Prints with an UZI...

AllenD · Oct 11, 2002

I have read so much on here about the UZI and how great it is...well yo have peaked my interest in this camera. My question is, does it make good prints? I mean, when I put a pic on a CD and take it to the photo-lab, are the prints good, bad, or indifferent? I printed a couple from my C4000 and I thought they were very good prints...does the UZI being only 3.1 mp hurt prints in any way?

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Regards,

Allen DiLiegro

Pixelizer · Oct 11, 2002

Allen DiLiegro said:
My question
is, does it make good prints? I mean, when I put a pic on a CD and
take it to the photo-lab, are the prints good, bad, or indifferent?
I printed a couple from my C4000 and I thought they were very good
prints...does the UZI being only 3.1 mp hurt prints in any way?

First, you must have meant 2.1 MP, not 3.1.

But, the answer is yes, IF you shoot at 1600 x 1200 and SHQ. Don't try to economize and shoot at lower res and expect great prints (unless you're talking about little 4 x 6's).

I print my own on an HP2000, using HP premium glossy photo paper, and the results are absolutely excellent. I used to process and print my own 35mm and medium format photos in my own darkroom, so I know something about how they should look. You won't be disappointed, as long as the processor doesn't screw them up.

Mike

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C-2100UZ (2!)

neverlostever · Oct 11, 2002

I have never seen a print from my UZI that I didn't like. I always go to a lab, usually Sam's club, sometimes Walmart, sometimes Walmart.com. I usually do 4x6, I always shoot SHQ 1600x1200 and I usually do this processing:

crop to 4x6
resize to 250dpi at 4x6

The few 8x10s I have done are just fine as well. I have even used the UZI to copy a 5x7 print from a film (I think) camera and made a very nice looking 8x10.

2.1Mp is fine for 4x6 and pretty good for 8x10s as well.

Allen DiLiegro said:
I have read so much on here about the UZI and how great it
is...well yo have peaked my interest in this camera. My question
is, does it make good prints? I mean, when I put a pic on a CD and
take it to the photo-lab, are the prints good, bad, or indifferent?
I printed a couple from my C4000 and I thought they were very good
prints...does the UZI being only 3.1 mp hurt prints in any way?

--
Regards,

Allen DiLiegro

--
Bob,
never lost -- ever
Oly C2100-UZ, Oly D-40Z, Oly XA (the original D-40!)

Jculp · Oct 12, 2002

I print 8x10's on my epson 780 with Epson Matte glossy paper. I only shoot in HQ. The people that look at them are amazed, not by the shot composition or the subjects themselves but at the quality of the prints.

I dont have a film camera to compare 8x10's with, but the Uzi 4x6's look better to me than anything I took with a 35mm camera I used to use. Of course that is comparing a 5 year old $300 fuji camera to an UZI, which may not be fair.

neverlostever said:
crop to 4x6
resize to 250dpi at 4x6

The few 8x10s I have done are just fine as well. I have even used
the UZI to copy a 5x7 print from a film (I think) camera and made a
very nice looking 8x10.

2.1Mp is fine for 4x6 and pretty good for 8x10s as well.

Allen DiLiegro said:

I have read so much on here about the UZI and how great it
is...well yo have peaked my interest in this camera. My question
is, does it make good prints? I mean, when I put a pic on a CD and
take it to the photo-lab, are the prints good, bad, or indifferent?
I printed a couple from my C4000 and I thought they were very good
prints...does the UZI being only 3.1 mp hurt prints in any way?

--
Regards,

Allen DiLiegro

Click to expand...

--
Bob,
never lost -- ever
Oly C2100-UZ, Oly D-40Z, Oly XA (the original D-40!)

Charles Rettner · Oct 12, 2002

Yxix :

We seem to have made all the same choices. I know this is an aside, but try Ofiice Max's own brand of Pro Glossy paper. 75 sheets for $29.99, every bit as good as the HP with that combo.

CharlieR
UZi & EZi, A-200, HP2000C

RichardMor · Oct 12, 2002

UZi & EZi, A-200, HP2000C> >

Charlie - may I take this one step further? Since you own
both the UZi and EZi, would you comment on the photo
print quality of the EZi, also? How does it compare to the
prints made from the UZi? Comparable or is there a definite
visual difference?
Thaanks,
Richard
Seattle, WA

Zephalephelah · Oct 12, 2002

I shoot nature scenes and as an experiment, I tried the same scene with SHQ and TIFF, because I didn't think there would be that much of a difference, but I had to know.

Boy was I wrong. I shoot everything in TIFF now. Everything else just looks flat from the colors to the sharpness of the image. I printed a 8x10 of a mountain from a TIFF and it comes close to photographic quality. Awesome!! But SHQ doesn't. So the moral of this story is to get a laptop

because if you want the best pictures you have to use TIFF, and TIFF eats up memory.

Jculp said:
I dont have a film camera to compare 8x10's with, but the Uzi 4x6's
look better to me than anything I took with a 35mm camera I used to
use. Of course that is comparing a 5 year old $300 fuji camera to
an UZI, which may not be fair.

neverlostever said:

crop to 4x6
resize to 250dpi at 4x6

The few 8x10s I have done are just fine as well. I have even used
the UZI to copy a 5x7 print from a film (I think) camera and made a
very nice looking 8x10.

2.1Mp is fine for 4x6 and pretty good for 8x10s as well.

Allen DiLiegro said:

I have read so much on here about the UZI and how great it
is...well yo have peaked my interest in this camera. My question
is, does it make good prints? I mean, when I put a pic on a CD and
take it to the photo-lab, are the prints good, bad, or indifferent?
I printed a couple from my C4000 and I thought they were very good
prints...does the UZI being only 3.1 mp hurt prints in any way?

--
Regards,

Allen DiLiegro

Click to expand...

--
Bob,
never lost -- ever
Oly C2100-UZ, Oly D-40Z, Oly XA (the original D-40!)

Click to expand...

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If a picture paints a 1,000 words, how come mine only make 3?

Leo · Oct 12, 2002

Allen,

It really depends on DPI. The UZI is 1600x1200. You may hold a photo printed as 160 DPI as close as 24” (two feet) and it will look just great. The photo size in this case is 10”x7.5”. You would have to step back to 4-5 fee to view a photo printed as 80 DPI and for photo printed as 50 DPI you better be as far as 8 feet from the photo to view it. But the photo size at 50 DPI will be 30 inches wide – it is a POSTER that should be viewed from a distance. Resizing helps to make the image a bit smoother but does not improve its detail level. The increased number of the printed image REAL pixels helps. Lets say you have UZI with a sensor 3200x2400 instead of 1600x1200 That would help !!!!! but move up from 1600x1200 to 2048x1580 would not be very impressive.
My opinion based on my experience 
Leo

Allen DiLiegro said:
I have read so much on here about the UZI and how great it
is...well yo have peaked my interest in this camera. My question
is, does it make good prints? I mean, when I put a pic on a CD and
take it to the photo-lab, are the prints good, bad, or indifferent?
I printed a couple from my C4000 and I thought they were very good
prints...does the UZI being only 3.1 mp hurt prints in any way?

--
Regards,

Allen DiLiegro

gsjaa · Oct 12, 2002

Zephalephelah wrote:
So the moral of

Zephalephelah said:
this story is to get a laptop because if you want the best
pictures you have to use TIFF, and TIFF eats up memory.

are there any items like 'digital wallet' which take in smart media cards and have gb's of memory? that would save us from buying and lugging a laptop around?

gsjaa

Darren Young · Oct 13, 2002

Allen DiLiegro said:
I printed a couple from my C4000 and I thought they were very good
prints...does the UZI being only 2.1 mp hurt prints in any way?

Allen -- If you're willing to wade thru a bunch of discussion re: print sizing and reading distance, I think you'll find some helpful info in this conversation we had here on the Forum about, oh, six months back:

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1008&message=2615236

I had a 20"x30" print made from a SHQ UZI file, and it turned out astoundingly well. the whole story and the details/whys/wherefors are in that thread. Hope it helps!

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AllenD said:
Darren

'When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.' -- Hunter S. Thompson

pegaguo · Oct 13, 2002

The UZI printouts are great. I gave two printouts (8*11) of my trip to Stockholm to my colleague and his wife framed them both the same day.

~~Vivian~~

Allen DiLiegro said:
I have read so much on here about the UZI and how great it
is...well yo have peaked my interest in this camera. My question
is, does it make good prints? I mean, when I put a pic on a CD and
take it to the photo-lab, are the prints good, bad, or indifferent?
I printed a couple from my C4000 and I thought they were very good
prints...does the UZI being only 3.1 mp hurt prints in any way?

--
Regards,

Allen DiLiegro

Jculp · Oct 13, 2002

Today I had a chance to get some shots with a couple of new 35mm SLR's, the short story is that they looked very much better than what I got from my UZI in HQ.
Here is a thread I started with the full story.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1008&message=3565046

Jculp said:
I dont have a film camera to compare 8x10's with, but the Uzi 4x6's
look better to me than anything I took with a 35mm camera I used to
use. Of course that is comparing a 5 year old $300 fuji camera to
an UZI, which may not be fair.

neverlostever said:

crop to 4x6
resize to 250dpi at 4x6

The few 8x10s I have done are just fine as well. I have even used
the UZI to copy a 5x7 print from a film (I think) camera and made a
very nice looking 8x10.

2.1Mp is fine for 4x6 and pretty good for 8x10s as well.

Allen DiLiegro said:

I have read so much on here about the UZI and how great it
is...well yo have peaked my interest in this camera. My question
is, does it make good prints? I mean, when I put a pic on a CD and
take it to the photo-lab, are the prints good, bad, or indifferent?
I printed a couple from my C4000 and I thought they were very good
prints...does the UZI being only 3.1 mp hurt prints in any way?

--
Regards,

Allen DiLiegro

Click to expand...

--
Bob,
never lost -- ever
Oly C2100-UZ, Oly D-40Z, Oly XA (the original D-40!)

Click to expand...

Adrian Langford · Oct 14, 2002

Allen DiLiegro said:
I have read so much on here about the UZI and how great it
is...well yo have peaked my interest in this camera. My question
is, does it make good prints? I mean, when I put a pic on a CD and
take it to the photo-lab, are the prints good, bad, or indifferent?
I printed a couple from my C4000 and I thought they were very good
prints...does the UZI being only 3.1 mp hurt prints in any way?

--
Regards,

Allen DiLiegro

--
Allen,

I'm getting great prints up to 10 x 7.5 using Epson 890 printer and Epson Premium Semi-Gloss. This isn't me being big-headed - it's based on the reactions I get to the prints when i show them to very keen film photographers. Of course 2.1MP doesn't allow much leeway for cropping, and you won't get the fine detail you may want for subjects like landscapes.

Photo-lab prints from my wife's Oly 490Z (990 here in UK and also 2.1MP) at 4x6 are also excellent - better than she obtained from 35mm in the past.

Hope this helps,

Adrian

johnd1 · Oct 14, 2002

The c2100UZ will produce very good 8X10 prints.

SHQ is a bit better (very hard to see the difference) for heavy post processing,but to be honest my best (knock your socks off) 8X10 prints happened to be mostly taken in HQ mode. (more compression).

You must learn how to properly expose your shots to allow a good print to be produced ,especially in larger 8X10 prints.

IMO,this is more important than compression quality differences between SHQ and HQ.
John

Pixelizer said:
But, the answer is yes, IF you shoot at 1600 x 1200 and SHQ. Don't
try to economize and shoot at lower res and expect great prints
(unless you're talking about little 4 x 6's).

I print my own on an HP2000, using HP premium glossy photo paper,
and the results are absolutely excellent. I used to process and
print my own 35mm and medium format photos in my own darkroom, so I
know something about how they should look. You won't be
disappointed, as long as the processor doesn't screw them up.

Mike

--
C-2100UZ (2!)

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