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Peace Agreement
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ukdelboy
Leading Member
There you go again, making a false allegation with the intention of causing trouble. Have you no shame?
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Del
ukdelboy
Leading Member
Great shot of a cardboard box full of plastic fruit. Us DSLR guy's would certainly be in trouble trying to capture that one. Wonderful shot...keep em coming!
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Stephen 06
Veteran Member
Take a sweet out of the jar and join the club. You're catching on....slowly. We ALL know that. That's why I have a DSLR. That why I stated in a post to you that I didn't buy it for speed over a DSLR....but for speed over a P&S in a smaller package to a DSLR for holidays. And that it is.
It blows the HS10 outta the water.... and it crucifies your PF machine and non-stabilsed-poor wide angled-poor dynamic ranged F30. I know, I had one. Still have one (F31). Don't even touch it...obsolete in this day and age. Ah but at least you can stick it in your trouser pocket to keep everything else company and warm! LOL.
The only thing I refuted was your claim with the NX10 was its write speeds. You openly admit to taking your info from a review that used by an older update. It is wrong. From Samsung website on update:
□ We added EVF selection function on the AMOLED displayed menu.
□ We added MF Asist On/Off selection function.
□ We added MF usage function while using K-Mount Adapter.
□ We improved Auto White Balance function of Low color temperature condition.
□ We improved SD Card Read/Write speed.
□ System stablization
As of yet, DPR hasn't updated their review of the NX10 to reflect all these changes. So you are passing on wrong secondhand information.
Come to my rescue? They haven't in any way intervened in this conversation at all. Actually, John isn't even involved in this thread. See how you hullucinate? You need to stop taking whatever it is you are taking.
Seems like the only word in your vocabulary.....derailing. Are you a railway signalman by any chance?
Nope. The discussion was about fanboy wild comments/claims and about people not backing up those accusations about the fanboys. Ironically, just like you are doing in this post with me. See how the tables have turned LOL! It's your the fanboy basher now....and without proof. You call me a fanboy and have yet to disprove anything I said with credible proof.
Also I kept on topic and posted a photo to show such happenings. I even tagged your name on it for your attention. But you actually ducked out of responding to it. Instead, it's you who went off in another direction of derailment when your goose was cooked.
Yeah? care to back it up?....you look for others to do so.
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Stephen
ukdelboy
Leading Member
Yatiyatiya... You're such a fanboy you just can't accept the facts.
Fact is the NX10 is still slow compared to a DSLR even with FW update or not.
Just learn to accept that and move on.
Here are the factual history of what happened on that thread :
- You said that the HS10 is slow compared to a DSLR.
- I said you should not compare to DSLR. Even the likes of NX10 is slow in comparison and showed you facts.
- You went ballistic when DPR facts shows that the NX10 is as slow as HS10.
- You went out all your way and took pictures, tests and what not to prove DPR wrong because you said FW has been updated.
- I said it doesn't matter. Update or not the NX10 is still slow compared to a DSLR. Point proven.
- You wrote a full page thesis blabbering about why the NX10 is so much better than the HS10.
- I said that it is not about NX10 vs HS10, it is about why you should not compare to a DSLR.
- I said facts are facts and even with a FW update the NX10 is still slow compared to a DSLR and that can't be denied. That was the original point.
- Not sure but perhaps you went postal after that as that thread got deleted. Either that or you post too much blabber that's not related to the OP.
Suuuure... then why even mention their names in this discussion. It is obvious yer looking for backup. LOL! "I'm gonna git my big big brothas to beat ya' up."... pathetic move really.
The word is a verb. Again your question is silly and it doesn't make any sense or connection. But I'm sure yer ganna use this in the future and say "You don't answer all my questions!". But really, look it up, it is exactly what you do as you are doing now.
Yatiyatiya... perfect example of derailment. Even twisting things around. Doing what the Big Boys do. LOL!
Another attempt on drailment. This is not your issue. If that person want's to contest what I said then let that person do the asking.
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Kim Letkeman
Veteran Member
This argument is becoming rather personal ... after a while, arrogance is its own reward I suppose.
Sorry, but there is no tag team here. None of us have ever communicated on the back channel.
What you do see, though, is a whole lot of intelligent people who think you are in this just to exercise your intellect. The arrogance of many of your answers is an obvious tip-off.
Of course, such thick condescension is the most common method on this forum of baiting. But since the argument has gone for a long while, it is too late to call it for what it is. First person to complain gets us all banned.
I have a clear vision of you standing up and beating your chest with both fists after typing that ... and of course it is unlikely to be true ... I sure do not remember such a thing, but your perpetual arrogance is absolutely unforgettable.
We've seen your style many time in this forum ... there is always someone willing to carry that flag ...
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Really? Personal in what way? If you are referring to as what's quoted then read again who mentioned it. If you are referring about calling someone a "fanboy", look again who throws those words incessantly.
And I wonder who seeks those rewards? It sure ain't me.
Ahahaha! So as long as there is no back channel communication then it is not considered a tag team. Thumbs up! Besides, how would one know if no "back channel" actions were committed. How did you zone in into this discussion?... NVM, you were probably just browsing. I'll just take your word for it.
So if an intelligent person excercises his intellect it is arrogance. Right on. So who are the guilty of such? Is this what you call "the pot calling the kettle black"?
Baiting, really? Come on Kim, you know that kind of feeble argument won't work on me. I'm not the one who makes mountains out of mole hills here. Why do you think you guys get banned left and right? If I have done such offense then I should have been banned for it. Speaking of such, what is more offensive than complaining is false accusation and that is what started this whole fiasco.
No I don't do that. But you know, a person usually imagine what others do as he does.
What made you think it was you then? I did not mention any names. "Perpetual arrogance", nice... I like that. "Pot kettle black" I like that too.
Of course you've seen my style, I've been here a while. And what kind of flag are you talking about? Don't be vague, just spit it out.
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Silent Oracle
Veteran Member
Roy....I'm giggling here as this is just silly. I would advise letting this go as it looks like - at least to me, that you are baiting Kim.
Nothing personal - just a friendly suggestion and something to think about.
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Silent Oracle
Nothing personal - just a friendly suggestion and something to think about.
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Silent Oracle
Stephen 06
Veteran Member
Obviously....... when you have no names to mention or no proof to back it up. For the second time i'm calling your bluff. Name the person you tutored and link us to the post. It's not that hard....even for you. Your just bluffing like you were bluffing in your doctered dodgy crop test. But we called you out on that one quite easy, too.
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Stephen
Kim Letkeman
Veteran Member
You are never the one ...
You did not mean anyone in particular when you used derogatory language aorund the "big boys" ... although I was explicitly named as one ...
I am tired of the little games you play and this will be my last response to you. As it is, I am likely banned first thing tomorrow for participating in the farce your ego has driven in this thread.
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You did not mean anyone in particular when you used derogatory language aorund the "big boys" ... although I was explicitly named as one ...
I am tired of the little games you play and this will be my last response to you. As it is, I am likely banned first thing tomorrow for participating in the farce your ego has driven in this thread.
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Sorry to say Silent Oracle but I am not the one who brought up their names in this discussion. If anyone is guilty of such, blame it on the person that brought it up in the first place.
Also I did not name any names and even if I have been specific why would that be baiting? No that is not baiting at all. False accusation, unjustified name calling, taunting, teasing... now those are considered baiting just to name a few.
It's ok. None taken.Nothing personal - just a friendly suggestion and something to think about.
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So why is this so important to you? Is this another attempt to derail the main issue?
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I finally saw Transformers 2 so I'm viewing the world through that lens.
Not actually suggesting this is a dust up of good vs. evil, though it has spilled over from one cosmic thread to another, drawing in other suns with its gravitational pull.
Perhaps you're right, that it's best to stay out or you may lose access to the All Spark.
I finally saw Transformers 2 so I'm viewing the world through that lens.
Not actually suggesting this is a dust up of good vs. evil, though it has spilled over from one cosmic thread to another, drawing in other suns with its gravitational pull.
Perhaps you're right, that it's best to stay out or you may lose access to the All Spark.
You throw that in there like I'm the one who made that label. Read the entire thread and you'll see who said "Big Boys" and who it is who mentioned your name. You are blaming this on the wrong guy.
If this upsets you then please address it to the guilty one.
I don't play any games. I am responding to silly attacks on me. And why would you be banned? If it is any comfort to you, and to be clear, I never once have pressed the complain or ignore buttons here ever and never will. I don't have "back channels" either nor do I bait. No need for those, I can handle myself.
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Stephen 06
Veteran Member
Fact is, you can't read english. Not alone did I agree with the above in a previous thread that got deleated, I agreed with you in my last post too. Will I put it in caps this time for you to clarify it better? THAT THE NX10 WAS S-L-O-W-E-R THAN A DSLR. I DIDN'T BUY IT FOR SPEED. I ALREADY OWN A DSLR FOR SPEED. So I don't have to move on with anything. I knew that the NX was slower than a DSLR before I bought it. What part of it don't you understand. It's like Seasame Street in here.
That is what I said and it is correct.
And I agreed with that fact. See 1st paragraph.
Now that were we have a problem. Because that wasn't true. I already proved that fact by doing a test three times. I suggested that go to the Sammy forum and get the word of other users if you didn't believe me. If you did, then you would have found this:
- This guy here got the exact same write times as me in burst....12 secs (old firmware) reduced down to 7 secs and no lock out with new firmware. Faster than the HS10. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1001&message=35422769
- This guys here says 2-3 seconds for raws in single mode.....faster than the HS10. http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1001&message=35422890
That's correct. But I didn't even have to do that. I knew that. The DPR review of the NX10 is wrong and they admit that themselves. They are going to update it later. I posted all the links. Didn't you read them?
Again. Never disputed that fact. So point didn't need to be proven. See 1st paragraph.
That it is correct....it is. Better IQ, performance, noise handling, dynamic range.
And what should we compare it against? Against another bridge cam? You should have thought of that yourself when you posted your HS10 v DSLR only crops! BTW....I did post crops of the Panny FZ35 trumping the HS10 too.
Again, I didn't deny your original point. See 1st paragraph. That's were you have your knickers in a twist. If I denied your original point that the NX10 was slower than a DSLR....could you simply show us all my quote and back it up please?
I mentioned John and Kim because they were were giving you a lttle bit of education about DSLRs and sensors in another thread along the lines of I educating you on how the NX10 performs. I pointed it that maybe you should listen to them also and you might educate yourself. Obviously understanding english isn't your strong suit. Anything else made up in your head is just hullucination on your behalf and conjured up in your imaginative mind. Now that's sad.
errrrr......that's not too bright a statement. Whoose gonna contest it?....the invisible man? You mentioned nobody name. How are they gonna contest it, silly.
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nictita
Leading Member
My intention was to light a pipe of peace but I have inflamed another gas tank - apart from some reasonable answers.
This is the Fuji-Forum, where you find people who loves their new cam and try to spread their enthusiasm but get slammed ("spread your sillyness...") and named as "atta boys" and "fan boys" by some (maybe) more advanced users. Yes, this enthusiasm is not always be uttered cleverly but some counter posters do behave not better. Take this thread as a proof.
I am a novice here as it was IvSa who was appalled - and left FTF:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=35544143
I will never again get involved in any sort of discussions where the knifes are ruling and will only show pics and PP's like this one:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=35529785
There I have learned useful things.
Regards
Nic
This is the Fuji-Forum, where you find people who loves their new cam and try to spread their enthusiasm but get slammed ("spread your sillyness...") and named as "atta boys" and "fan boys" by some (maybe) more advanced users. Yes, this enthusiasm is not always be uttered cleverly but some counter posters do behave not better. Take this thread as a proof.
I am a novice here as it was IvSa who was appalled - and left FTF:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=35544143
I will never again get involved in any sort of discussions where the knifes are ruling and will only show pics and PP's like this one:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1012&message=35529785
There I have learned useful things.
Regards
Nic
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