What about the camera itself

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Hi

Like most of you i have been amazed by the picture sample of the SD9. I have myself a D30 and i dont think it can get near close (straight out of the camera) to that (even in my best days ;).

Obviously the idea of switching to Sigma crossed my head (...) but if the picture are good, what about the camera itself? I already know that it runs on two sets of battery ??? For me, it is glimpse of a proof of a poor engineering design. How many pics in continuous mode? no integrated flash (Sigma wants to do like the Big professionnal camera, come on).

Anyway, i have seen in this forum that someone has already ordered one ... must be quite confident to do that wihtout knowing more.

Just try to point out that the camera itself is an issue, and a big one. Wouldnt go throught the assle of changing brand (and lens etc etc) just for a "better feel" about the image if the camera body is poorly design.

Let me know please if you have info about the camera body itself. thank you

Dan
 
Hello,

but to discuss CA, noise and other devilish X3 sensor artifacts!

Joking* , but couldn't help it :-)

I have many times tried to discuss / ask questions, but get few answers. A few pople here have made it a "hobby" to discuss only problems. They are of course entitled to discuss what they want, but I think it has gone tooooo far: We now to few things right now, and have to wait for a test to draw more conclusions.

Back to your question: The camera looks interesting to me, but I haven't owned any Sigmas, so I will have to wait until Phil can shed som light on these questions.

Maybe other Sigma owners know?

Geir Ove
 
Obviously the idea of switching to Sigma crossed my head (...) but
if the picture are good, what about the camera itself? I already
know that it runs on two sets of battery ??? For me, it is glimpse
of a proof of a poor engineering design. How many pics in
continuous mode? no integrated flash (Sigma wants to do like the
Big professionnal camera, come on).
I have some comments based on playing with the SD9, D100, S2, D1s
at the Photokina show. I admit that these are very superficial
impressions. I have made up my mind that I will need to rent
or borrow a DSLR before I finally buy one, since it can take a
couple of days to discover what is useful, and what are the really
annoying design errors.

First: wrong bayonet. As consumers, we can shape products
by voting with our money. It is not in our interest that each
camera manufacturer has a non-compatible lens mount.
We now have the situation that "most" lenses have
either the Canon or Nikon mount: If you subtract the
standard 28-85 lenses, the Sigma/Tamron 28-300, and the 70-210
in everybody's closet, there are very few Minolta/Pentax/Olympus/etc
lenses being sold.

The other manufacturers already got punished for their sin of being
incompatible, (Olympus OM just bit the dust) and we do not need
Sigma to go for the high risk gamble of establishing a new mount,
especially since the gamble is with our money.

I hope that the Sigma people used the opportunity of being
right next to the Leica booth at Photokina, to see what happens
when a manufacturer make first-class lenses with the wrong bayonet.
30 years of being in almost bankrupt state, because the lenses could only
be attached on red-dot-Minoltas.

So Sigma, make a choice: Canon EOS or Nikon F.

Second: A plastic brick for $1500?!?

As the prices are right now, the SD9 looks and feels the cheapest.
It has a big bulky look, and funny bulges at all ends.
The Nikon D100 and Canon D60 are much sleeker, and tactile
feedback from these cameras says: nic, robust, well designed.
The Fuji S2 is ok, and the D1s is simply a work of art.

Of course, Sigma may plan to march to the magical $1000 threshold
with the SD9, as the cost of the sensor drops over the next months,
and therefore has tried to keep the cost of the mechanical
package down. It is unlikely that the D100/D60 will make the $1000
threshold, there will have to be new DSLR models with bodies
made on point-and-shoot assembly lines, like the EOS 300 or Nikon F55/65.
 

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