EOS-1Ds samples from Steve

Igor

You post, post and post text.

Show your true colors by posting one or two
of your images ... please.

Louis
The tree leaves in the 1ds samples are still ugly!!! The same for
all bayer sensor, no matter how many pixels they have. Even size
the files down to 3MP, the tree leaves are still ugly.
The only time I saw beautiful leaves was when the Foven samples
first came out.The nature's beauty lies in things like tree leaves,
rather than wall bricks. A "wall bricks" recording camera is not a
great camera in my heart, at least not for nature photography!!!
 
Igor

You post, post and post text.

Show your true colors by posting one or two
of your images ... please.

Louis
Oh BTW, please to not reply
with "I don't have to show you no stink'n badges"

Louis
The tree leaves in the 1ds samples are still ugly!!! The same for
all bayer sensor, no matter how many pixels they have. Even size
the files down to 3MP, the tree leaves are still ugly.
The only time I saw beautiful leaves was when the Foven samples
first came out.The nature's beauty lies in things like tree leaves,
rather than wall bricks. A "wall bricks" recording camera is not a
great camera in my heart, at least not for nature photography!!!
 
Igor R. wrote:

Compared to what? Film? Hah! What is your 'fabulous' standard by
which this 1DS looks so bad?

Unless your equipment exists only in cyber-space, what do you use
that is so fantastic? Give us the 'standard' by which you think
this 1Ds is soo awful.
Only because you don't know.
For me, I need to sell images to clients. I can do this --- easily
--- with those 1Ds images -- that to apparently so many here are
"filled with surprising amounts or noise" and chock full of "bayer
interpolation anomolies".
Well, photography for you is just bussiness.
Who is going to come to your resucue then? Sigma? To each his/her
own.
Let's see...

Wangler
--
Darkness is made up of dark particles.
 
If you all were not so amusing you would be exasperating. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe the leafs in the sample don't look so great because the quality of light on them is not all that great? What I have found with the D60 is that the orginal image tends to come out a little bit flat. This is not a bad thing, this is a good thing, because that flatness is caused by an adundance of information and depth. Just the slightest levels adjustment in Photoshop brings out the snap and vibrancy that is in the colors, including the green of leafs.

Good grief! If you can't look at these samples and see the tremendous potential in the camera that made them instead of spouting all this nonsense about lack of sharpness, poor color, bayer, etc. etc... well hell. I shall hold my words.

I will not argue further with you. I will just get the EOS 1Ds asap, put it to work and leave you all to enjoy your horses and buggies, horses and buggies being fine things in their own realm. And who can deny the contribution of the horse and buggy to society?
 
Good grief! If you can't look at these samples and see the
tremendous potential in the camera that made them instead of
spouting all this nonsense about lack of sharpness, poor color,
bayer, etc. etc... well hell. I shall hold my words.
It's true to get the best possible print we will adjust the color balance, tweek the levels, add sharpening, and so on. But to understand that process and see the potential to which you're referring... ah, that would require some thought, some imagination, and some experience.

If you REALLY want to see something amusing, visit the Sigma forum and find the thread on "night images". A web site posted some Sigma/Foveon night images that, out of the camera, were somewhat less than stellar (noise, blooming, some colors oversaturated, etc.).

Of course, then it wasn't the CAMERA that was bad. It was the photographer. It was the conditions. It was the exposure. It obviously couldn't be the CAMERA....
 
If you all were not so amusing you would be exasperating. Has it
ever occurred to you that maybe the leafs in the sample don't look
so great because the quality of light on them is not all that
great? What I have found with the D60 is that the orginal image
tends to come out a little bit flat. This is not a bad thing, this
is a good thing, because that flatness is caused by an adundance of
information and depth. Just the slightest levels adjustment in
Photoshop brings out the snap and vibrancy that is in the colors,
including the green of leafs.
Sorry! I am not new to DSLR. In the contrary, I am one of those jumped in at the first hand. Having had D30 for more than 1 year and D60 for half a year, I am pretty confident in my experience on tweaking those digital files.

I enjoy DSLR very much, but at the same time I fully realize its limitation. If you can not tell the difference between the leaves recorded on film and those recorded by DSLR, I have to be dumbed.
Good grief! If you can't look at these samples and see the
tremendous potential in the camera that made them instead of
spouting all this nonsense about lack of sharpness, poor color,
bayer, etc. etc... well hell. I shall hold my words.
This is my first ever post addressing non-positive thing on 1DS. 1DS is sharp. I've never deny that. I didn't mention that the color is poor. These are all you guessing. Quality wise, it is just a upgrade from D60, mostly pixel-count wise. Nothing revolutionary. I am not grieve about anything. Just a little bit get tired of the pixel increasing game. If you feel 11MP is such a great upgrade from 6MP D60, congratulations then!
I will not argue further with you. I will just get the EOS 1Ds
asap, put it to work and leave you all to enjoy your horses and
buggies, horses and buggies being fine things in their own realm.
And who can deny the contribution of the horse and buggy to society?
Sorry to tell you my similar joy came two year ahead of you. I am already getting boring.

Wangler
--
Darkness is made up of dark particles.
 
Doesn't stop you from trashing it...
I'm not trashing it, just saying that it is not as perfect, as many
peepl thinkin'.
I'm not defending FILM, I'm defending the TRUTH!
I'm pretty sure not one thread defined the 1Ds as perfect. Many people [sic], however, have said that it's suitable for their needs.

Nice thing about TRUTH (all caps versions) is that you don't need facts or experience to back it up...
 

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