please help! first wedding with D100 tomorrow

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i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be enlarged to 16x20?
 
UNcompressed NEF's are the way to go! I wouldn't shoot a wedding any other way, lots of latitude in case of White Balance mistakes, etc.
Dennis D
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
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Dennis D
 
If your reputation is on the line, then some kind of image tank or laptop and a couple 512M fast CF cards or 1GB Microdrives are in order--because you'll be shooting UNCOMPRESSED** NEFs. Compression takes WAY too long to save with NO image quality benefits. It's the same file, just "zipped".

G.I.
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
 
hi,

yes, i am a professional. i normally shoot in medium format, 6x4.5 cm. i have two 512 cards, two 256 cards and 2 128mb cards (had to get them in a hurry). do you think for the reception, i can go down to jpg fine?

is jpg fine good for 8x10?
G.I.
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
 
Well.. how much CF space do you have and how many photos are you planning to take? You can only do 51 RAW with a 512M CF.. double that with a 1G-MD..

I took 700+ photos (1 battery BTW) in my last D100 wedding.. (with 1.75G worth of memory cards). There's still no way I can shoot RAW all the way and there is no need to.. there're tons of photos that will never be enlarged to 8x10.. (more like 4x6).. I ended up using Medium Fine Jpeg for some of those meaningless "Just for the record" shots..

Michael
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
 
hi mike,

it sounds like you understand my situation. for my average wedding, i would shoot 10 rolls of 220 (about 300 shots) and 4 rolls of 135-36 black and white. i'm still going to shoot the black and white on film, except now with the medium format on 200 and i want to do all the color shots with the D100. i have 1.7 gig of CF memory spread across 6 different cards. i also have a g3 powerbook. i was thinking that my game plan would be this, shoot all portraits, formals and glamour shots in RAW. and shoot everything else in jpg fine mode. probably most of the reception in jpg fine, with the exception of the first dance and cake cutting. what do you think mike? thanks for helping me.
I took 700+ photos (1 battery BTW) in my last D100 wedding.. (with
1.75G worth of memory cards). There's still no way I can shoot RAW
all the way and there is no need to.. there're tons of photos that
will never be enlarged to 8x10.. (more like 4x6).. I ended up using
Medium Fine Jpeg for some of those meaningless "Just for the
record" shots..

Michael
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
 
Sounds good.. you can dump your cards out if you have time if you have a CF reader (I try to conserve battery since there's no backup for me).. One thing to beware is if you do ISO 400 or 320 before.. make sure you do the same with D100 so your flash will go as far..

Also make sure you don't use auto WB and tone control.. otherwise you get inconsistent colour in photos taken even seconds apart..

Michael
it sounds like you understand my situation. for my average wedding,
i would shoot 10 rolls of 220 (about 300 shots) and 4 rolls of
135-36 black and white. i'm still going to shoot the black and
white on film, except now with the medium format on 200 and i want
to do all the color shots with the D100. i have 1.7 gig of CF
memory spread across 6 different cards. i also have a g3 powerbook.
i was thinking that my game plan would be this, shoot all
portraits, formals and glamour shots in RAW. and shoot everything
else in jpg fine mode. probably most of the reception in jpg fine,
with the exception of the first dance and cake cutting. what do you
think mike? thanks for helping me.
I took 700+ photos (1 battery BTW) in my last D100 wedding.. (with
1.75G worth of memory cards). There's still no way I can shoot RAW
all the way and there is no need to.. there're tons of photos that
will never be enlarged to 8x10.. (more like 4x6).. I ended up using
Medium Fine Jpeg for some of those meaningless "Just for the
record" shots..

Michael
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
 
UNcompressed NEF's are the way to go! I wouldn't shoot a wedding
any other way, lots of latitude in case of White Balance mistakes,
etc.
Dennis D
I'll second Dennis here - UNcompressed RAW is the only way to go! The best quality and quality control will be achieved through NEFs. JPG is suceptable to WB mistakes and has very little latitude for exposure correction should you make a mistake. TIF is a waste of card space IMO.

I have a handful of 256MB cards and a few MD's which can all be downloaded to a laptop if necessary to freee up space.

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Regards,
Joe H.

PPA
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http://www.biggerboatstudios.com

(Sarcasm Included - some assembly required.)
 
i'm on the RAW bandwagon. i'm going to go out and spend some cash to get enough 512 cards to last the entire weddings....i have a g3 laptop, but it's slow. plus i work in the bay area and people steal your stuff around here. so i can be bringin lots of extra stuff! but for tomorrow's gig i'm going to bring my laptop because i'll be in marin and their pretty cool there. thanks for all the tips and RAW is the way to go!
UNcompressed NEF's are the way to go! I wouldn't shoot a wedding
any other way, lots of latitude in case of White Balance mistakes,
etc.
Dennis D
I'll second Dennis here - UNcompressed RAW is the only way to go!
The best quality and quality control will be achieved through NEFs.
JPG is suceptable to WB mistakes and has very little latitude for
exposure correction should you make a mistake. TIF is a waste of
card space IMO.

I have a handful of 256MB cards and a few MD's which can all be
downloaded to a laptop if necessary to freee up space.

--
Regards,
Joe H.

PPA
---------------------------------------
http://www.biggerboatstudios.com

(Sarcasm Included - some assembly required.)
 
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
Before I shot my first wedding with my D100, I took lots of pictures of the same subjects using Raw, Tiff and jpeg fine. The results were such that after blowing the picture up to a size far greater than 10x8 no differences could be noticed by me. I then simulated a wedding using the 3 formats and believe me, if you shoot with raw or tiff you are going to end up in a situation where the camera is frozen whils't writing to the card. This would be very embarrasing. I used jpeg fine and have sold as many re-prints as I ever did with film. (all 10x8) One thing though, as it is relatively new to me, I did alter the levels on photoshop on many pictures. (usually auto levels was enough). Hope this helps, Mal
 
Hi Has, I have 33 - 256mb cards and 2 - 512mb cards. I had a Digital Wallet but it was too much trouble to mess with it during a wedding so I sold it and started buying cards (one or two a week).

Now that the 14 megapixel Kodak is out (with maybe a Nikon 14mp Nikon out soon) I looks like I'll need a few more cards!
Dennis D
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
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Dennis D
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Dennis D
 
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
If you feel confident in your ability to get the exposure right the first time, JPEG should be fine. Many pros use JPEG workflows because they cannot afford the reduced productivity of a RAW workflow.

Avoid compressed NEF. Not only is it a lossy compression (thus cancelling the primary benefit of a RAW format), but compressed NEF mode is also too slow to be of any use outside a studio.
 
You imply that Tiff and Raw are slow. I agree about Tiff, but couldn't imagine using it except under very unusual circumstances. It's slower than Raw, bigger than Raw, and less quality than Raw. As for Raw (NEF), I suspect you had compression on, which changes the time from about 6 seconds to 40. Six seconds I can live with (with the 4 shot buffer).
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
Before I shot my first wedding with my D100, I took lots of
pictures of the same subjects using Raw, Tiff and jpeg fine. The
results were such that after blowing the picture up to a size far
greater than 10x8 no differences could be noticed by me. I then
simulated a wedding using the 3 formats and believe me, if you
shoot with raw or tiff you are going to end up in a situation where
the camera is frozen whils't writing to the card. This would be
very embarrasing. I used jpeg fine and have sold as many re-prints
as I ever did with film. (all 10x8) One thing though, as it is
relatively new to me, I did alter the levels on photoshop on many
pictures. (usually auto levels was enough). Hope this helps, Mal
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DaveA
 
hi,

yes, i am a professional. i normally shoot in medium format, 6x4.5
cm. i have two 512 cards, two 256 cards and 2 128mb cards (had to
get them in a hurry). do you think for the reception, i can go down
to jpg fine?

is jpg fine good for 8x10?
And a newbie amateur D100 user at that, so perhaps the pros can give better advice. I would THINK you could "get away" with using "Large-Fine" JPEG and either using "Normal" or "Auto" on the sharpening settings. As most have noted, the D100 is very conservative (intentionally) on in-camera sharpening of JPEGs since it's more difficult to "undo" sharpening once it's been done to the original image. It has a more "Film-like" quality to it versus the blown-out, over sharpened images that come out of P&S consumer cams like the Sony 707.

While I think RAW will offer you the optimal quality, 8x10 is easily attainable using JPEGs.

Don't just take my word for it however. Hopefully some of the more knowledgeable pros will chime in.

Brendan

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D100, MB-D100, 70-200 f/2.8 EX APO IF HSM, 105 f/2.8 EX Macro, AF-S 24-85G, 80-400 'VR', 50mm 1.8D, SB-80DX, Lowepro
 
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
I just had some 8x10s printed from jpg fine files and they are excellent. Hard to tell they weren't from film. I would shoot the reception jpg fine without any worries at all. Probably are not going to sell many 8x10s from it anyway.
 
hi scott,

this was my original thought. because, at least for me, it seems that all the critical shots are done before the reception. by next week, i will have enough memory to shoot 300 shots in raw (about 6-512 cards). but today, i only have 1.7 gig of cards, but i'm also going to bring my laptop to download.

many people here tend to think that raw is the way to go. theoretically speaking, i would agree with them. but the raw images seem to take longer to open in photoshop, etc.

btw-does anybody know if Sam's Club can print a RAW file? i called them last week and they quoted me .15 cents for each 4x6 direct from the media card or cd rom. but i don't know if it is only for .jpg or RAW
i need help deciding which image quality to use for photos that
would be for 8x10! is jpg fine good enough? someone told me it
wasn't! also, should i use Raw compressed for images that will be
enlarged to 16x20?
I just had some 8x10s printed from jpg fine files and they are
excellent. Hard to tell they weren't from film. I would shoot the
reception jpg fine without any worries at all. Probably are not
going to sell many 8x10s from it anyway.
 

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