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Tubal said:
Not sure how you can expect Sony to release a new flagship or even an a700 every year.
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A refresh of the midrange every couple years ... even having a current product available for sale ... would be nice. An A700-II with micro AF adjust to have a current product on shelves would be better than nothing.
Tubal said:
It wouldn't be worth the R&D or the plastic molds just to come out with a replacement product the next year.
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It's worth it to tweak the entry level models annually.
Tubal said:
Sony is fine. I expect an a7xx to come out later this year. I'd say another year or two for an a9xx to come out.
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Me too. Problem is, that's what we were saying last year, too.
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pandalee said:
would you please elaborate this I dont get it.
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I disagree with your statement that all serious DSLR users are going full frame. Canon and Nikon, who have much more market share than Sony by the way, don't view the market this way.
pandalee said:
Nikon and Canon do not have any better camera than the A900.
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That is quite debatable. Much depends on what you want. How many pro sport shooters are using an A900?
pandalee said:
the A900 is the best camera I ever tried.
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OK.
pandalee said:
if you are talking about the D300s and the 7D being a better APS-C than the NEX5.
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I wasn't and wouldn't because they are 2 completely different camera types.
pandalee said:
you are wrong since the NEX has the best sensor and I think Nikon is now crying for it.
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Please prove both of your assertions. And even if the NEX had the best sensor in the world please remember that a camera is made of more than just a sensor.
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fjbyrne said:
pandalee said:
what about you moving to FF , forget about the APS-C , all serious DSLRs would be FULLFRAME from now on since the NEX5 is IQ wise already the ebst APS-C.
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I guess someone forgot to send Canon and Nikon that memo.
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Savic76 said:
true, if sony never produce A7xx.
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were are these new lenses ? mirorless is the future , so my A900 will be outdated in a few years and i still have no decent wide glass for it . were is the sony commitment for their flagship A900/A850 ?
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In general, the higher level bodies are on the market longer. Something like the Nikon D3 (and D3s) have a 3-4 year life... the D3s variant is simply a mild refresh to the D3.

In the case of the A700, Sony seems to be skipping any mild refresh and going for the full upgrade. So, it seems like its taking forever to replace the A700. If they had done a mild refresh, people would have complained that not enough was done (some people complained about the D300s).
Savic76 said:
On sony.co.uk and sony.rs in section news for dslr state :
  • Mid-range successor to DSLR-A700 in development
  • More new DSLR models launching in 2010
  • Newly-developed Exmor APS HD CMOS sensor
  • AVCHD format video recording
  • New lenses include Distagon T* 24mm f/2, G 500mm f/4.
Forum is full of A700 successor question and does sony is still have plan for A700 and DSLR commitment after NEX and A700 moved from production last year, if this is not answer for them and patents from last couple of months ( http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2010/0134665.html , http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2009/0303371.html , http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fegami.blog.so-net.ne.jp%2F2010-06-14&sl=ja&tl=en and other) then their complaing is much more trolling. May be is A700 discontinuance mistake but may be for sony ExmorHD is not enought for A7xx and want to produce somthing more better.
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pandalee said:
then I can say the same logic applies to the A900vs A700.

and one thing we know as an undeniable fact is that all those DSLRs with the mirror will soon be obsolete, the morror less is the future you know that.

the DSLRs will survive until Sony, Panny , Samsung or Canon will figure out better CDAF tech for pro level cam.

only one area the mirrorless cam is lugging behind a good APS-C type body is" AF" but the CDAF of NEX will get better and better and eventually replace all SLR shaped ancient cameras and old 50th techs......

can you imagine the A900 sensor in NEX type od body?

I want that for my landscape work.

without mirror , we dont have to worry about mirror dust or many many silly mirror related camera issues.
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Do we really have to worry about mirror dust now? I think we worry a lot more about sensor dust which removing the mirror does nothing to help.

The reason I think that your original post is trolling is because you are not happy just praising the glories of NEX (and there are things to praise), but also have to restate the baseless claims that the NEX type will DSLRs obsolete because it has the best sensor. I agree maybe at the entry level where flexibility isn't important, although Sony may not agree because they recently announced another group of entry level DSLRs.

Remember that all 35mm film cameras had the same sensors and image quality, but there were still multiple brands with multiple levels in each brand. P&S cameras were actually FF and had AF and retractable zoom lenses (and there were hundreds of models at all price ranges and features).

tom
 
pandalee said:
my point is just like the A700 is a better body than the NEX(besides the sensor, of course) , the A900 is better than the A700 in all areas even the sensor department this time.

so , get the A900 if you need any better body than the A700 from Sony.
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You have obviously missed many of the previous posts commenting on features removed from the A900.

Many people don't need or want the extra costs ($, size and weight, file size, and $) that come with a FF camera for the benefits it brings. There are some things Sony needs to improve in the A7xx class (including but not limited to AF accuracy and speed). But more important, they need to fill a gap for those who want to upgrade to or who need to replace that level camera.

And the NEX certainly does not. (It fills an entirely different niche).

tom
 
Jogger said:
In the case of the A700, Sony seems to be skipping any mild refresh and going for the full upgrade. So, it seems like its taking forever to replace the A700. If they had done a mild refresh, people would have complained that not enough was done (some people complained about the D300s).
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But it's a bit different in sony's situation since they've only had the minolta camera division since what summer of 2006. And to not do or say anything about the a700 until now leaving those that bought it hanging while sony has replaced the a200, a300, and a350 twice already after the a700 came out. sony just seems to have been too dedicated to the entry level models and their replacements for said a200, a300, a350 have been the same "mild refreshes" with just changing the body look and real minor updates.
 
cgarrard said:
So the best sensor wins the best camera contest? That's like saying the best 35mm film wins the best camera contest.

And some would argue with you over that sensor being the best as well.

Yes Sony makes good sensors, and yes the sensor in the NEX cameras is good too.

But there's more to a camera than just a sensor, I'm afraid bud. You really didn't mean what you said, did you?
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well Sony also have most of the best lenses as well.
great sensors+ great lenses + good skills then you have the best package.
all the rest that is on a camera and is not mentioned above, is mostly noise....
 
fjbyrne said:
fjbyrne said:
Nikon and Canon do not have any better camera than the A900.
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That is quite debatable. Much depends on what you want. How many pro sport shooters are using an A900?
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The a900 is not a sport camera.

In the field of fashion photography, the vast majority are Canon but there are more A900 than Nikon D3x at the moment. Nikon is almost extinct in the fashion photographers world.
At least in Europe, which is the larger DSLR market in the world.
 
Gionni Dorelli said:
fjbyrne said:
Gionni Dorelli said:
Nikon and Canon do not have any better camera than the A900.
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That is quite debatable. Much depends on what you want. How many pro sport shooters are using an A900?
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The a900 is not a sport camera.
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I agree and that was my point. The original statement was "Nikon and Canon do not have any better camera than the A900". I replied "Much depends on what you want". You can't make blanket statements like the OP did.
Gionni Dorelli said:
In the field of fashion photography, the vast majority are Canon but there are more A900 than Nikon D3x at the moment. Nikon is almost extinct in the fashion photographers world.
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I agree. IMO the A900 is a great studio and landscape camera.

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