Microdrive vs. CompactFlash

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I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify those advantages and/or disadvantages?
 
I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb
compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is
cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure
there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify
those advantages and/or disadvantages?
The diehard compact flash fans will tell you that that CF is less likely to fail as it's solid state rather than having moving parts (and doesn't have problems at high altitude either), is less liable to pack up if you drop it and is generally more tough and robust that a microdrive.

Yes, I read all the pros and cons, but eventually had to go with the economics - I couldn't afford the price of the same amount of memory in CF and was about to embark on a once in a lifetime holiday so I went for the microdrive. It stood up happily to two weeks of the roughest bumpiest tracks that South Africa had to offer without any problems. I leave it in the camera and download direct to the computer so don't I risk dropping it, and I try not to subject it to too much vibration while it is writing files.

I accept that sooner or later it will fail - but mainly my photosessions are short so I wouldn't lose too many shots. Hopefully by the time it does fail, CF prices will be comparable - and I will probably then buy CF. In the meantime, the microdrive is well on the way to paying for itself as compared to the costs of film and processing.

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Jill
http://www.bellsbarn.demon.co.uk
 
I think economics is important. I bought the 512 compact flash because I'm kind of clumsy and I tend to drop things. I considered the microdrive. Amazon has a pretty good price on their 512 cards and with the rebate two 512 cards are around 300.00 plus shipping and tax.

Pam
I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb
compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is
cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure
there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify
those advantages and/or disadvantages?
The diehard compact flash fans will tell you that that CF is less
likely to fail as it's solid state rather than having moving parts
(and doesn't have problems at high altitude either), is less liable
to pack up if you drop it and is generally more tough and robust
that a microdrive.

Yes, I read all the pros and cons, but eventually had to go with
the economics - I couldn't afford the price of the same amount of
memory in CF and was about to embark on a once in a lifetime
holiday so I went for the microdrive. It stood up happily to two
weeks of the roughest bumpiest tracks that South Africa had to
offer without any problems. I leave it in the camera and download
direct to the computer so don't I risk dropping it, and I try not
to subject it to too much vibration while it is writing files.

I accept that sooner or later it will fail - but mainly my
photosessions are short so I wouldn't lose too many shots.
Hopefully by the time it does fail, CF prices will be comparable -
and I will probably then buy CF. In the meantime, the microdrive
is well on the way to paying for itself as compared to the costs of
film and processing.

--
Jill
http://www.bellsbarn.demon.co.uk
 
I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb
compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is
cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure
there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify
those advantages and/or disadvantages?
Another question, not an answer: Are there any other functional differences between the two, independent of use with the camera?

For example can I put them both in my laptop (with a pcmcia adapter) and use them as temporary backup? I mean does the microdrive act more like the HD that it is with faster seek time, etc?

If I buy a PDA that takes compactflash, will it take the microdrive?

Most things tend to specifiy type II compact flash, but the only type II item I have seen listed is the microdrive. Are these 512MB type II or type I.

If they are type I that gives them an advantage over the microdrive right? Because if they are type I, they can be used in more devices including PDA's?

You can see I'm fairly ignorant on this subject, please set me straight.
 
Bought the 7hi for speed with RAW images. After you have shot about five quick ones, the speed of recovery (i.e., the amount of time you have to wait until the buffer has enough room to shoot another) will depend on your card speed. I use a Transcend 512meg 25x card. After six fast shots, there is about a six second delay before it is ready to take another. If I was using a slower card, it would take longer. I don't have a slower card so I can't test it for you.

Cost is an issue. You can get my card for $199 at mydigitaldiscount.com. You can get a 1 gig microdrive for about $40 more. Thus the card is almost 2x the cost per meg of the microdrive.

As an engineer, I would think that the flash cards were less likely to fail. But, the microdive has been around long enough to have earned a proven track record.

It depends what you want. I am also using a Lexar fire-wire card reader ($40). Between the fast card and the reader, it is like working with a local disk.

Regards,

Craig
I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb
compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is
cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure
there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify
those advantages and/or disadvantages?
 
Thanks for all your help. I think I'll just start by using the 16mb included card to find out my habbits and which would be better for me, then go out an buy it.
I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb
compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is
cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure
there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify
those advantages and/or disadvantages?
 
I've had a 340 microdrive for about 2 1/2 years. I think I dropped it once on a carpet. Otherwise, I'm not any more careful with it than I would be with anything delicate and expensive. I just bought one more at a price of about $60 delivered after rebate. I also have CF cards for those occasions when I may be above 9000 feet where a microdrive isn't supposed to work. Berge
I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb
compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is
cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure
there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify
those advantages and/or disadvantages?
 
I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb
compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is
cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure
there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify
those advantages and/or disadvantages?
I would be inclined to go with the two 512Mb cards if the price
differential is low.

I have a 1Gb drive which is now about 15 months old
and I'm quite happy with it however at that time the price
differential between the 1Gb and either 4 or 8 CF cards
was a lot higher.

Alternative solution is to go for just one 512Mb card and see
how you go and buy second card later once you've sorted
out your working habits.

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Andrew.
 
Another question, not an answer: Are there any other functional
differences between the two, independent of use with the camera?
For example can I put them both in my laptop (with a pcmcia
adapter) and use them as temporary backup? I mean does the
microdrive act more like the HD that it is with faster seek time,
etc?
No real functional difference. PCMCIA adapter must be Type II compatible, as the Microdrive is CFII.
If I buy a PDA that takes compactflash, will it take the microdrive?
Most things tend to specifiy type II compact flash, but the only
type II item I have seen listed is the microdrive. Are these 512MB
type II or type I.
If they are type I that gives them an advantage over the microdrive
right? Because if they are type I, they can be used in more devices
including PDA's?
It depends on the PDA that you buy. If you buy an IPAQ it has internal slots, but you can buy the expansion jackets to take the Microdrive. I have a 1gb Microdrive and an Ipaq 3970 which I find wonderfully useful. I also have a PQI 256mb as well that I use in both.

Hope that helps, any other questions just ask

Andy
 
I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb
compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is
cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure
there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify
those advantages and/or disadvantages?
I would be inclined to go with the two 512Mb cards if the price
differential is low.

I have a 1Gb drive which is now about 15 months old
and I'm quite happy with it however at that time the price
differential between the 1Gb and either 4 or 8 CF cards
was a lot higher.

Alternative solution is to go for just one 512Mb card and see
how you go and buy second card later once you've sorted
out your working habits.

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Andrew.
if you expect to do some more advanced things, like craig has mentionned (i mean RAV pictures or so), the speed suppose to be a factor. otherwise - who cares..... for example for me as an amateur rather economy than speed should be a factor.

i got my 7i in april. it came with 32 mb card, but i've never used it. i've simply planned earlier that i'll stick 1gig microhd to my camera, what i've done. i got my hd for about $250 and at the time it was very good deal. price of 2 512mb memory cards was significantly higher.

and today i don't even have hd reader. i simply transfer my pictures from camera to pc using copy/paste command. and if it takes 1 or 3 minutes......i don't really care. in this case i'm not in hurry.

and my hd works great so far (knock knock in unpainted wood). i have 1400 picures in fine mode stored and still have space for next 200 pictures.

jack
 
As Jack said, if you are not in a rush it doesn't matter. When I went on vacation this summer it was very handy having a fast card. In between activities I would go back to my room and transfer images to my laptop via a card. That way, I would always have room on my cards plus if something hapened to my camera (i.e. like some one stole it) I would at least still have my images ... Unless someone breaks into my room and steals my laptop.

Here is a link to my summer shots...

http://www.kingwinkie.com/photo/UnitedStates/Maine/acadia02/index.htm

Regards,

Craig
I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb
compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is
cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure
there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify
those advantages and/or disadvantages?
I would be inclined to go with the two 512Mb cards if the price
differential is low.

I have a 1Gb drive which is now about 15 months old
and I'm quite happy with it however at that time the price
differential between the 1Gb and either 4 or 8 CF cards
was a lot higher.

Alternative solution is to go for just one 512Mb card and see
how you go and buy second card later once you've sorted
out your working habits.

--
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Andrew.
if you expect to do some more advanced things, like craig has
mentionned (i mean RAV pictures or so), the speed suppose to be a
factor. otherwise - who cares..... for example for me as an amateur
rather economy than speed should be a factor.
i got my 7i in april. it came with 32 mb card, but i've never used
it. i've simply planned earlier that i'll stick 1gig microhd to my
camera, what i've done. i got my hd for about $250 and at the time
it was very good deal. price of 2 512mb memory cards was
significantly higher.
and today i don't even have hd reader. i simply transfer my
pictures from camera to pc using copy/paste command. and if it
takes 1 or 3 minutes......i don't really care. in this case i'm not
in hurry.
and my hd works great so far (knock knock in unpainted wood). i
have 1400 picures in fine mode stored and still have space for next
200 pictures.

jack
 
Here is a link to my summer shots...

http://www.kingwinkie.com/photo/UnitedStates/Maine/acadia02/index.htm

Regards,

Craig
I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb
compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is
cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure
there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify
those advantages and/or disadvantages?
I would be inclined to go with the two 512Mb cards if the price
differential is low.

I have a 1Gb drive which is now about 15 months old
and I'm quite happy with it however at that time the price
differential between the 1Gb and either 4 or 8 CF cards
was a lot higher.

Alternative solution is to go for just one 512Mb card and see
how you go and buy second card later once you've sorted
out your working habits.

--
---------------
Andrew.
if you expect to do some more advanced things, like craig has
mentionned (i mean RAV pictures or so), the speed suppose to be a
factor. otherwise - who cares..... for example for me as an amateur
rather economy than speed should be a factor.
i got my 7i in april. it came with 32 mb card, but i've never used
it. i've simply planned earlier that i'll stick 1gig microhd to my
camera, what i've done. i got my hd for about $250 and at the time
it was very good deal. price of 2 512mb memory cards was
significantly higher.
and today i don't even have hd reader. i simply transfer my
pictures from camera to pc using copy/paste command. and if it
takes 1 or 3 minutes......i don't really care. in this case i'm not
in hurry.
and my hd works great so far (knock knock in unpainted wood). i
have 1400 picures in fine mode stored and still have space for next
200 pictures.

jack
One more note on this, I have the original 16mb CF - only used to do the update. I have 2 128s bought for original DigiCam. Don't use anymore, I bought a 1G MD for 250 at Ritz, I use it exclusively. Had cam to Europe several times , to Colorado, to New Orleans, to Maine in the about 5-6 months I have had it. Shot several thousand pics - no problems.

Additonally, from my experience, after batteries were cycles several time. I get very good battery life, - several 100 (250+) per charge.
Hope that is a help.
PS: I realllllllly love this D7i

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Richard - D7i Newbie
 
I'm surprized that no one has mentioned things like the Digital Wallet. I bought a small 10G battery operated hard drive for about $200. Will use a smaller CF card and down load frequently to the hard drive(Like the end of the day) we are planning trips to Germany this winter for the Christmas markets and to China in the spring for the Three gorges before they are filled by water. Needed storage for pictures. Other camera (Kodak DC290 - now belongs to my wife - has several CF cards (2- 128meg, , 2 - 64meg , a 48 meg which came with the camera 32 and a 256 meg) We take lots and lots of pictures (500 on a trip to Russia with only one camera - no count on the film camera that my wife used), so figured we needed lots of storage.

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BuggyBob
 
I'm buying a D7hi and I'm either going to buy two 512mb
compactflash cards or one 1gb microdrive. The microdrive is
cheaper than two 512mb compactflash cards, but I'm pretty sure
there are some advantages to compactflash. Can someone specify
those advantages and/or disadvantages?
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I'm sure that people have given you all the plusses and minuses for each system by now. For me, the thing is that microdrives DO fail, but at a low probability of course, and I just don't want to take a chance regardless of how small. Here is a recent thread about that...
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1019&message=3564263
Bryan
 

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