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Pictures I Am Sick And Tired Of Seeing

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Jukka Jarnberg said:
Mike Roberts wrote:
Well, Mike, no good not one picture of kitty on your galleries
makes this fellow to cry :)

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Ahhhhhhh. Ain't he cute.

Actually, until recently when photo.net got mad at me for having so many pictures on their site and I had to remove some, I had a close-up of one of my cat's (Emma) belly taken the first night I had my camera. That's right! Two boring subjects in one picture. Since I as an early adopter and this was my first ever camera with any manual controls I feel I should be forgiven.

Maybe this will make him feel better.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=414533

Mike Roberts

P.S. I'm not kidding about the shot or photo.net.
 
Real men hate baby photos.
Mike Roberts said:
This is for all the folks out there who, just like me, spend too
much time on the Web reading about photography and looking at
people's pictures trying to get better at this thing of ours.

I am guilty of several of these. Just go here to see.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/user?user_id=378035

In no particular order...
  • Cats
Kittens are more tolerable except when in something like a basket
or if bows of any sort are involved. Pictures of my cats prove they
are, of course, the absolute best ever. Do you want to see some?
  • Antelope Canyon
It is a million variations of about 4 different shots (the basic
well exposed shot, the shaft of light shot, bright areas and nearly
black sections, ring of black around a bright area). Do we really
need 1,000,000 different photographers from everywhere in the world
going there when just about every square inch for 500 miles in
every direction is the most fantastical landscape on the planet?
Of course, 99% time you can bet your going to see Bryce Canyon and
probably Zion in the same set of photos. I'm just saying. :)
  • First Pictures With New Camera
If your are an early adopter its your duty to post early pictures
though the first are often not the really worthy of the time.
Everyone else is just being lame. I am fairly certain I did this,
too. :)
  • Flowers
Ok. If I haven't seen every type of ornamental flower on the planet
at least 20 times I would be surprised.
  • Large Chested Models From Eastern Europe
To be truthful I am not really sick of these, but am just worried
that the increased population density of large chested models from
Eastern Europe caused by the number of Eastern European
photographers on photo.sig will some how destabilize the Earth's
orbit and send us all plummeting into the Sun. I guess that would,
at least, solve the Iraq problem in a fair and even manner.
  • Backyard Birds (possibly only those of North America)
Same problem as flowers. We may have literally seen all the
hummingbirds in the USA. Lets just lump squirrels in here and get
it over with.
  • Sunrise/Sunset Without Any Other Subject
Just follow this simple rule: Don't take pictures of the sunrise
and sunset, take pictures of SOMETHING at sunrise or sunset.
  • Bees/Dragonflys/Lady Bugs/Praying Mantisses
There are maybe 6 million species of insects of which 2000 are
Mantisses, 4000 are Lady Bugs, 5000 are Dragonflies, and about
35,000 are Bees. How about a more pictures of the other 5, 964,000
species.

Mike Roberts
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Well I'm pretty boring Mike, but I try and capture insect's doing something different and also closer than most. Macro is all I have really done for over 30 years but do know exactly what you mean and I tend to agree. Pictures of sunset's are my personal pet hate with digital camera's. I think we all know about how easy it is now to saturate and add contrast to sunset shot's and I just hate them. Never comment on them, they just seem to be getting overdone and it's pretty obvious that they are not natural and not how the eye's see it.

All the best Mike and only IMHO.

Danny.

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Macro, what a world.
.............................
http://www.macrophotos.com
 
Hang in there, Bill. Most of us shoot primarily for fun, not for art. It's just that the artists like to belittle us.
Bill Brosen said:
Sounds to me like your just sick and tired......me, being a newbie
to photography, my photos may not inspire you or be very original,
but I have fun taking them, editing them and learning as I
go...perhaps its no longer fun for you?
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--
Bob
D60, CP5700, CP4500
 
Brave or stupid. Hard to tell the two apart. :)
nzmacro said:
Well I'm pretty boring Mike, but I try and capture insect's doing
something different and also closer than most. Macro is all I have
really done for over 30 years but do know exactly what you mean and
I tend to agree.
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Ah, but see, in your 'but' you reveal that, at least on some level, you understand the common thread of the overdone image. Good images reveal a dialogue. Some dialogues have been fully explored (or at least it appears so). An image with no dialogue is just a picture. And, just like sci-fi movies, the special effects (in your case, extreme macros) sometimes add a great deal to a subject for the first few movies you see them in, but after you've seen the same thing enough times or something better, ho hum.
nzmacro said:
Pictures of sunset's are my personal pet hate with digital camera's. I

think we all know about how easy it is now to saturate and add contrast > to sunset shot's and I just hate them. Never comment on them, they

just seem to be getting overdone and it's pretty obvious that they are > not natural and not how the eye's see it.
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I never have a problem with any form of editing (the intended use of the image does matter, though).

My problem with sunrise/sunset shots mostly stems from the fact that, except in the rare cases where the sky is filled with interesting clouds (if the clouds are along the horizon then a 'fake' mural (long rectangular crop) can greatly improve a boring sunset shot), the sky is not a subject, but a background (and a time period/moment). While the colors of the sky are a cool they (usually) are just not a good subject in and of themself. In reality the great sunset shots always have 1) an interesting foreground subject (a palm tree, a boat coming in or going out, etc.), 2) an interesting sky subject (birds, wild cloud formations, etc.).

Good images tend to show an interaction between subjects (2 cats are better than 1 :), a praying mantis sneaking up on its next meal, a horse and rider, etc.), subject and environment (a macro covered in bee pollen doing her work (and just for you, an extreme closeup, http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=318325 (does anyone want to buy a print? :) ), an old building in a field with a background of mountains), or create an interaction between the subject and the viewer (I think this is probably only possible with an image that contains a face or a symbolic face, i.e. naked chicks giving you that look, biker dudes glaring at the camera, the back of an old Volkswagen Beetle covered in snow looking like someone sleeping, some of your extreme macros probably fall in here because an alien looking fly face is still a face, etc.).

As usual, there is an exception - abstracts. However, just like traditional abstract art (hee, hee, heeeeeeee), the best tap into a feeling/mood not through imagery, but through form, color, contrast, etc.

None of this has to do with personal photos for their dialogue is between the owner (not always the maker) of the image and the past the image represents.

Of course, I am full of bee ca-ca.

Mike Roberts
 
Mike Roberts said:
Ahhhhhhh. Ain't he cute.

Actually, until recently when photo.net got mad at me for having so
many pictures on their site and I had to remove some, I had a
close-up of one of my cat's (Emma) belly taken the first night I
had my camera. That's right! Two boring subjects in one picture.
Since I as an early adopter and this was my first ever camera with
any manual controls I feel I should be forgiven.

Maybe this will make him feel better.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=414533

Mike Roberts

P.S. I'm not kidding about the shot or photo.net.
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Great one Mike

Jukka
 
One very fine sharp butt shot it is Mike. Do you mind if I use it. Full credits of course.

See what I mean about unusual Mike. It breaks out of the square (cube you call it I think). Something people don't expect to see it. That butt's factory page is one of the most popular. You will see I don't really have a problem with manipulation either, but for me my line is drawn at false colour's and contrast. I'm a nature freak.

Where it comes in, is that really macro is all I know and all I have really wanted to know. Boring but a fact. Do I get bored at looking at macro galleries day in and day out. Only when we see a bee in the same profile time and time again. Closer allows for new views. Behaviour shot's are never boring IMHO, it alway's tell's a story. If an image can speak for itself or make someone understand what they don't already, then it's doing it's job and well worth the "Click". Every shot is different but can be as boring as the last and all the other's, yes.

Anyway as you can see, I find it very interesting in how we all "see".

All the best Mike and BTW, one brilliant butt shot :-))

--
Macro, what a world.
.............................
http://www.macrophotos.com
 
nzmacro said:
One very fine sharp butt shot it is Mike. Do you mind if I use it.
Full credits of course.
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Yes, you can use it, but only with the title 'Beeautiful Beehind". :)

Also, let me eMail you a better version that I have around somewhere (probably take me a couple of days). One where I didn't enhance the noise and has been run through NeatImage. (Anyone have NeatImage problems with XP?).
nzmacro said:
See what I mean about unusual Mike. It breaks out of the square
(cube you call it I think). Something people don't expect to see
it. That butt's factory page is one of the most popular. You will
see I don't really have a problem with manipulation either, but for
me my line is drawn at false colour's and contrast. I'm a nature
freak.
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Extreme false colour is tough to do well. My rule is as long as it looks natural I don't care if it is natural. Funny thing since I value the D7 for its color accuracy since that is probably the best starting point and I am red-green color deficient (my usual rule is to avoid any radical color changes because I MAY not know if they are wrong (watchout though, I have been playing with Saturation a bit lately :0 ).

A pink cheetah with brown spots walking across the fuscia grass while the sky turns a grapefruitish pink under a black sun doesn't sound like it would look any good, but how will we know if no one goes there. (CHALLENGE! CHALLENGE! CHALLENGE! - First one gets a cookie! Best one gets 2!! (I judge.))
nzmacro said:
Where it comes in, is that really macro is all I know and all I
have really wanted to know. Boring but a fact. Do I get bored at
looking at macro galleries day in and day out. Only when we see a
bee in the same profile time and time again. Closer allows for new
views. Behaviour shot's are never boring IMHO, it alway's tell's a
story. If an image can speak for itself or make someone understand
what they don't already, then it's doing it's job and well worth
the "Click". Every shot is different but can be as boring as the
last and all the other's, yes.
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Amen!
nzmacro said:
Anyway as you can see, I find it very interesting in how we all "see".
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The blind leading the blind. ;)
nzmacro said:
All the best Mike and BTW, one brilliant butt shot :-))
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Thank you.

Mike Roberts
 
Jukka Jarnberg said:
Mike Roberts said:
Ahhhhhhh. Ain't he cute.

Actually, until recently when photo.net got mad at me for having so
many pictures on their site and I had to remove some, I had a
close-up of one of my cat's (Emma) belly taken the first night I
had my camera. That's right! Two boring subjects in one picture.
Since I as an early adopter and this was my first ever camera with
any manual controls I feel I should be forgiven.

Maybe this will make him feel better.
http://www.photo.net/photodb/photo?photo_id=414533

Mike Roberts

P.S. I'm not kidding about the shot or photo.net.
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Great one Mike
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Thanks.

Mike Roberts
 
Sorry Mike,

Something went squirly with the links here they are, backyard visitor and through the living room window respectively
http://www.pbase.com/image/5768138
http://www.pbase.com/image/5768381
Mike Roberts said:
StillRob said:
Thanks for the wonderfull discourse and fun
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Your welcome. Beware! I feel a series coming on. :]
Mike Roberts said:
Here is my contribution of a shot from the backyard animal shot,
it's not a squirrel, I think.

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Neither of your links (the 2nd is in the 2nd post) is working, but
I assume that is pbase.com's fault.

Mike Roberts
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--
Rob
http://www.pbase.com/photorob
 
StillRob said:
Sorry Mike,
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No need to apologize.
StillRob said:
Something went squirly with the links here they are, backyard
visitor and through the living room window respectively
http://www.pbase.com/image/5768138
http://www.pbase.com/image/5768381
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Ha, ha! I thought I was going to see pictures of squirrels. :)

As a critique going along with the bent of this thread I wonder what the other pictures from these encounters are like. Do you have any where the subject is not looking at the camera? Or a butt shot for nzmacro's series.

Mike Roberts
 
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