POLL - What are the next Nikon FX ƒ4 VR Zooms?

personally i wouldn't mind seen a 70-200 f/4 with comprable quality to canon's f/4L... with or without VR... at a modest price. i think that would be killer. i like my 70-300 VR, a lot, but i REALLY liked my old 70-200 f/4L... and the IS version of that is supposedly even better...

for $600 i think i'd rather have a 70-200 f/4 than a 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 VR...
 
personally i wouldn't mind seen a 70-200 f/4 with comprable quality to canon's f/4L... with or without VR... at a modest price.
I am so sorry I sold my 70-200/4.

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None of those zoom ranges, those are all far too odd. What emax said would probably be the most correct, something to be competing with Canon (24-105/4, 70-200/4).

But then again, why does Nikon need to make these lenses? They are slower, cheaper, cover a little more range... ugh. Nikon already has a $1000 70-200... it's called the 80-200/2.8D, lol. Why get a slower lens with VR and pay more?

What nikon needs to concentrate on is their primes.

35/1.4 AF-S
50/1.2 or 1.4 AF-S (larger, heavier, better bokeh, sharper, better AF)
85/1.4 AF-S
105 and/or 135/2 AF-S
180/2.8 AF-S

All those lenses are currently AI-S or AF-D, lol. Designs that are 10+ years old. They need an overhaul.
 
Poll time! What will be the FX ƒ4 VR Trinity? (All options are ƒ4 VRII)
Seems pretty clear to me: simply Nikon versions of the two Canon zooms I used to own until I jumped ship: 24-105 L IS and 70-200 L IS.

These are so useful especially if you mount the standard zoom on an FX camera, and the tele zoom to a DX camera and have a 105-300 FOV with a light and compact unit.
 
24-105 ($999)
70-200 ($1399)

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I don't know what they will be, although I think something like a 24-105/120 will be next.

The two I would like to see are a 24-85 and a 80-200 to give compact size and the highest possible optical quality at f4. Unfortunately as with the Canon f4's, with the exception of the 70-200 which even so is nowhere near the stated focal range being actually 74-189 mm, and the recent Nikon 16-35; I think marketing will triumph over engineering and we will end up with lenses of a wide focal length range which have poor edge quality at one or both ends of their focal ranges.
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Nikon has the terrific 16-85 for DX and NOTHING comparable for FX. The 24-105 is the most logical addition.

I hear the clarion call for primes frequently and wonder what the sales numbers are for primes vs zooms. I used primes exclusively until I got the 16-85 (w/D90). Good primes too - 20/2.8, 28/2.8, 55/2.8 Micro, 105/2.5 and 200/4 (non-macro) and would never go back (all shot with F2A and F3HP). Unless a prime is a macro or long telephoto, zooms are much more convenient. Unless, that is, they are Nikon's pro f2.8 zooms, which are just too big. Why they'll make a 24-105/4.
 
for $600 i think i'd rather have a 70-200 f/4 than a 70-300 f/4.5-5.6 VR...
Sure.
But don't hold your breath waiting for one for $600.

The Canon 70-200 f/4 is $1200:

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/457678-USA/Canon_1258B002AA_EF_70_200mm_f_4L_IS.html

Hard to imagine that a Nikon counterpart would be $600.

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The Canon 70-200 f4 is ~ $600.

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/183198-USA/Canon_2578A002_EF_70_200mm_f_4L_USM.html
 
I think the two that are wanted by many are the 24-105f4 and the 70-200f4. I think something near these focal lengths will be in the works eventually. Why? There is too much money to be made! There is a whole group of people that want less weight and high quality imaging at less than the price of the 2.8 zooms.
A 70-200 f4 VR2 of high imaging quality would immediately go on my wish list.

The Canon 70-200 f4 IS is apparently a very exceptional piece of glass (one of Canon's best zooms ever) for around $1200. It would be wonderful to have something like this for Nikon. I predict a price of $1200.00 to $1400.00 for a 70-200 f4 VR2.

Ron
 
I don't think anyone would complain about a non VR 70-200 f4 with the astonishing optical quality of the Canon for less than $600.

It may be that Nikon will not be able to match the quality of Canon's IS version, no matter what the price.

Nikon could improve on the performance of a 24-105 f4 Canon IS, though, which is a good, but not great lens.
 
Those who talk don't know.
Those who know don't talk.
 
There was a loud chorus of people complaining loudly about the 14-24 and 24-70 not having VR. These are lenses that don't really have a great need for it (though they are quite a bit more expensive than the Canon 70-200f4 non-IS), but too many people think every lens must have this feature. Personally, if given the choice between a VR version for $1200 or a non-VR with the same image quality for $600, there'd be no hesitationfor me in saving $600.
 
But then again, why does Nikon need to make these lenses? They are slower, cheaper, cover a little more range... ugh. Nikon already has a $1000 70-200... it's called the 80-200/2.8D, lol. Why get a slower lens with VR and pay more?
Weight. When you're backpacking in the wilderness with your tent, camping gear, and spare clothes you need to minimize the weight of every little item. If you're only photographing landscapes, f/2.8 is useless and the extra weight unwelcome.

Even if you're photographing a group of animals or an animal in its environment, you can often get away with f/4. And if you're really photographing animals seriously, you'll probably have something like the 200-400/4 or 500/4, in which case since you can shoot with these at f/4 or smaller (you have to), there's no reason the f/4 would not cut it also in the 70-200 range in the same conditions you're working in. The f/2.8 is again weight in the wrong place.

I am a people photographer first and foremost and f/2.8 is slow for me, but I make do with f/2.8 zooms and faster primes. For me, the f/4 in the 70-200 or 24-105 would often be a problem and so I am not waiting for these. However, when I'm backpacking and photographing landscapes e.g. in Lapland, for sure the f/4 versions would be very helpful.

Also, some people prefer more range than the 24-70mm gives in a standard zoom. 70mm is too short for a head shot (on FX) so a 24-105 might be a good lens to use in the studio when working rapidly with groups and individuals. For me, again, no; I prefer the brighter viewfinder a faster lens gives and the more options in terms of depth of field and use of available light.
What nikon needs to concentrate on is their primes.
They don't. Few people use primes.

Those lenses you mention would certainly be appreciated by me, but we can't speak for the majority of photographers.
 

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