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For those interested in helping me out. This is not bashing 7D.

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In these shots I was using one-shot AF with single AF area selection mode. Spot AF was also turned on. I was using the focus point nearest to the eye on vertical position. Camera setting was ISO 800, f/3.2, 1/320. I took a lot of shots with this setting and most of the shots were OOF. I used high iso to avoid camera shake.

Straight from camera no PP.

 
The pic is too small to see much. At f3.2 you don't have much DOF if your spot AF was slightly out.
 
The lens was 16-35L. I don't remember the focal length.
 
Post a 100% crop of the bride's eyes and it might be easier to tell what's up. My impression is that shooting f.3.2 is going to give you too soft an image. Also, I'm not quite sure the 16-35 is the right lens for weddings but there are probably those here who would differ.
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Joe Hawblitzel
 
Exif data in the photo shows FL = 23 if I'm not mistaken.

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Lens focal length: 23
 
I use this lens all the time with great results. Not a bad lens on a crop camera but too wide sometimes on my 5DII. It all depends.
Joe Hawblitzel said:
Post a 100% crop of the bride's eyes and it might be easier to tell what's up. My impression is that shooting f.3.2 is going to give you too soft an image. Also, I'm not quite sure the 16-35 is the right lens for weddings but there are probably those here who would differ.
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Joe Hawblitzel
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Agreed, I use a 17-40 all of the time on a 1.6x crop camera and am very pleased with the results. You need to post a larger crop and how about one showing the AF point? Have you sharpened the image? How does it appear? I can't tell the focal plane from the small image that you posted to even guess whether is is in focus or not.
amobi said:
I use this lens all the time with great results. Not a bad lens on a crop camera but too wide sometimes on my 5DII. It all depends.
Joe Hawblitzel said:
Post a 100% crop of the bride's eyes and it might be easier to tell what's up. My impression is that shooting f.3.2 is going to give you too soft an image. Also, I'm not quite sure the 16-35 is the right lens for weddings but there are probably those here who would differ.
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Joe Hawblitzel
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This image was OOF focus. No amount of Sharpening will rescue it. Looking at DPP the focus point was very close to her left eye.
Adam2 said:
Agreed, I use a 17-40 all of the time on a 1.6x crop camera and am very pleased with the results. You need to post a larger crop and how about one showing the AF point? Have you sharpened the image? How does it appear? I can't tell the focal plane from the small image that you posted to even guess whether is is in focus or not.
amobi said:
I use this lens all the time with great results. Not a bad lens on a crop camera but too wide sometimes on my 5DII. It all depends.
Joe Hawblitzel said:
Post a 100% crop of the bride's eyes and it might be easier to tell what's up. My impression is that shooting f.3.2 is going to give you too soft an image. Also, I'm not quite sure the 16-35 is the right lens for weddings but there are probably those here who would differ.
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Joe Hawblitzel
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amobi said:
This image was OOF focus. No amount of Sharpening will rescue it. Looking at DPP the focus point was very close to her left eye.
Adam2 said:
Agreed, I use a 17-40 all of the time on a 1.6x crop camera and am very pleased with the results. You need to post a larger crop and how about one showing the AF point? Have you sharpened the image? How does it appear? I can't tell the focal plane from the small image that you posted to even guess whether is is in focus or not.
amobi said:
I use this lens all the time with great results. Not a bad lens on a crop camera but too wide sometimes on my 5DII. It all depends.
Joe Hawblitzel said:
Post a 100% crop of the bride's eyes and it might be easier to tell what's up. My impression is that shooting f.3.2 is going to give you too soft an image. Also, I'm not quite sure the 16-35 is the right lens for weddings but there are probably those here who would differ.
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Joe Hawblitzel
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There really should be some area that is IN FOCUS. The floor or the dress should show somewhere a sharp zone at the right focusing distance. Impossible to say more, but this just looks soft. If it is OOF it should be front OR backfocusing . "focus" can not totally disappear or go out - or it can if softening is used or if there is motion blur.

You are not giving enough right kind of information about a problem - nobody can solve it without right clues or tools.... or without the original/a big file
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My 7D with 17 55 has similar inconsistent focus problems in the range of 2.8-4.5 (more obvious in portrait than in landscape). I think the camera sends the red lock signal before really lock on the subject. Maybe the IS is making the problem, don't know (In my 40d was great). In live view the focus is really better.
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There isn't enough resolution in the supplied image to make a subjective determination of where the critical focus was located.

Perhaps the clue is in the "Distance to Subject = -1/1 m". Doesn't a negative number imply that the camera failed to achieve focus lock?

If set in Av mode, the shutter speed will vary and not remain at 1/320. I'm guessing that there is no point where the image can be said to be "in focus", either front or back focused.

Can we have an image that has enough resolution to inspect more closely?
  • Exposure Time (1 / Shutter Speed) = 1/400 second ===> 0.0025 second
  • Lens F-Number / F-Stop = 32/10 ===> ƒ 3.2
  • Exposure Program = aperture priority (3)
  • ISO Speed Ratings = 800
  • Exif Version = 0221
  • Original Date/Time = 2010:04:17 10:44:05
  • Digitization Date/Time = 2010:04:17 10:44:05
  • Shutter Speed Value (APEX) = 8643856/1000000
Shutter Speed (Exposure Time) = 1/400 second
  • Aperture Value (APEX) = 3356144/1000000
Aperture = ƒ 3.2
  • Exposure Bias (EV) = 1/3 ===> 0.33
  • Max Aperture Value (APEX) = 3/1 ===> 3
Max Aperture = ƒ 2.83
  • Distance to Subject = -1/1 m
  • Metering Mode = pattern / multi-segment (5)
  • Flash = Flash did not fire, compulsory flash mode
  • Focal Length = 23/1 mm ===> 23 mm
  • Original Subsecond Time = 00
  • Digitized Subsecond Time = 00
  • Colour Space = sRGB (1)
  • Image Width = 564 pixels
  • Image Height = 800 pixels
  • Focal Plane X-Resolution = 5184000/907 ===> 5715.55
  • Focal Plane Y-Resolution = 3456000/595 ===> 5808.4
  • Focal Plane X/Y-Resolution Unit = inch (2)
  • Custom Rendered = normal process (0)
  • Exposure Mode = auto exposure (0)
  • White Balance = auto (0)
  • Scene Capture Type = standard (0)
amobi said:
In these shots I was using one-shot AF with single AF area selection mode. Spot AF was also turned on. I was using the focus point nearest to the eye on vertical position. Camera setting was ISO 800, f/3.2, 1/320. I took a lot of shots with this setting and most of the shots were OOF. I used high iso to avoid camera shake.

Straight from camera no PP.
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I can take this type of shots with my 1DIIn with no issues.
apiza said:
My 7D with 17 55 has similar inconsistent focus problems in the range of 2.8-4.5 (more obvious in portrait than in landscape). I think the camera sends the red lock signal before really lock on the subject. Maybe the IS is making the problem, don't know (In my 40d was great). In live view the focus is really better.
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http://www.apiza.com
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Have to agree with some others here that (at least in this small image) nothing appears to be in focus anywhere. You've got just a plain old soft shot. If you don't mind having the image dissected, you can upload here.... http://www.yousendit.com/cms/compareaccounts and get a free account. You can even upload the raw and post a link here.

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I am as ignorant as ever, and wiser than I've ever been.
 
I have an account already. How do one upload an image.
jm67 said:
Have to agree with some others here that (at least in this small image) nothing appears to be in focus anywhere. You've got just a plain old soft shot. If you don't mind having the image dissected, you can upload here.... http://www.yousendit.com/cms/compareaccounts and get a free account. You can even upload the raw and post a link here.

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I am as ignorant as ever, and wiser than I've ever been.
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I would have chosen a different background for such a pretty bride.

Remember, the 7D with all its fancy pants settings won't tell you if you have a distracting background.



r/Mike

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This is off topic. The issue here is not the background. I have plenty of good images from this wedding with my 5DII in a good background. I'm trying to get a handle on my 7D.
Port Royal Dad said:
I would have chosen a different background for such a pretty bride.

Remember, the 7D with all its fancy pants settings won't tell you if you have a distracting background.



r/Mike

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B.R.A.S.S. (Breathe, Relax, Aim, Sight, Squeeze)

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Port Royal Dad said:
I would have chosen a different background for such a pretty bride.

Remember, the 7D with all its fancy pants settings won't tell you if you have a distracting background.

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Mike,

Nice job. I sure would have liked to see that if you had a full resolution picture to start with.
Phil
 
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