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G3 - Phil's review - will it make you buy it ?

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James T said:
if phil gives a production model version of the g3 a favorable
review, there is no doubt whatsoever that i will be buying one.
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Uhm, if Phil gives the G3 an UNfavorable review, I will still buy it. Just contrary, I guess. I bought the Fuji FinePix 4700. His review of that camera was not exactly favorable. Phil has had some fixations (IMHO), one of them being so called Smart Media cards (I like them even if I will be switching to Compact Flash cards with the G3). Another has been his hang-up with the Super CCD of Fuji. Hey, he may be right on all counts even if he pans the G3 (I don't think he really will) but, in the final analysis, I can say I was ready to buy the G2 and the G3 looks vastly improved, so don't confuse me with facts. I am going to buy a G3 and I don't really want to hear any bad news about it. (He, He)
 
What I don't want is the picture altered in any way for example using Photoshop.

What I do want is the camera settings which are usually provided by the file, and a brief description of the environment (bright sun, cloudy, flash if any, etc.)
This way I learn much more :)

If Phil has way to much time on his hands, hahahaha, he could also provide a Photoshop or altered sample and give the steps he used to alter it.
This way I learn EVEN more ;)

Thefaithman
Andree Månsson said:
After having read through this thread I must say that it's one of
the craziest I've read....

Don't get me wrong here people, I'm certainly not out to bash
anyone, but requests for bad pictures????

OFCOURSE it's possible to take out of focus shots with the G2. And
the G3. And the D60..

But I think everyone understans this. What lays at the bottom of
this swamp, I think, is that there's lots of people experiencing
that some (a majority?) of their photos come out soft or blurry?

As for myself, when something like this happens, I naturally assume
that I messed up, not the camera. I throw away the piture and give
it another shot (I bought a digital after all).
If I ever should find myself in a situation where the AF actually
doen't work after a few tries (extremely rare with my G2- some
macro situations when I haven't pushed the "macro flower" and or at
maximum tele, or in low light senarios), I just switch to manual
focus and I'm done.

If you're not interested enough to find out how the manual focus or
manual modes work, MY opinion is that it's probalby better to by a
cheaper camera.

If your camera consistantly produces poor quality pictures, you'd
probably be able to reproduce it fairly easily. That means that you
turn it in for a new one.

Sure- like someone said: a sportscar/motorcycle can make different
impressions on different people. But it's for YOU to decide what
sort of camera you need!

You can't buy a racing car and then "complain" that the suspension
is to stiff.

And I don't think you should buy a camera indended for the "serious
amateur or semi professional" and then say that your lack of
experience can't bring out the cameras best performance at all
times. It's just not fair.

I don't know about you, but before I bought the G2 I scanned around
looking for photos taken with it. After having seen brilliant
examples in bright light/low light/long exposures/macros and bigh
view I KNOW what my camera is capable of. Now I've just made it my
hobby to learn to produce equally great pictures. And that means I
realize I can't always put the camera in AUTO and make a snapshot.

If you use AUTO most of the time, this doesn't make you a worse
photographer, but maybe the Gx cameras aren't for you?

Oh.. enough ranting from me already.. but still...

Before I end this, I just want to state once more that this is NOT
aimed at anyone. I'm just trying to shed a little light on a
mentality that we all suffer from now and then.

In the meantime, I hope Phil keeps taking a million pictures and
then posts the 10 best for us to see.

Just like every other photographer that is....

Kind reagards

Andrée
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i should have been more clear

if he gives it a good review i will buy

if he gives it a bad review there is still a good chance i will buy
if many others give it a good review

i am not basing my decision on one man's opinion
Fred R. Suza said:
James T said:
if phil gives a production model version of the g3 a favorable
review, there is no doubt whatsoever that i will be buying one.
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Uhm, if Phil gives the G3 an UNfavorable review, I will still buy
it. Just contrary, I guess. I bought the Fuji FinePix 4700. His
review of that camera was not exactly favorable. Phil has had some
fixations (IMHO), one of them being so called Smart Media cards (I
like them even if I will be switching to Compact Flash cards with
the G3). Another has been his hang-up with the Super CCD of Fuji.
Hey, he may be right on all counts even if he pans the G3 (I don't
think he really will) but, in the final analysis, I can say I was
ready to buy the G2 and the G3 looks vastly improved, so don't
confuse me with facts. I am going to buy a G3 and I don't really
want to hear any bad news about it. (He, He)
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Jim
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G2 has the sharpest images and not owning a G2 means SOFT FOCUS IS A FIGMENT OF THE NON-OWNERS IMAGINATION.

The E4500 does soft focus. Downloading the review samples shows this. Let the reader sample gallery be for amateur shots. The only thing missing in a review is a real indoor flash shot which is not a big deal.

What you ask for is only for amateurs yet the top 10 specification hits on this site as of this moment are not beginner/amateur targeted cameras.

5700, G3, G2, S40, S45, IXUSv3, S602Z, D100, EOS-D60, S30. Yet even first time buyers are avoiding the 2 Meg cameras and upgrading later. Once newbies see G2 prints they want that as their first digital and nothing less will do.

The G3 will be a good pick provided, yes the review is good and the images will equal or better the G2 because a G3 will be quicker. eL
Logopro said:
When Phil brings out his review,

How many of you will buy the G3, if he gives it a good review ?

By the way, - I never saw any issues about soft focus on his
G2 review

I guess it's all a figment of "our" imagination, if Phil didn't
find this in
any image he took with the G2.

I also note something else, - Phil never posts any image that is not
pretty well "perfect".......... you won't see a single out of focus
image,
nor a "soft" focused image ....
he only picks the best of the best, - what's the reason for that ?

If you are going to give a camera a real review, then please post
images that normal everyday people like us would take.

Post everyday shots, even if they came out blurry, or have a soft
focus to them, - this to me makes the experience just more
realistic.

Don't get me wrong, Phil's reviews on cameras are second to none,
and there's nobody else out there that even comes close, but please
shoot some "amateur" shots that we, the viewers here can relate to,
and post those also in your review :-)

Mark.
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I will buy a G3 regardless what Phil's says. I parted with my beloved Black G2 in anticipation of the G3. You know the G2 was a great camera, with the improvements Canon has made the G3 it can only be even better. I for one am glad that they choose to leave it a 4mp camera, for me anything more would be overkill and a waste of storage. I believe that Canons 4mp is as good or superior to any 5mp on the market. The little bit of extra zoom is also a plus, when traveling with my 35mm SLR, I normally only carried a 135mm zoom lens(even though I owned several larger ones) this is equivalent to the G3's 4x. They have also address some of the issues that the G2 had. How can you go wrong buying a G3, even the price looks to be about the same as my black G2 was! Count me in, great job Canon!
Logopro said:
When Phil brings out his review,

How many of you will buy the G3, if he gives it a good review ?

By the way, - I never saw any issues about soft focus on his
G2 review

I guess it's all a figment of "our" imagination, if Phil didn't
find this in
any image he took with the G2.

I also note something else, - Phil never posts any image that is not
pretty well "perfect".......... you won't see a single out of focus
image,
nor a "soft" focused image ....
he only picks the best of the best, - what's the reason for that ?

If you are going to give a camera a real review, then please post
images that normal everyday people like us would take.

Post everyday shots, even if they came out blurry, or have a soft
focus to them, - this to me makes the experience just more
realistic.

Don't get me wrong, Phil's reviews on cameras are second to none,
and there's nobody else out there that even comes close, but please
shoot some "amateur" shots that we, the viewers here can relate to,
and post those also in your review :-)

Mark.
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How's the macro ability on the G2? Low light use? External flash?
Will these areas be improved with the G3?

I also intend on getting a housing for which ever camera I purchase to be used underwater, at some point.
I'm also looking at the 707/717 and the 5700

Thanks
Joe
SWL said:
Logopro said:
When Phil brings out his review,

How many of you will buy the G3, if he gives it a good review ?

By the way, - I never saw any issues about soft focus on his
G2 review

I guess it's all a figment of "our" imagination, if Phil didn't
find this in
any image he took with the G2.

I also note something else, - Phil never posts any image that is not
pretty well "perfect".......... you won't see a single out of focus
image,
nor a "soft" focused image ....
he only picks the best of the best, - what's the reason for that ?

If you are going to give a camera a real review, then please post
images that normal everyday people like us would take.

Post everyday shots, even if they came out blurry, or have a soft
focus to them, - this to me makes the experience just more
realistic.

Don't get me wrong, Phil's reviews on cameras are second to none,
and there's nobody else out there that even comes close, but please
shoot some "amateur" shots that we, the viewers here can relate to,
and post those also in your review :-)

Mark.
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SWL wrote:
I for one am glad that they choose to leave it
Slap Shot said:
a 4mp camera, for me anything more would be overkill and a waste of
storage.
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SWL,

I agree 100% but I still picked up a G2.
Just out of curiousity, what did you sell the
Black G2 for?

Cheers,

JRS
 
Logopro said:
When Phil brings out his review,

How many of you will buy the G3, if he gives it a good review ?

By the way, - I never saw any issues about soft focus on his
G2 review

I guess it's all a figment of "our" imagination, if Phil didn't
find this in
any image he took with the G2.

I also note something else, - Phil never posts any image that is not
pretty well "perfect".......... you won't see a single out of focus
image,
nor a "soft" focused image ....
he only picks the best of the best, - what's the reason for that ?

If you are going to give a camera a real review, then please post
images that normal everyday people like us would take.

Post everyday shots, even if they came out blurry, or have a soft
focus to them, - this to me makes the experience just more
realistic.

Don't get me wrong, Phil's reviews on cameras are second to none,
and there's nobody else out there that even comes close, but please
shoot some "amateur" shots that we, the viewers here can relate to,
and post those also in your review :-)

Mark.
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In my opinion Phil's reviews are alot more thorough than most the other sites. I will wait till I see his review of the G3 before I even think of upgrading my G1 ( the G2 wasn't worth an upgrade in my opinion). I would like more info on the specs of the G3 than just what Canon deemed to release....

MYSTIC
 
BeanCounter said:
If you are going to give a camera a real review, then please post
images that normal everyday people like us would take.
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Are you suggesting he should take test shots at night while downhill skiing, shooting landscapes in macro mode with his finger over the lens?

And maybe based on other brand faults, he should try harder to see if it electrocutes him.

:)

Just kidding, I've not seen one of Phil's reviews in a while, but perhaps there just needs to be an additional test for low light focussing.
BeanCounter said:
nor a "soft" focused image ....
he only picks the best of the best, - what's the reason for that ?
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There's not much point posting pics where the photographer is the cause, but it might be worth highlighting diffiuculties (if any) in acquiring that picture perfect review shot.
  • Rog
 
I have a lot of respect for Phil's reviews, but personally I don't intend to wait around and see what he says about the G3. I've owned a G1, a G2 and a series of EOS 35mm cameras, and have been very happy with Canon gear. I've read the Canon Press Release and studied the list of new and improved features, and I'm perfectly satisfied that this camera will be worth the upgrade for my needs. I'm trading in my G2 as soon as my G3 arrives. It will be great if Phil's review validates my decision, but my experience with both the G1 and G2 has been great, and I'm comfortable making the decision on my own.

Dan
http://www.pbase.com/digital_edge
Logopro said:
When Phil brings out his review,

How many of you will buy the G3, if he gives it a good review ?

By the way, - I never saw any issues about soft focus on his
G2 review

I guess it's all a figment of "our" imagination, if Phil didn't
find this in
any image he took with the G2.

I also note something else, - Phil never posts any image that is not
pretty well "perfect".......... you won't see a single out of focus
image,
nor a "soft" focused image ....
he only picks the best of the best, - what's the reason for that ?

If you are going to give a camera a real review, then please post
images that normal everyday people like us would take.

Post everyday shots, even if they came out blurry, or have a soft
focus to them, - this to me makes the experience just more
realistic.

Don't get me wrong, Phil's reviews on cameras are second to none,
and there's nobody else out there that even comes close, but please
shoot some "amateur" shots that we, the viewers here can relate to,
and post those also in your review :-)

Mark.
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I must be a photographer - I keep running around in circles of confusion.
 
BeanCounter said:
I also note something else, - Phil never posts any image that is not
pretty well "perfect".......... you won't see a single out of focus
image,
nor a "soft" focused image ....
he only picks the best of the best, - what's the reason for that ?
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This site has links to camera sellers. We click and buy and the site gets a piece of the action. How much action would a camera with bad photos get?
Logopro said:
When Phil brings out his review,

How many of you will buy the G3, if he gives it a good review ?

By the way, - I never saw any issues about soft focus on his
G2 review

I guess it's all a figment of "our" imagination, if Phil didn't
find this in
any image he took with the G2.

I also note something else, - Phil never posts any image that is not
pretty well "perfect".......... you won't see a single out of focus
image,
nor a "soft" focused image ....
he only picks the best of the best, - what's the reason for that ?

If you are going to give a camera a real review, then please post
images that normal everyday people like us would take.

Post everyday shots, even if they came out blurry, or have a soft
focus to them, - this to me makes the experience just more
realistic.

Don't get me wrong, Phil's reviews on cameras are second to none,
and there's nobody else out there that even comes close, but please
shoot some "amateur" shots that we, the viewers here can relate to,
and post those also in your review :-)

Mark.
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Toad said:
J.R.:

What? You? I thought you were an Optio man through and through!
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Hi Rob,

Yep. I been selling them both and I looked at the features that I
needed........actually, wanted...........and the G2 was the camera
for me. I don't know what my Pentax rep is going to think or say !

Cheers,

Jack
Toad said:
Best
Toad
J.R.Simpson said:
I agree 100% but I still picked up a G2.
Just out of curiousity, what did you sell the
Black G2 for?

Cheers,

JRS
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Jack:

Welcome to the "Dark Side".

Toad
J.R.Simpson said:
Hi Rob,

Yep. I been selling them both and I looked at the features that I
needed........actually, wanted...........and the G2 was the camera
for me. I don't know what my Pentax rep is going to think or say !

Cheers,

Jack
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I think good photographers like Phil think about what they're doing when they take pictures, and as a result their pictures are well focused.

I also think a lot of us should learn from that.
BeanCounter said:
I also note something else, - Phil never posts any image that is not
pretty well "perfect".......... you won't see a single out of focus
image,
nor a "soft" focused image ....
he only picks the best of the best, - what's the reason for that ?

Mark.
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http://www.photo.net/shared/community-member?user_id=350641
 
Giordano Biondani said:
I think good photographers like Phil think about what they're doing
when they take pictures, and as a result their pictures are well
focused.
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Giordano,

No offense but I don't necessarily think that Mr. Askey is a good
photographer. He is good at reviewing digital camera gear and
can take decent enough shots for his tests and he certainly does
well with his website.

Cheers,

JRS
Giordano Biondani said:
I also think a lot of us should learn from that.
Giordano Biondani said:
I also note something else, - Phil never posts any image that is not
pretty well "perfect".......... you won't see a single out of focus
image,
nor a "soft" focused image ....
he only picks the best of the best, - what's the reason for that ?

Mark.
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http://www.photo.net/shared/community-member?user_id=350641
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