24mm F2.8D AF Nikkor - sharp ?

Ian Moran

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Is this lens supposed to be sharp ? I purchased one recently and used it today for the first time to photograph a house interior using the SB-80DX - results are very soft as is a test shot I performed later. Is it possible the lens is damaged ? Could someone please comment on the following in respect of this concern

http://www.pbase.com/ianm/newhouse
http://www.pbase.com/ianm/tmp

Camera is a Nikon D100, JPG Fine, Normal Sharpening, Cloudy-3, Custom Tone Curve. No post-processing.

Ian Moran
 
I think for jpeg the pics look okay, when you touch them up in photo or elements they will look better. I had that lens for two weeks and I loved it. I got talked into the 28-70 2.8 and bought that. It is great lens and works better in low light, but other than that there is not a huge difference between it and yours. I wish i would have kept yours and got the 17-35 as well. Don't get me wrong I love the 28-70 but for the dollar and size difference your lens is pretty amazing.
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ? I purchased one recently and
used it today for the first time to photograph a house interior
using the SB-80DX - results are very soft as is a test shot I
performed later. Is it possible the lens is damaged ? Could someone
please comment on the following in respect of this concern

http://www.pbase.com/ianm/newhouse
http://www.pbase.com/ianm/tmp

Camera is a Nikon D100, JPG Fine, Normal Sharpening, Cloudy-3,
Custom Tone Curve. No post-processing.

Ian Moran
 
Greg,

In the last few weeks I've purchased and used the 60 & 105mm Macro Nikkors & 85mm F1.8D. I also have the 50mm F1.8D and 24-120D. In other words I've been seeing a lot of results from a variety of lenses but the results from the 24mm today really concerned me - they seem much softer than the rest.

Ian
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ? I purchased one recently and
used it today for the first time to photograph a house interior
using the SB-80DX - results are very soft as is a test shot I
performed later. Is it possible the lens is damaged ? Could someone
please comment on the following in respect of this concern

http://www.pbase.com/ianm/newhouse
http://www.pbase.com/ianm/tmp

Camera is a Nikon D100, JPG Fine, Normal Sharpening, Cloudy-3,
Custom Tone Curve. No post-processing.

Ian Moran
 
Philo,

Full EXIF with each photo - the one in temp was taken braced against a window and is at 1/200sec/F5.6, no level adjustment, no USM. I normally do both but even at this stage I'd expect sharper images to work with.

Philo Calhoun wrote:
No, the pictures are not razer sharp. The lens is pretty sharp (I
have one for scenice) http://www.photodo.com/nav/prodindex.html
and was used extensively by Galen Rowell. But what about: tripod,
exposure, f stop, level adjustment and USM?
 
I may have found the cause. When the lens is mounted the infinity symbol is alligned with the dot to the left of the focus point indicator, at least it normally is. I've just noticed the infinity marker was aligned with the focus point - a slight turn and the focus movement locked to the former position - iyswim

Ian
No, the pictures are not razer sharp. The lens is pretty sharp (I
have one for scenice) http://www.photodo.com/nav/prodindex.html
and was used extensively by Galen Rowell. But what about: tripod,
exposure, f stop, level adjustment and USM?
 
Can you explain this further? The way you wrote it I am at a complete loss as to what you are describing.

With my lenses when I mount the lens the infinity symbol is wherever it was when I last used the lens. I also don't understand the "dot to the left of the focus point indicator" either. I don't have the 24mm so maybe this is specific to this lens? But my 60mm micro does not have any dot, nor does my 80-200.
I may have found the cause. When the lens is mounted the infinity
symbol is alligned with the dot to the left of the focus point
indicator, at least it normally is. I've just noticed the infinity
marker was aligned with the focus point - a slight turn and the
focus movement locked to the former position - iyswim

Ian
 
Not sure I do either. This "dot" is only present on my 24, 50 & 85 D lenses. When the 24mm lens is focussed on a distant object the infinity symbol is not aligned with the focus indicator bar on the lens barrel.
With my lenses when I mount the lens the infinity symbol is
wherever it was when I last used the lens. I also don't understand
the "dot to the left of the focus point indicator" either. I don't
have the 24mm so maybe this is specific to this lens? But my 60mm
micro does not have any dot, nor does my 80-200.
I may have found the cause. When the lens is mounted the infinity
symbol is alligned with the dot to the left of the focus point
indicator, at least it normally is. I've just noticed the infinity
marker was aligned with the focus point - a slight turn and the
focus movement locked to the former position - iyswim

Ian
 
Hi Ian, all I can say is mine is razor sharp. I've used this lens for a long time and personally it's been my favorite Nikkor WA. It's on my D1X most of the time...with a FOV mimmicking a 35mm is a nice "walk-around"lens.

If you want, click on the photosig link below and look at a shot called "Grampa's Watch." It's very sharp, even after heavy compression.
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ? I purchased one recently and
used it today for the first time to photograph a house interior
using the SB-80DX - results are very soft as is a test shot I
performed later. Is it possible the lens is damaged ? Could someone
please comment on the following in respect of this concern

http://www.pbase.com/ianm/newhouse
http://www.pbase.com/ianm/tmp

Camera is a Nikon D100, JPG Fine, Normal Sharpening, Cloudy-3,
Custom Tone Curve. No post-processing.

Ian Moran
--
http://www.photosig.com/photos.php?photographerId=2667
 
Actually I gave you the wrong shot!! Sorry..the shot is "A question of Balance".
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ? I purchased one recently and
used it today for the first time to photograph a house interior
using the SB-80DX - results are very soft as is a test shot I
performed later. Is it possible the lens is damaged ? Could someone
please comment on the following in respect of this concern

http://www.pbase.com/ianm/newhouse
http://www.pbase.com/ianm/tmp

Camera is a Nikon D100, JPG Fine, Normal Sharpening, Cloudy-3,
Custom Tone Curve. No post-processing.

Ian Moran
--
http://www.photosig.com/photos.php?photographerId=2667
--
http://www.photosig.com/photos.php?photographerId=2667
 
Thanks Lou - sharp pic !. I know this lens should be sharp, just wondering if I've a duff one.

Ian
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ? I purchased one recently and
used it today for the first time to photograph a house interior
using the SB-80DX - results are very soft as is a test shot I
performed later. Is it possible the lens is damaged ? Could someone
please comment on the following in respect of this concern

http://www.pbase.com/ianm/newhouse
http://www.pbase.com/ianm/tmp

Camera is a Nikon D100, JPG Fine, Normal Sharpening, Cloudy-3,
Custom Tone Curve. No post-processing.

Ian Moran
--
http://www.photosig.com/photos.php?photographerId=2667
--
http://www.photosig.com/photos.php?photographerId=2667
 
Ian: you may have a bad lens. Looking at your pictures, there is no area that is in sharp focus, so it is not an issue of where you focused. Considering the speed and f-stop, you should be getting a better image before post processing manipulation. Do your other lenses give a sharp image? You should try another lens and put your camera on a tripod to determine if it is the lens or the camera. The extra dot near the infinity symbol is probably for infrared focus so you shouldn't use this. FWIT, my 24 mm Nikkor AF lens is pretty sharp but not as sharp as my 55 mm Micro or 180 MM Nikkor lenses.
Ian
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ? I purchased one recently and
used it today for the first time to photograph a house interior
using the SB-80DX - results are very soft as is a test shot I
performed later. Is it possible the lens is damaged ? Could someone
please comment on the following in respect of this concern

http://www.pbase.com/ianm/newhouse
http://www.pbase.com/ianm/tmp

Camera is a Nikon D100, JPG Fine, Normal Sharpening, Cloudy-3,
Custom Tone Curve. No post-processing.

Ian Moran
--
http://www.photosig.com/photos.php?photographerId=2667
--
http://www.photosig.com/photos.php?photographerId=2667
 
My feelings exactly. You hit the nail on the head, no part of the image seems to be in sharp focus. All other lenses give superbly sharp images even prior to any USM etc - that's why the 24mm stuck out like a sore thumb. Off to CA tomorrow for a week but I'll have this lens replaced on my return. Thanks for the feedback.

Ian
Ian
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ? I purchased one recently and
used it today for the first time to photograph a house interior
using the SB-80DX - results are very soft as is a test shot I
performed later. Is it possible the lens is damaged ? Could someone
please comment on the following in respect of this concern

http://www.pbase.com/ianm/newhouse
http://www.pbase.com/ianm/tmp

Camera is a Nikon D100, JPG Fine, Normal Sharpening, Cloudy-3,
Custom Tone Curve. No post-processing.

Ian Moran
--
http://www.photosig.com/photos.php?photographerId=2667
--
http://www.photosig.com/photos.php?photographerId=2667
 
My 775 coolpix takes better shots. I am planning on purchasing a D100 and if it takes poor photos like that I would rather save my money. And for that type of camera and Nikon's lenses, if you have to, as one of you suggested (which is preposterous), use Photoshop to sharpen it up, then I feel its money to the cows. I expect for a D100 with a Nikon lens nothing less than excellent, period. If I use Photoshop to fix images from my coolpix I accept that, but not from a D100...if some of you except that, well than Nikon is laughing all the way to the bank.
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ? I purchased one recently and
used it today for the first time to photograph a house interior
using the SB-80DX - results are very soft as is a test shot I
performed later. Is it possible the lens is damaged ? Could someone
please comment on the following in respect of this concern

http://www.pbase.com/ianm/newhouse
http://www.pbase.com/ianm/tmp

Camera is a Nikon D100, JPG Fine, Normal Sharpening, Cloudy-3,
Custom Tone Curve. No post-processing.

Ian Moran
 
This thread is about a possible faulty lens not the quality of the D100 which is unquestioned IME - see the rest of my galleries

Ian Moran
http://www.pbase.com/ianm
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ? I purchased one recently and
used it today for the first time to photograph a house interior
using the SB-80DX - results are very soft as is a test shot I
performed later. Is it possible the lens is damaged ? Could someone
please comment on the following in respect of this concern

http://www.pbase.com/ianm/newhouse
http://www.pbase.com/ianm/tmp

Camera is a Nikon D100, JPG Fine, Normal Sharpening, Cloudy-3,
Custom Tone Curve. No post-processing.

Ian Moran
 
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ?
I agree with the other commenters who have this lens. It is capable of very sharp images. I also have begun to use this lens as the "walking around" lens on my D100. I found that the 20mm f2.8's field of view was wonderful, but the perspective it creates, with the floors falling away and the walls converging, was too wide for general purpose and people pictures. Most of those who have reviewed this lens on the various lens review web sites find it to be a very good and very sharp lens, especially at f5.6 and above. They also say good things about the 17-35 f2.8 zoom partly because of how favorably it compares to this and the other primes in its range.

One thought occurs to me about the apparent lack of sharpness of your images. With "normal" in camera sharpening the D100's jpgs tend to need some more USM in the post processing stage. Also the effect of "normal" sharpening may vary from shot to shot or subject matter to subject matter.

Many D100 owners have decided to shoot NEFs as a result of this jpg sharpness issue (which was identified from the beginning by Phil Askey, and has been killed to death and beyond on this forum). The NEFs, for whatever reason, tend in some cases to be sharper right out of the camera with normal or high sharpening, and tend to accept additional sharpening in Capture 3 or Photoshop much more readily. I have taken some jpgs that prove the exception to this rule, but find day in and day out that the NEF format more likely to yield the critically sharp images that I am looking for.

I hope this is helpful.
--
Bill Adams
D100, F100, F4s

Nikkor AF: 20 f2.8, 24 f2.8, 28-70 3.5-4.5, 35 f2, 50 f1.2 (AIS) and 1.4, 60 f2.8, 70-210 f4, 105 f1.8 (AIS), 300 f4
 
In case you didn't notice, I did say if you need Photoshop to make it look sharp then something is wrong...I was being retorical and also reacting to some peoples attitude of accepting low quality from a high quality brand name...thats all. Because I doubt any Nikon lense would take such shitty shots.
Ian Moran
http://www.pbase.com/ianm
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ? I purchased one recently and
used it today for the first time to photograph a house interior
using the SB-80DX - results are very soft as is a test shot I
performed later. Is it possible the lens is damaged ? Could someone
please comment on the following in respect of this concern

http://www.pbase.com/ianm/newhouse
http://www.pbase.com/ianm/tmp

Camera is a Nikon D100, JPG Fine, Normal Sharpening, Cloudy-3,
Custom Tone Curve. No post-processing.

Ian Moran
 
Thanks Bill.

Ian
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ?
I agree with the other commenters who have this lens. It is
capable of very sharp images. I also have begun to use this lens
as the "walking around" lens on my D100. I found that the 20mm
f2.8's field of view was wonderful, but the perspective it creates,
with the floors falling away and the walls converging, was too wide
for general purpose and people pictures. Most of those who have
reviewed this lens on the various lens review web sites find it to
be a very good and very sharp lens, especially at f5.6 and above.
They also say good things about the 17-35 f2.8 zoom partly because
of how favorably it compares to this and the other primes in its
range.

One thought occurs to me about the apparent lack of sharpness of
your images. With "normal" in camera sharpening the D100's jpgs
tend to need some more USM in the post processing stage. Also the
effect of "normal" sharpening may vary from shot to shot or subject
matter to subject matter.

Many D100 owners have decided to shoot NEFs as a result of this jpg
sharpness issue (which was identified from the beginning by Phil
Askey, and has been killed to death and beyond on this forum). The
NEFs, for whatever reason, tend in some cases to be sharper right
out of the camera with normal or high sharpening, and tend to
accept additional sharpening in Capture 3 or Photoshop much more
readily. I have taken some jpgs that prove the exception to this
rule, but find day in and day out that the NEF format more likely
to yield the critically sharp images that I am looking for.

I hope this is helpful.
--
Bill Adams
D100, F100, F4s
Nikkor AF: 20 f2.8, 24 f2.8, 28-70 3.5-4.5, 35 f2, 50 f1.2 (AIS)
and 1.4, 60 f2.8, 70-210 f4, 105 f1.8 (AIS), 300 f4
 
Thanks Bill and everyone else who contributed to this thread. My D100 is off for a firmware upgrade but once returned I'll be taking this lens out for a long walk to see if it can redeem itself.

Ian
Is this lens supposed to be sharp ?
I agree with the other commenters who have this lens. It is
capable of very sharp images. I also have begun to use this lens
as the "walking around" lens on my D100. I found that the 20mm
f2.8's field of view was wonderful, but the perspective it creates,
with the floors falling away and the walls converging, was too wide
for general purpose and people pictures. Most of those who have
reviewed this lens on the various lens review web sites find it to
be a very good and very sharp lens, especially at f5.6 and above.
They also say good things about the 17-35 f2.8 zoom partly because
of how favorably it compares to this and the other primes in its
range.

One thought occurs to me about the apparent lack of sharpness of
your images. With "normal" in camera sharpening the D100's jpgs
tend to need some more USM in the post processing stage. Also the
effect of "normal" sharpening may vary from shot to shot or subject
matter to subject matter.

Many D100 owners have decided to shoot NEFs as a result of this jpg
sharpness issue (which was identified from the beginning by Phil
Askey, and has been killed to death and beyond on this forum). The
NEFs, for whatever reason, tend in some cases to be sharper right
out of the camera with normal or high sharpening, and tend to
accept additional sharpening in Capture 3 or Photoshop much more
readily. I have taken some jpgs that prove the exception to this
rule, but find day in and day out that the NEF format more likely
to yield the critically sharp images that I am looking for.

I hope this is helpful.
--
Bill Adams
D100, F100, F4s
Nikkor AF: 20 f2.8, 24 f2.8, 28-70 3.5-4.5, 35 f2, 50 f1.2 (AIS)
and 1.4, 60 f2.8, 70-210 f4, 105 f1.8 (AIS), 300 f4
 

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