Villamarcel
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At we'll have something for K7 and 645D.
And you can announce a new fonctionnality without adding cost.
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Francois
And you can announce a new fonctionnality without adding cost.
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Pentax, please ask Adobe to develop Tethering for your cameras
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Leo
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I think that Pentax has also pay for it.....
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Villamarcel
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I am not sure that Canon and Nikon paid for it in Lightroom.
Therefore, May be Pentax could ask for it.
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Therefore, May be Pentax could ask for it.
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Brentliris
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On an off chance you might try Bibble Pro, I know version 4 had tethered shooting for the K20, and K200, it's had a major update recently and was previously a very decent program. If pentax could pressure any software developer for implimenting tethered shooting it would likely be the developers of Silkypix.
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... defacto tethering in the form of HDMI.
Yes I know it's not the real thing but I don't expect Hoya to offer much more.
If they were serious about tethering, it would be in the feature list of the new 645D... but it's not and that should tell you something about Pentax and the future of tethering.
For purely monitoring purposes HDMI works well BUT requires a dedicated monitor.
This is a pain in the a*rse for location work when under 'normal' circumstance you would just use a laptop which is part of most photographers kit anyway.
I had a location job back in February that required monitoring by a PR company during the shoot. There was up to 20 people in the shots during a 1 hour, 300 pic session.
There was no oppourtunity to re-shoot it later so I had to drag my PC monitor along to the location as the PR guy insisted on directing the shoot.
I had to track down a 3 metre (10 foot) HDMI > HDMI (mini) cable the week before the job as most cables I found were far too short to be of any use.
Half way through the job a hyperactive 6 y/o ran screaming through the middle of the setup and went straight through the HDMI cable ripping the connector off the end of the cable at the camera end and nearly toppling the camera onto the floor.
The very first response I got from the PR guy was not "Where is this kids mother?" but "What do you mean you don't have another cable!"
Needless to say the cost of the cable went on the bill!
Yes I know it's not the real thing but I don't expect Hoya to offer much more.
If they were serious about tethering, it would be in the feature list of the new 645D... but it's not and that should tell you something about Pentax and the future of tethering.
For purely monitoring purposes HDMI works well BUT requires a dedicated monitor.
This is a pain in the a*rse for location work when under 'normal' circumstance you would just use a laptop which is part of most photographers kit anyway.
I had a location job back in February that required monitoring by a PR company during the shoot. There was up to 20 people in the shots during a 1 hour, 300 pic session.
There was no oppourtunity to re-shoot it later so I had to drag my PC monitor along to the location as the PR guy insisted on directing the shoot.
I had to track down a 3 metre (10 foot) HDMI > HDMI (mini) cable the week before the job as most cables I found were far too short to be of any use.
Half way through the job a hyperactive 6 y/o ran screaming through the middle of the setup and went straight through the HDMI cable ripping the connector off the end of the cable at the camera end and nearly toppling the camera onto the floor.
The very first response I got from the PR guy was not "Where is this kids mother?" but "What do you mean you don't have another cable!"
Needless to say the cost of the cable went on the bill!
Villamarcel
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Yes HDMI can answer partly to the question but It can be useful to be able to have the whole process chain in one software as it is the case with Lightroom 3 : You shoot, you adjust and you print out in a minute without any SD card move.
Tethering shooting is the helpful for santaclaus pictures with children during christmas social events for instance.
Another situation :
A point is to see the shot another one is to be able to do the settings of post production under the control of the client. In this case tethering can't be rplace by HDMI.
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Tethering shooting is the helpful for santaclaus pictures with children during christmas social events for instance.
Another situation :
A point is to see the shot another one is to be able to do the settings of post production under the control of the client. In this case tethering can't be rplace by HDMI.
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Francois
Yes I know.
That's why I called it 'defacto' tethering.
But I'm afraid with Pentax's tiny market share that's all you're likely to ever get, at least with their current offerings.
If you are not satisified with that then you know what your choices are... N*kon or C*non!
To be serious, if you are starting out working professionally and are looking at a camera system then, all fanboy emotions aside, Pentax should NOT be on your list!
I was at a crossroads nearly 12 months ago with a DS and half dozen lenses.
I had to upgrade my camera in a hurry to keep some freelance work.
I went with a K-7 but in hindsight I should not have.
Had I known before hand that the K-7 did not support real tethering I would not be posting on this forum as I would no longer own any Pentax gear.
Knowing that would have made the decision to change systems easy.
It took more that three months after I bought the K-7, a DA*16-50 and 3 FA Limiteds, to discover Pentax had dropped tethering altogether with the release of the K-7. NO ONE, not the Australian distributor (CR Kennedy) or the dealer could tell me definatively that Pentax was no longer supporting tethering. Even emails I sent to Japan went unanswered.
So I should just have 'bitten the bullet' and gone 'Canikon'.
Tethering, lens availabilty (inc. hiring options) better AF, high ISO etc. etc.
When you need to earn an income brand loyalty is at the bottom of the list.
That's why I called it 'defacto' tethering.
But I'm afraid with Pentax's tiny market share that's all you're likely to ever get, at least with their current offerings.
If you are not satisified with that then you know what your choices are... N*kon or C*non!
To be serious, if you are starting out working professionally and are looking at a camera system then, all fanboy emotions aside, Pentax should NOT be on your list!
I was at a crossroads nearly 12 months ago with a DS and half dozen lenses.
I had to upgrade my camera in a hurry to keep some freelance work.
I went with a K-7 but in hindsight I should not have.
Had I known before hand that the K-7 did not support real tethering I would not be posting on this forum as I would no longer own any Pentax gear.
Knowing that would have made the decision to change systems easy.
It took more that three months after I bought the K-7, a DA*16-50 and 3 FA Limiteds, to discover Pentax had dropped tethering altogether with the release of the K-7. NO ONE, not the Australian distributor (CR Kennedy) or the dealer could tell me definatively that Pentax was no longer supporting tethering. Even emails I sent to Japan went unanswered.
So I should just have 'bitten the bullet' and gone 'Canikon'.
Tethering, lens availabilty (inc. hiring options) better AF, high ISO etc. etc.
When you need to earn an income brand loyalty is at the bottom of the list.
Tan68
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they finally finished the revision ? ... !! good to hear this.
i was considering their product
wasn't going to do it until i saw the update.
i think they were guaranteeing a free upgrade to the new version for those that purchased the about-to-be-superseded version. but, it had been taking them sooo long with no release date (even tentative) set, i figured i would decline that offer.
i was considering their product
wasn't going to do it until i saw the update.
i think they were guaranteeing a free upgrade to the new version for those that purchased the about-to-be-superseded version. but, it had been taking them sooo long with no release date (even tentative) set, i figured i would decline that offer.
richardday
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Hopefully Ned is reading this and if so maybe he can use his relationship with Adobe (he worked for them in the past) and suggest that they include Pentax in their tethering options in Lightroom 3.
I would also hope that as Pentax is a major supporter of using DNG as a native camera format, that Adobe would be keen to reciprocate and support Pentax.
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I would also hope that as Pentax is a major supporter of using DNG as a native camera format, that Adobe would be keen to reciprocate and support Pentax.
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richardday
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... http://forums.adobe.com/thread/601758?tstart=30
It will probably mean that Pentax will have to provide a SDK to Adobe, but who knows what could happen?!
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It will probably mean that Pentax will have to provide a SDK to Adobe, but who knows what could happen?!
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An even more enlightened thing to do would be to publish the SDK and encourage the open source world to become involved. I would jump at such a project.... http://forums.adobe.com/thread/601758?tstart=30
It will probably mean that Pentax will have to provide a SDK to Adobe, but who knows what could happen?!
Peter.
Tan68
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the tethered shooting will not allow you to adjust exposure. it isn't as sophisticated as some solutions but still more so than the HDMI work around:
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10032402lightroombetaupdate.asp
The other headline change is the ability to use Lightroom for tethered capture. 'Initially we'll be shipping with support for a limited number of Nikon and Canon cameras. We wanted to make it super-simple, showing the camera settings and allowing you to grab an image.' For now, the company has decided not to offer the ability to change the camera settings from the software because, Hogarty points out 'with the way interfaces have developed, it's super-simple to change them on the camera.'
Click here to find out more!
http://www.dpreview.com/news/1003/10032402lightroombetaupdate.asp
The other headline change is the ability to use Lightroom for tethered capture. 'Initially we'll be shipping with support for a limited number of Nikon and Canon cameras. We wanted to make it super-simple, showing the camera settings and allowing you to grab an image.' For now, the company has decided not to offer the ability to change the camera settings from the software because, Hogarty points out 'with the way interfaces have developed, it's super-simple to change them on the camera.'
Click here to find out more!
... http://forums.adobe.com/thread/601758?tstart=30
It will probably mean that Pentax will have to provide a SDK to Adobe, but who knows what could happen?!
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Villamarcel
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It is absolutly right, the point is first to transmit the data to the compputer as fast as possible.
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Yes, granted, it is much easier to change settings than it was in the past and Pentax have done a good job here.
But after all my careful adjustments to get the macro just right I am reluctant to touch the camera again in case I disturb it it.
Then I find that sometimes I struggle to read the markings on the buttons against the glare of the bright lights. (yes, I know, my eyes are not that good).
So I would love a full featured tethering system.
Peter
ellarsee
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That's good to know. I bought Bibble pro about 2 years ago, and ended up just switching to lightroom. I'll have to finish upgrading to BP 5 and try tethering with my K20 and Kx
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Gerardus
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I think you all all missing the point about thetering....
Also i would NOT have bought K7 if i had known upfront this feature would be lacking...however it cannot be solved by Adobe, Bibble, or any other since the needed software must me in the camera-firmware first to communicate with (and is not in 1.3 i guess)....IF THAT would have been in, linking K7 to the software that does run with K10D and K20D would have been a five minutes job only....
A different approach than the HDMI would be to use a wifi-enabled SDCARD (like the EYE-FI)....that would allow for automatic transfer to a directory after taking a picture, monitored by the Auto-import feature as in Lightroom...and the picture would show up in a matter of seconds on your notebook/monitor. What is still missing than is the possiblility to realy CONTROL the camera settings from the PC/Notebook and fire the shoot-button as with K10/K20.
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Also i would NOT have bought K7 if i had known upfront this feature would be lacking...however it cannot be solved by Adobe, Bibble, or any other since the needed software must me in the camera-firmware first to communicate with (and is not in 1.3 i guess)....IF THAT would have been in, linking K7 to the software that does run with K10D and K20D would have been a five minutes job only....
A different approach than the HDMI would be to use a wifi-enabled SDCARD (like the EYE-FI)....that would allow for automatic transfer to a directory after taking a picture, monitored by the Auto-import feature as in Lightroom...and the picture would show up in a matter of seconds on your notebook/monitor. What is still missing than is the possiblility to realy CONTROL the camera settings from the PC/Notebook and fire the shoot-button as with K10/K20.
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Dont miss my darkroom and Mamiya 645 anymore !
Actually, tethering support is planned for the 645D. Its written on the Japanese 645D spec page:
http://www.pentax.jp/japan/imaging/digital/medium/645d/feature_6.html
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Barry Pearson
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Adobe have said that it is a condition for Lightroom support of tethering that the manufacturer supplies an SDK.It will probably mean that Pentax will have to provide a SDK to Adobe, but who knows what could happen?!
Do Pentax have one for the purpose? If not, it is also Pentax that needs to be lobbied.
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