyBob said:
Sorry to hear you're having problems Alan. I was considering one
of the Sonys for awhile but have recently turned my attention to
the Dimage 7i or 7hi. Still a bit out of my range yet.

BillyBob
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--
Oliver S., PBase Supporter
http://www.pbase.com/suio
Olympus C-4000, C-2100, A-200
Canon A-20
 
I have read through most of the messages about this and frankly it sounds more like operator error.

One survey there shows 18 with no problem and one with the focus problem.

One person showed how the Hologram AF could get confused in low light situations where there was still enough light to focus without it.

Too many photos posted that look pretty good to me.

I know those who switched from the UZi to the 717 are probably not used to a camera without IS.

Have you tried yours on a tripod at different objects and different lighting with the timer?

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RichO :)
San Antonio, TX
http://www.pbase.com/richo/
http://www.richo.org/LearningCenter/digitalphoto/faq_olympus.htm
'Life is a dance, Love is the music.'
 
iceninevt,

I agree totally. Sheez, I won a Olympus C-720 with my 707. Now that I have my 717, I am more than satisified. As for the members that are claiming a focus problem, it's more of a user error and/or over estimating the capability of the camera. Beside, it was only 4-6 members that was having the issue. Sure all the consumer level digital camera have auto everything, but you can't expect auto eveything to give you the money shot everytime cause that ain't gonna happen.
iceninevt said:
I am sorry to hear of your disappointment with the 717. I have
recently added a 707 to compliment my c-700. I absolutely love it.
The 717 uses the same sensor and lens as the 707, the changes being
mostly in firmware. If your camera is a dud you should exchange it,
and give the replacement a fair chance. Most people with the 717 on
the Sony forum are delighted. Phil's own review statess the 7x7 as
the "king of resolution" amongst 5mp prosumer digicams. Sooo many
POTD's are shot with the 7x7. The UZi is a fantastic camera, there
will be times when the UZi will cut it, and the sony won't. I was
at an airshow and shot a hundred with my c-700, the sony stayed in
the bag. But when maximum resolving power is called for the sony is
the hands down winner. Many critisize the sony for its color. The
shot I share here is (just about) out of the camera. The colors are
very accurate, the detail in the printed image is stunning. The
sony will render velvety smooth blue skies, not a hint of noise.
Your UZi couldn't pull this off on its best day. Good luck, I hope
you work things out. Regards


Allan Mann said:
Well gang I think I may have made a 1000 dollar mistake. I bought
the new F717 5.2 sony camera and the colors and focus is giving me
problems. I am not alone in this either. Several on sony forum
having problems also.
The 2 MP C2100 has deeper and bolder colors and the images are also
sharper.
Only good thing is I still have my Uzi and also a backup Uzi thanks
to BillyBob.

Just venting...thanks for reading.

Regards,
Allan
--
http://www.pbase.com/allan_mann

Olympus C2100 UZI.. Kodak DX4330...Oly B300 Canon A40.. Sony DSC
F717...Fuji 2600
Click to expand...
--
rich
c-700, d-510, DSC-F707
'it's not having what you want, it's wanting what you got'
http://www.pbase.com/iceninevt
Click to expand...
--
Canon S100
Olympus C-720
Sony DSC-F717 (bye bye 707)
http://www.pbase.com/zuffy
 
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