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On sony.co.uk and sony.rs in section news for dslr state :
  • Mid-range successor to DSLR-A700 in development
  • More new DSLR models launching in 2010
  • Newly-developed Exmor APS HD CMOS sensor
  • AVCHD format video recording
  • New lenses include Distagon T* 24mm f/2, G 500mm f/4.
Forum is full of A700 successor question and does sony is still have plan for A700 and DSLR commitment after NEX and A700 moved from production last year, if this is not answer for them and patents from last couple of months ( http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2010/0134665.html , http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2009/0303371.html , http://translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fegami.blog.so-net.ne.jp%2F2010-06-14&sl=ja&tl=en and other) then their complaing is much more trolling. May be is A700 discontinuance mistake but may be for sony ExmorHD is not enought for A7xx and want to produce somthing more better.
 
would you please elaborate this I dont get it.

Nikon and Canon do not have any better camera than the A900.

the A900 is the best camera I ever tried.

if you are talking about the D300s and the 7D being a better APS-C than the NEX5.

you are wrong since the NEX has the best sensor and I think Nikon is now crying for it.
fjbyrne said:
pandalee said:
what about you moving to FF , forget about the APS-C , all serious DSLRs would be FULLFRAME from now on since the NEX5 is IQ wise already the ebst APS-C.
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I guess someone forgot to send Canon and Nikon that memo.
fjbyrne said:
Savic76 said:
true, if sony never produce A7xx.
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pandalee said:
what about you moving to FF , forget about the APS-C , all serious DSLRs would be FULLFRAME from now on since the NEX5 is IQ wise already the ebst APS-C.
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There you go ... all anyone needs is a good sensor paired with a mediocre 18-55/3.5-5.6 and a 16/2.8 with soft edges and no IS. (For those extremists who demand something more, $2000 gets you a nice FF).
  • Dennis
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So the best sensor wins the best camera contest? That's like saying the best 35mm film wins the best camera contest.

And some would argue with you over that sensor being the best as well.

Yes Sony makes good sensors, and yes the sensor in the NEX cameras is good too.

But there's more to a camera than just a sensor, I'm afraid bud. You really didn't mean what you said, did you?

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I posted this in another thread. There's alot of people saying that they are scared Sony isn't putting effort into the camera/DSLR market so they aren't sure if they'll stick with Sony.

Has anyone looked at the recent releases? From dpreview's release timeline:

Total cameras released this year: 107

Of those: Sony released 17, Nikon released 8, Canon released 9.

In the DSLR category: Sony released 3, Nikon 0, Canon 1.

Not sure how you can expect Sony to release a new flagship or even an a700 every year. It wouldn't be worth the R&D or the plastic molds just to come out with a replacement product the next year.

Sony is fine. I expect an a7xx to come out later this year. I'd say another year or two for an a9xx to come out.

Calm down friends.
 
then I can say the same logic applies to the A900vs A700.

and one thing we know as an undeniable fact is that all those DSLRs with the mirror will soon be obsolete, the morror less is the future you know that.

the DSLRs will survive until Sony, Panny , Samsung or Canon will figure out better CDAF tech for pro level cam.

only one area the mirrorless cam is lugging behind a good APS-C type body is" AF" but the CDAF of NEX will get better and better and eventually replace all SLR shaped ancient cameras and old 50th techs......

can you imagine the A900 sensor in NEX type od body?

I want that for my landscape work.

without mirror , we dont have to worry about mirror dust or many many silly mirror related camera issues.
cgarrard said:
So the best sensor wins the best camera contest? That's like saying the best 35mm film wins the best camera contest.

And some would argue with you over that sensor being the best as well.

Yes Sony makes good sensors, and yes the sensor in the NEX cameras is good too.

But there's more to a camera than just a sensor, I'm afraid bud. You really didn't mean what you said, did you?

C
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http://www.AlphaMountWorld.com
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pandalee said:
then I can say the same logic applies to the A900vs A700.
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What are you talking about?

Carl
pandalee said:
cgarrard said:
So the best sensor wins the best camera contest? That's like saying the best 35mm film wins the best camera contest.

And some would argue with you over that sensor being the best as well.

Yes Sony makes good sensors, and yes the sensor in the NEX cameras is good too.

But there's more to a camera than just a sensor, I'm afraid bud. You really didn't mean what you said, did you?

C
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http://www.AlphaMountWorld.com
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yeah , so we dont need to get so paranoid about it and even if Sony will not release any serious D-SLR , Sony will release a great mirrorless camera.

the NEX5 is selling no1 in Japan , US and many other countries now.

this is the future and we can not deny it.
Tubal said:
I posted this in another thread. There's alot of people saying that they are scared Sony isn't putting effort into the camera/DSLR market so they aren't sure if they'll stick with Sony.

Has anyone looked at the recent releases? From dpreview's release timeline:

Total cameras released this year: 107

Of those: Sony released 17, Nikon released 8, Canon released 9.

In the DSLR category: Sony released 3, Nikon 0, Canon 1.

Not sure how you can expect Sony to release a new flagship or even an a700 every year. It wouldn't be worth the R&D or the plastic molds just to come out with a replacement product the next year.

Sony is fine. I expect an a7xx to come out later this year. I'd say another year or two for an a9xx to come out.

Calm down friends.
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my point is just like the A700 is a better body than the NEX(besides the sensor, of course) , the A900 is better than the A700 in all areas even the sensor department this time.

so , get the A900 if you need any better body than the A700 from Sony.
cgarrard said:
pandalee said:
then I can say the same logic applies to the A900vs A700.
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What are you talking about?

Carl
Member said:
cgarrard said:
So the best sensor wins the best camera contest? That's like saying the best 35mm film wins the best camera contest.

And some would argue with you over that sensor being the best as well.

Yes Sony makes good sensors, and yes the sensor in the NEX cameras is good too.

But there's more to a camera than just a sensor, I'm afraid bud. You really didn't mean what you said, did you?

C
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http://www.CarlGarrardPhotography.com
http://www.AlphaMountWorld.com
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dont forget there is also the A850 ,which costs only 1600.
Dennis said:
pandalee said:
what about you moving to FF , forget about the APS-C , all serious DSLRs would be FULLFRAME from now on since the NEX5 is IQ wise already the ebst APS-C.
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There you go ... all anyone needs is a good sensor paired with a mediocre 18-55/3.5-5.6 and a 16/2.8 with soft edges and no IS. (For those extremists who demand something more, $2000 gets you a nice FF).
  • Dennis
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Your statements leaves me scratching my head.

1. If the NEX was better than a DSLR, then all the Professionals would be running to get 1, and I do not see that happening.

2. About the dust getting on the mirror, sure that may not be a problem, But there is a sensor. So when you change lenses eventually dust will get there just the same as a DSLR, and the depth to the sensor on the NEX is shallower than that of a DSLR, so dust might be more of a problem on this front, more so than a mirror as the mirror would not effect the image.

3. The NEX has its place, but not the place of replacing a DSLR.

Gene
 
no , better for what?

and the sensor of the NEX is definitely the best ever seen in APS-C format but this does not mean it is a better body than the A700 or D300s or 7D.

though, for people who shoot only landscapes or candid , the NEX is the best APS-C already, I know there are no many sharp primes in the line yet but they will come.

and if ultimate IQ and perofmance is what you are after in this 35mm mount system, you would eventually go full frame or already have gone there any way.

I'd say just get the A850 or A900 and no worry about it for next 3 years if you need the top class IQ in this 35mm format.

and the NEX and A900 make a great kit....

so, IMO,time for the 7D , the D300s class of APS-C high end body is already over and if you need that kind of build , AF and frame rate ,etc , you would have to get a fullframe.....

I was really stupid until the NEX came out , I never took a serious look at Sony system although I was an ex Minolta shooter,so I never knew the A900 a this great camera until this monday.

any way, with the 1D4 being very special exception , after this mirrorless APS-C movement , there will be no more serious APS-C mirrored cameras coming from Sony , Canon and Nikon , this is just my guess but I am quite sure there is not big enough market for that type of cameras any more.............everything becomes smaller not beigger in electronics world.
cgarrard said:
Ok you aren't following me. You said:

"if you are talking about the D300s and the 7D being a better APS-C than the NEX5.

you are wrong since the NEX has the best sensor and I think Nikon is now crying for it. "

You are saying because the NEX has a better sensor it is a better camera? Or are you not saying that, please clarify.

C
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pandalee said:
and the sensor of the NEX is definitely the best ever seen in APS-C format but this does not mean it is better body than the A700 or D300s or 7D.
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How do you quantify it as the best sensor ever seen in APS-C format?
 
Gene Tenold said:
Your statements leaves me scratching my head.

1. If the NEX was better than a DSLR, then all the Professionals would be running to get 1, and I do not see that happening.
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first, I never said it is better at current CD AF tech yet but will be better in this area too.

Sony , Panny and Samsung are not idiot and they will make it work for even a pro class body eventually.

but for now, the FDAF is better and OVF is a bit ebtter than EVF.

(dont underestimate these electronic giants).

however , it wont stay at the same tech level but will quickly improve as Sony, Samsung ,etc will spend a lot of R and D money into this type of camera and AF as it is selling so well.
Gene Tenold said:
2. About the dust getting on the mirror, sure that may not be a problem, But there is a sensor. So when you change lenses eventually dust will get there just the same as a DSLR, and the depth to the sensor on the NEX is shallower than that of a DSLR, so dust might be more of a problem on this front, more so than a mirror as the mirror would not effect the image.
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Well , the dust buster in this camera is much better than these in the DSLRs.

After I tried it for a couple of days , I really shcoked what I was missing , this is a huge thing , a game changer, Sony hit a big homerun.
Gene Tenold said:
3. The NEX has its place, but not the place of replacing a DSLR.
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sure fullframe has its place even after this tiny but excellent new camera.

and most of pros already moved to FFs.
Gene Tenold said:
Gene
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