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That Leica Look

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maybe you can try posting your comments one more time and see if they get deleted again. that would at least provide an indication as to whether the threads were deleted on purpose or by accident? i would have wanted to read your comments.
RaajS said:
The powers that be seem to have deleted my comments. Not sure why, but now I can at least claim the dubious distinction of being censored!

Amazing, given the nature of my comments. Oh well. I wonder if this will be deleted too. Fascinating...
flhotelin said:
Why some of those threads were deleted ?

I don't like censorship in any form.

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Thanks, Gary.

I had posted several comments and given that only my comments, interspersed as they were with the other comments that are still here, it's very unlikely that some sort of error took them out. It's too surgical to be anything but censorship.

Anyways, all I had said was that I really thought the Noct-Nikkor could hold it's own against any glass produced by Leica or anyone else, for that matter. I had also further commented that the images posted by flhotelin with his D3 and the Noct-Nikkor clearly showed what that lens was capable of in good hands. I also disagreed with Dale that Nikon glass produced "cold and analytical" images. That comment, I felt, dismissively swept away several decades of work by Nikon in producing some truly superb and iconic lenses.

Cheers!
-raaj
polarabbit said:
maybe you can try posting your comments one more time and see if they get deleted again. that would at least provide an indication as to whether the threads were deleted on purpose or by accident? i would have wanted to read your comments.
RaajS said:
The powers that be seem to have deleted my comments. Not sure why, but now I can at least claim the dubious distinction of being censored!

Amazing, given the nature of my comments. Oh well. I wonder if this will be deleted too. Fascinating...
flhotelin said:
Why some of those threads were deleted ?

I don't like censorship in any form.

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http://flickr.com/lhotelin
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Aurance said:
I have studied this very area for several months now and as yet I am unable to reach a definitive answer to the reality of the 'Leica Look' - I currently use Canon DSLRs + Canon Lenses and quite recently bought into a Nikon FM3a + Nikon 50mm f1.4 to further my film 'street' photography (still on the fence re Leica).

There does appear to be a combination of factors and I split them up into 2 camps:-

The first is that the image (digital or film/scanned) is heavily post processed and lends itself more to certain types of subjects which suit the final style (portraits and people/scene street photography) The final result is often abstract in final composition - still a photography but verging on an art form.

The second is that the Leica does indeed deliver a 'signature image' most commonly associated with the summicron/summilux lenses and with very little post processing the same result is achieved (as in number 1)

Critical to all of this appears to be (in both camps) the availablity of the subject material which tends to lend itself to distinctive colouring and scenes with 'old world' styles in the street and in portraits. Very often the image is captured in B+W either through film or through digital camera.

I have no final conclusion, perhaps it is all a myth but the problem is that to finally test the second 'camp' I would have to lay out an awful lot of dosh to establish if indeed Leica has a signature worth buying into.

Any further elaboration would be very welcome!
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Leica, in the film days, was a miniature system, camera, lens and enlarger. Starting with a properly exposed and developed negative, add good darkroom technique and you could get some exquisite images. It was the detail and micro-contrast. Especially in B&W. ;-)

I still have a like new Leitz Valloy II enlarger...that I will never use again. :-(

Digital post processing is the Great Equalizer.

Leica still stirs a lot of passion and emotion. Some of their lenses had a distinct 'look'. One of my favorites was a collapsible 50mm f2.8 Elmar that I bought used for $100.

If you want to probe this, consider a newer Bessa RF body and one used lens...or two. If it does not do it for you, sell the kit.
 
Les Lammers said:
Aurance wrote:

Leica, in the film days, was a miniature system, camera, lens and enlarger. Starting with a properly exposed and developed negative, add good darkroom technique and you could get some exquisite images. It was the detail and micro-contrast. Especially in B&W. ;-)
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I recall long discussions on a landscape forum that compared digital to film "looks", but always processing the analog film by scanning and then printing digitally, which to me invalidated the comparisons. I think we have a long way to go in digital before we can scan film for digital printing, yet somehow duplicate the effect of enlargers. Maybe never, since enlargers can mask grain in ways that no digital process I know of can do.
 
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