What's best "paparazzi" etiquette for shooting in public?

On retrospect, [and another boarders advice], I should have tapped
the mom on the shoulder and waved her back, indicating I wanted to
take her family's pic.
I don't feel comfy taking pictures of people on the street. Not sure why.

I'll tell you this though, and I am sure I am not talking for everyone. If I was on a line somewhere and someone I did not know asked me to move so that they could get a shot of my kids I would object. Not sure why, but I can't see myself just stepping back and saying sure.

Ken.

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I agree with this, shoot first or loose a good candid shot BUT! Get
a release form signed, if not do not sell or display the image.
Delete it.
in this country you can be sued for looking at someone the wrong way.
how could they sue you? if they're in public, they have no expectation of privacy.

that's the law.

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I'd be sure to ask the parents. Carry some business cards, ask if
you can send them a print in return for a release. Do you realize
I carry a camera with me everywhere I go. And you best believe I take shots all day long.

Most of the time people have no idea. If I get caught I offer them a card with my email address and phone number on it and say that if they want a copy I can send them an electronic one.

But I don't take photos of children by and large, unless they're with parents. In those cases I don't put them online because I know I wouldn't want my kids online with me knowing about it.

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I would have simply asked if they would mind me taking a
picture of the family, explain why you want to take the picture
and then offer to send them a hi-res copy for themselves via
e-mail..

Sid
At a large farmers market this morning, I was inside their store at
their bakery section, (yes, I did have my cam in hand), while
awaitng my turn, I noticed the perfect "my 3 sons" pic opportunity.
There was a father standing there in front of the glass display
with his oldest next to him, then the middle child, and last in
this horizontal line was the youngest. Perfect symmetry and
decending height scale. They all looked very much alike too. Would
have loved to snap one off. Probably would have, but the mom was
sort of in the way of a clean shot. What should I have done? Kindly
asked the mom to move out of the way?
Steve S--D1X-N5700
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I would've just waited. Some pictures are meant to be, some just aren't. Asking someone to move out is just not apropriate. And I don't mean etiquette, I just mean that it would somehow destroy the atmosphere. Some pics are meant to be, some aren't. Just my humble opinion...

Mig
 
Ah, one of the reasons I bought my 5700. Got tired of looking like
such a tourist with my 2500.
And you don't look like a tourist with a 5700????????

Mig
 
If you ask first, you have destroyed the candidness of the shot.
But if you don't ask, you can be accused of being impolite or
invasive.
I usually pretend I am playing with the swivel LCD. If there's no flash (and no shutter beep, of course), people can't tell. I used to just point-and-shoot, literally, with my Rollei 35, without even looking through the viewfinder. Led to some "shots in the foot", granted...

Mig
 
My general rule when I go ahunting for candids is if I'm spotted I
don't pull the trigger,
As candids go Adorama or Cambron used to sell a great add on that looked like a hood or extention with a 45 degree mirror letting you face away at 90 Deg., your subject wouldn't scare away. I havn't seen one in a long time.
Here is one of my favorite Candids



Taken about 1986 in South Manhattan NYC. In Battery Park while waiting to board the ferry to see the Statue of Liberty.
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Michael
 
I agree with this, shoot first or loose a good candid shot BUT! Get
a release form signed, if not do not sell or display the image.
Delete it.
in this country you can be sued for looking at someone the wrong way.
how could they sue you? if they're in public, they have no
expectation of privacy.

that's the law. > What LAW is that Judge?

YOU ARE WRONG, go ahead and do it your way and someday you may wish you hadn’t. The guy in line at a store is not giving up his privacy. You are invading it, you are a voyeur unless you ask.

Why do you think faces are grayed out in street video shown on TV, It's because the people refused to sign, couldn't be found, were under age or another reason. There are forms that you can buy in tablet form just for this. If you never display or sell the image you likely are O.K. DON"T be a fool.
Boy once an amateur always an amateur.
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Michael
 
YOU ARE WRONG, go ahead and do it your way and someday you may wish you hadn’t. The guy in line at a store is not giving up his privacy. You are invading it, you are a voyeur unless you ask.
Michael
Michael, in this case, your observations are incorrect. Here's a direct quote from the Legal Handbook for Photographers by Bert Krages, Esq (a lawyer who specializes in this field) --- "Photographers have a qualified right to take photographs when in a public place."..."Despite the importance that society places on personal privacy, the law imposes relatively few restrictions on photographing people in public places." What matters is if the owner of the property restricts photography there by posting a public notice forbidding it, if you are judged disruptive to official business by taking your photographs, if the person you want to photograph indicates their photo should not be taken and you take it anyway, if the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy in the location they are in (ie inside a private home), and if your photograph could endanger national security. I don't think Steve's situation in the deli fits any of these.

I am so happy I found this softcover book - it has cleared up many a thorny copyright photography question. I highly recommend it!

Title: Legal Handbook for Photographers: The Rights and Liabilities of Making Images
Author: Bert Krages, Esq
Publisher: Amherst Media, Inc.
Year: 2002
ISBN: 1-58428-059-X

At Amazon.com at http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/158428059X/qid=1034574493/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_1/103-4987000-8963000?v=glance&n=507846

Linda in Kansas City
 
What LAW is that Judge?

YOU ARE WRONG, go ahead and do it your way and someday you may wish you hadn’t. The guy in line at a store is not giving up his privacy. You are invading it, you are a voyeur unless you ask.

Why do you think faces are grayed out in street video shown on TV, It's because the people refused to sign, couldn't be found, were under age or another reason. There are forms that you can buy in tablet form just for this. If you never display or sell the image you likely are O.K. DON"T be a fool.
Boy once an amateur always an amateur.
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Michael
Gotta tell you that I'm glad someone else pointed out that you were wrong before I did. I wouldn't have been nearly as nice.

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I don't feel comfy taking pictures of people on the street. Not
sure why.
I don't do that either. Somehow it does feel intrusive to do so, and in general I don't want to draw attention to myself, and shooting in public places causes attention (well, depends on the place, like in a zoo or something it's not very uncommon, heh). Also it does feel like somehow invading they privacy. More below.
I'll tell you this though, and I am sure I am not talking for
everyone. If I was on a line somewhere and someone I did not know
asked me to move so that they could get a shot of my kids I would
object. Not sure why, but I can't see myself just stepping back and
saying sure.
I don't really like to have my picture taken. That's one reason I don't pictures of other people (with rare exceptions). I wouldn't want anyone to take a picture of me, at least not without asking.

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Teppo @ Finland
 
The candid shots are for my learning and growth, if they were published then that is a different story. Candid is candid and should not offend anyone if they are not of the knowledge they are being photographed.

Sometimes I fiddle with my swival LCD on my cp5k and shoot with a shutter release.

My best candid shots are done when shoting pano's, people seem to be the most candid because they arn't even aware the camera is in use. They think you are rotating the camera looking for that perfect shot and go about their business as usual.
some examples:



 

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