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I use photoshop CS4 and use the 32 bit version and not the 64 bit version on my machine because the plugins I own will only operate on the 32 bit version.

My question is, I have been thinking about Lightroom instead of Photoshop mainly because as I said in a previous thread 80% of Photoshop is wasted on me.
Would I be wise in migrating to Lightroom?

I Beta tested the first version when it first came out and did not like the way it handled file searches and that put me off.I am not a fan of bridge and never use it.

Is Lightroom going to do what i need ?

Are my plugins useless (32bit) in Lightroom ?
 
I was thinking of asking the same question, what advantage is there to light room?
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I would like to know also ,I have DPP,adobe cs3,capture one.what are the benefits of another program? ,what am I missing ?
many thanks
peter
 
Do you need anything more than DPP?

I use DPP far more than Lightroom or Photoshop and very very rarely use Bridge. I use DPP for quick edits then transfer across to Photoshop for more intense edits...

These days I only really use Lightroom for editing my Panasonic GF1 files....
branshatch said:
I use photoshop CS4 and use the 32 bit version and not the 64 bit version on my machine because the plugins I own will only operate on the 32 bit version.

My question is, I have been thinking about Lightroom instead of Photoshop mainly because as I said in a previous thread 80% of Photoshop is wasted on me.
Would I be wise in migrating to Lightroom?

I Beta tested the first version when it first came out and did not like the way it handled file searches and that put me off.I am not a fan of bridge and never use it.

Is Lightroom going to do what i need ?

Are my plugins useless (32bit) in Lightroom ?
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There is nothing more you can do with Lightroom, what you are able to do with photoshop instead. But you have a special tool (lightroom) for photographers with presets and easier use of gradiation curves, vibrant colors and so on. And you are able to administrate your pics easy (key words, filters, preferences) and create nice web galleries for example.

BTW, I have the same problem - my 32bit Plugins don't work with 64bit Photoshop. But I use the Plugins with the 32bit Edition AND I use the power of much more RAM for postprocessing (finishing), prepress and layers with my 64bit Edition. Adobe installs both versions - if you use a 64bit OS.

kind regards
Markus
 
there is no question that if you can only have one then Photoshop is the one to have because it is simply a more powerful application. You state that you do not use 80% of its capability but that is probably true for most of us. what is so powerful for Photoshop is the ability to use layers and if you are not using layers you need to learn how do use them. You just cant do that with Lightroom.

Having said all the above, I love Lightroom because of its simplicity in handling large batches of files and the ease with which you can create collections. For 95% of my pictures Lightroom is all I need for correction. But for the 5% it cannot handle Photoshop is a lifesaver.

On the flip side I can use Photoshop for 100% of what I do if I have to. But Lightroom is just so much easier and less time consuming.

So if you can afford both then get both, you will use them.
 
Sorry to double post like this but it just dawned on me that you already have CS4. So your question should really be "should I upgrade to CS5 or purchase Lightroom"

The answer to THAT question is a no-brainer. You should definitely get Lightroom. The upgrade to CS5 is nice but you really should only upgrade Photoshop every other year at the most.
 
First of all LR is mainly for RAW shooters. But the main advantage with LR is that your editing is non-destructive. Your editing is saved in metadata and the RAW file is never changed, so you dont need to have multiple version of huge PSD files for each image.

Also your history of changes to an image is saved so if you go back to an image later the entire history is still there, wich is pretty nice.

You can also easily apply the same corrections to thousands of images in one go simply by copy/pasting.

LR is also a good image manager/organizer and much more. I can pretty much do all my post-wedding work right in LR without going to PS. It really is a fantastic tool.

But you need a decent 2/4-core CPU and at least 4GB RAM for it to run good.

Also i can highly recomend The Luminous Landscapes video turorial on LR2, allthough I now they are working on a new one for LR3, wich I will surely be buying. You really get so much more out of LR after watching a good turotial like this.
 
It is there and you can download it for free. You should use it to know if it will work for you or not.

Unlike PP, Lr is focused more on photographers & it is specially powerful when it comes to patch processing. It also helps in images organization, categorization and publishing. I like it because it saves lots of time when I work on my assignments. I use PP for Single images that needs more than what Lr can Give.

If you are a serious photographer, I think that you should have both. If I have to pick one then I would pick Lr.
 
Lightroom is:

1. A photo database application to keep track of all your photos.

2. A photo editing application that makes no pixel changes to any edit. It just stores instructions. The original is never harmed. That allows you to redo any edits desired as often as desired without any damage to the file.

While this may not seem important, it is one of the most important features of Lightroom. For example, as the algorithms of Lightroom are improved, you can use the new ones to improve your original files.

3. Provides for export of rendered (converted) files to HD, web, CD/DVD.

4. Provides for photo printing of raw files without converting to JPEG or TIF.

5. On and on. It is now, and will become more so in the future, a better tool for a photographer than PS. PS is a pixel editor and makes real pixel changes in every edit. PS is really a graphic creation/editing application that has powerful things for the photographer.

5. Lightroom is a work in progress. PS is mature. But the kid is already pushing the old man aside.

There is really too much about Lightroom to explain it all here, but you need to find out about it yourself. This forum isn't the place.

Good Luck!
Wil
 
That was supposed to be my question,whether to go to CS5 or buy Lightroom.

I just downloaded the 2.7 version of Lightroom., bu to me it was not obvious of what I should do.

I did not want all my photos displayed , just a folder that I am working on but the terminlogy has me confused,also how do I save after manipulation?

You explained about the way Lightroom holds the data rather than changing the actual photo, so what just happens if my computer has a melt down? do I lose all the adjustments I have made to my photos on external hard drives ?
 
I just put one photo into Light room and really struggled on my friends laptop to see the changes.

Normally I am on a 24 inch screen with CS4 and find it easy to zoom in and out to see what I have done,but zooming in Light room is just not happening, I get two sizes, what is displayed and what I get when I click on the image, there seems to be no in between...........................maybe I need to do a tutorial instead of flying by the seat of my pants?
 
Again though Markus, the only real difference that there is between DPP and lightroom for what sounds like the OP's needs is the grad tool. I find the colours and sharpening in DPP much better than Adobe's tools and I also use the stamp tool in DPP quite successfully so I don't find any advantage to Lightroom over DPP....also, because I find that there is less time tweaking colours in DPP my basic editing workflow is faster...
IMEDIA said:
There is nothing more you can do with Lightroom, what you are able to do with photoshop instead. But you have a special tool (lightroom) for photographers with presets and easier use of gradiation curves, vibrant colors and so on. And you are able to administrate your pics easy (key words, filters, preferences) and create nice web galleries for example.

BTW, I have the same problem - my 32bit Plugins don't work with 64bit Photoshop. But I use the Plugins with the 32bit Edition AND I use the power of much more RAM for postprocessing (finishing), prepress and layers with my 64bit Edition. Adobe installs both versions - if you use a 64bit OS.

kind regards
Markus
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Slainte (cheers)

You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination is out of focus. :- Samuel Langhorne Clemens
 
You just need to backup the Lightroom catalog file along with your images. You can also choose to save an XMP sidecar file with each image.
 
The thing with LR is that you need to understand how it works to appreciate it. Otherwise you are not going to "get it".
 
IMEDIA said:
There is nothing more you can do with Lightroom, what you are able to do with photoshop instead. But you have a special tool (lightroom) for photographers with presets and easier use of gradiation curves, vibrant colors and so on. And you are able to administrate your pics easy (key words, filters, preferences) and create nice web galleries for example.

BTW, I have the same problem - my 32bit Plugins don't work with 64bit Photoshop. But I use the Plugins with the 32bit Edition AND I use the power of much more RAM for postprocessing (finishing), prepress and layers with my 64bit Edition. Adobe installs both versions - if you use a 64bit OS.
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Markus,

Which plugins do not work with 64-bit photoshop? I'm about to upgrade from CS3 to 64-bit CS5 and I'm curious if there is going to be some unexpected disappointment.

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I downloaded version 2.7 to play with but I did not see anyway of doing half of what I do in photoshop and it seems more to me a duplication without a lot of the basic features i use like layers and lens correction etc.

At this minute I am struggling to get myself to change as it just seems like a stripped down version with a classy interface, but I cannot understand why the need for different termonolgies in the drop down menus and why they just don't develop a complete tool from the start instead of compromising with a graphic design interface as well.

Two products would have done nicely one for designers, one for photographers, this just all seems ill conceived from Adobe.
 
I have used Photoshop for 4 or 5 years, DPP doesn't do it for me because I rely so heavily on the plugins that I use for color manipulation and sharpening.

Every year or two I try a Lightroom Beta and always give up after a short while. From what I can see Lightroom is intended for the user who wishes to apply the same adjustment to a large number of images as a batch. It does not seem to have the same individual image editing capabilities as Photoshop at all.

I am not a wedding or event photographer; I don't shoot hundreds of images which all require similar processing before being delivered to a client. I tend to pick through my shots and select the couple that most please me and then spend time optimizing them, often for printing.

By this time I think I'm too set in my ways with Photoshop to bother changing. There's nothing about my workflow that particularly frustrates me, and I absolutely don't "get" Lightroom every time I try it.

To address an incorrect statement made in another response: Photoshop does not necessarily carry out destructive edits to RAW images. Smart filters operate non destructively as layers whose effect can be changed or removed at any time.

Kevin
 
You need to have 64 bit versions of all your plugins to use with the 64 bit version of Photoshop, some companies have no such versions available or will charge you for an upgrade.

As an example: Nik Software only has one 64 plugin - Viveza - all the others are 32 bit only, and they charge for the 64 bit upgrade. When you upgrade you will receive both 32 and 64 bit versions of Photoshop, you'll just carry on using the 32 bit version untill such time as the plugins are also updated.

Kevin
 
I have gone from 100% of my image importing, cataloging and editing in Photoshop to about 85% in Lightroom and 15% in Photoshop. LR is a great downloading and cataloging program with very strong image editing capabilities. About the only thing I still do in PS is using the healing or clone brush.
 
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