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We must admit that Sony didn't do all that well with the Alpha mount in the marketplace. They are trying to stay ahead of the game, and this new camera is a step in the right direction. Smaller, cheaper cameras, bigger sensors, better high ISO performance. This camera performs as well as any DSLR under $1000, and some that are more than that. BUT the big thing is - it is SMALL. I for one am tired of lugging around a big camera that has a mirror just because we used to use film.

Some lament that the Alpha mount is dead, that Sony has screwed them by abandoning their Milnolta-legacy lenses. But think about it - maybe Sony has plans for full-frame sensors too. If the NEX does well, the next move might be to bigger sensors. Imagine a FULL-FRAME mirrorless camera, with 24 megapixels, great high-ISO capabilities, HD video, panoramas, 3D, etc, etc. Imagine that it weighs less than half of what an A900 weighs. Maybe Zeiss and Sony will make some new kick-ass smaller lenses for it. THIS could be the future of high-end photography.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Sony later this year came out with a higher-spec NEX camera with more serious controls and an OLED EVF. I remember when I bought my first digital camera back in 2004, the DSC-F828. I thought that was great until, less than a year later, Sony introduced the R-1. I jumped on it and still have the R-1. It takes great pictures - I always thought it was cutting edge and they should update it. Looks like that might happen, or has already happened, I don't know until I learn more about the NEX. I would like to see an EVF though.

This market is driven by technology, and if you can't keep up, you are history. Sony has learned to do that as well as anyone over the years. Don't count them out by any means. They still have the wherewithal to become a dominant player, not only in video, but in still photography as well.

Just my humble opinion.
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Good points maid. I also think that if Sony can make a camera this tiny with a massive sensor with amazing image quality. Than imagine what they could do for the a700 and a900 replacements when they do not need to worry about size restraints! One thing is for certain, I know many nikon and canon point and shoot crowds go with them because of the seemingly pro name. Sony cant leave the alpha line because point and shooters for some reason love to know that there brand has a level beyond there budget models. Think of it as a ladder, right now sony has some steps missing but they will fill those in soon.

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NEX body is 30% the size of canon rebel body

I would totally buy FF NEX if the body was smaller than Canon rebel (i don't care about telephoto zooms, Normal zoom 18-55 and pancakes is all what i use)
 
JimLenexa said:
Sorry, I guess I was expecting them to dominate. I think they still could.
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They could, but not in only five years, against two large and entrenched players in a market with heavy professional investment in proprietary-mount equipment and significant legacy compatibility issues.

I think Sony expected, and still expects, to forego profit for several years in order to keep building market share.
 
JimLenexa said:
........... this new camera is a step in the right direction. Smaller, cheaper cameras, bigger sensors, better high ISO performance. ............... I for one am tired of lugging around a big camera that has a mirror just because we used to use film.

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I completely agree.

If people can get the same quality in smaller more portable devices , they will choose smaller.

This is obvious for me.
 
JimLenexa said:
We must admit that Sony didn't do all that well with the Alpha mount in the marketplace. They are trying to stay ahead of the game, and this new camera is a step in the right direction. Smaller, cheaper cameras, bigger sensors, better high ISO performance.
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Well I would have to disagree on this
JimLenexa said:
This camera performs as well as any DSLR under $1000, and some that are more than that.
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Does it?

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/NEX5/NEX5A6.HTM

Fine if you shoot non moving subjects.

BUT the big thing is - it is SMALL. I for one am tired of lugging around a big camera that has a mirror just because we used to use film.

I have a dynax 5 film body. It's really rather small.
That mirror also provides a real VF..

Each to his own..oh and I shoot film too. Oh yeah!
JimLenexa said:
Some lament that the Alpha mount is dead, that Sony has screwed them by abandoning their Milnolta-legacy lenses. But think about it - maybe Sony has plans for full-frame sensors too. If the NEX does well, the next move might be to bigger sensors. Imagine a FULL-FRAME mirrorless camera, with 24 megapixels, great high-ISO capabilities, HD video, panoramas, 3D, etc, etc. Imagine that it weighs less than half of what an A900 weighs. Maybe Zeiss and Sony will make some new kick-ass smaller lenses for it.
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Well A mount is not dead..tad premature on that one.
BTW I would add not everyone wants a small camera with big lenses!
JimLenexa said:
THIS could be the future of high-end photography.
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Some say George W was a great president..most felt he wasn't.
Could be might be..means nothing.
JimLenexa said:
This market is driven by technology, and if you can't keep up, you are history. Sony has learned to do that as well as anyone over the years. Don't count them out by any means. They still have the wherewithal to become a dominant player, not only in video, but in still photography as well.
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Too late for that..other companies are driving the market not Sony
 
Well there was a rumour floating around that a NEX 7 (built in flash, EVF etc) would be released at Photokina... We'll have to wait and see what happens!
 
I don't think sony will ever become a dominant player in photography, there are companies that do that for much longer or aggressively and they don't sleep.(Panasonic used to have very little share in photography and they come full circle)

But I think Sony already become one of the bigger name in photography and they will stay there which is just fine.

As for video - Sony used to be the bread and butter of professional video equipment with very small share in consumer market but they lost their share to JVC and Panasonic but gained a bit bigger consumer video market instead.
 
LaFonte said:
I don't think sony will ever become a dominant player in photography
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FYI, Sony ranked as either no. 1 or 2 in world wide digital camera manufacturing every year for more than a decade (most years neck-by-neck with Canon).
LaFonte said:
As for video - Sony used to be the bread and butter of professional video equipment with very small share in consumer market but they lost their share to JVC and Panasonic
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Sony is the no. 1 manufacturer worldwide in videocams and has been for many years.

How did you arrive at your above conclusions, I wonder? lol

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I think the Nex camera is a preview of what to expect from the new Alphas. The technology in the new Alphas will represent everything developed thus far. It's going to be great. Sony always implements the techology inside the camera better than everyone else and adds their new stuff also. It's going to happen. ChaCha
 
JimLenexa said:
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In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Sony later this year came out with a higher-spec NEX camera with more serious controls and an OLED EVF.
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This market is driven by technology, and if you can't keep up, you are history. Sony has learned to do that as well as anyone over the years. Don't count them out by any means. They still have the wherewithal to become a dominant player, not only in video, but in still photography as well.
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I believe Sony made the "E" mount larger than needed for an APS-C sensor foreseeing their future plans of dropping the "A" mount ( not so soon, I mean like 5 years from now... )!
I see a future where the whole Alfa line will share the "E" mount.
IMHO it makes a lot of sense!
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Lucas_ said:
I believe Sony made the "E" mount larger than needed for an APS-C sensor foreseeing their future plans of dropping the "A" mount ( not so soon, I mean like 5 years from now... )!
I see a future where the whole Alfa line will share the "E" mount.
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Freeing up everyone to move to other mounts that support their users more consistently.

So much for investing in Sony glass.....

Walt
 
love_them_all said:
Do you have data to show that europe is the largest DSLR market in the world?
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It has been published here in DPR review few years ago and the trend has not changed yet. second largest is asia and third is north america.

if you google, you will find some infos.
 
JimLenexa said:
We must admit that Sony didn't do all that well with the Alpha mount in the marketplace. They are trying to stay ahead of the game, and this new camera is a step in the right direction. Smaller, cheaper cameras, bigger sensors, better high ISO performance. This camera performs as well as any DSLR under $1000, and some that are more than that. BUT the big thing is - it is SMALL. I for one am tired of lugging around a big camera that has a mirror just because we used to use film.

Some lament that the Alpha mount is dead, that Sony has screwed them by abandoning their Milnolta-legacy lenses. But think about it - maybe Sony has plans for full-frame sensors too. If the NEX does well, the next move might be to bigger sensors. Imagine a FULL-FRAME mirrorless camera, with 24 megapixels, great high-ISO capabilities, HD video, panoramas, 3D, etc, etc. Imagine that it weighs less than half of what an A900 weighs. Maybe Zeiss and Sony will make some new kick-ass smaller lenses for it. THIS could be the future of high-end photography.

In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Sony later this year came out with a higher-spec NEX camera with more serious controls and an OLED EVF. I remember when I bought my first digital camera back in 2004, the DSC-F828. I thought that was great until, less than a year later, Sony introduced the R-1. I jumped on it and still have the R-1. It takes great pictures - I always thought it was cutting edge and they should update it. Looks like that might happen, or has already happened, I don't know until I learn more about the NEX. I would like to see an EVF though.

This market is driven by technology, and if you can't keep up, you are history. Sony has learned to do that as well as anyone over the years. Don't count them out by any means. They still have the wherewithal to become a dominant player, not only in video, but in still photography as well.

Just my humble opinion.
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Jim Meyer
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Yes a fair opinon..full frame but with built in stabalization 3d etc evf blah blah...would hock some of my daiwa high end reels for something like that
 
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