HX5V Impressions from a non-prosumer

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Hi guys, I am a bit new to posting here at dpreview.com. I have been following this forum lately as I had gotten interested in retiring my old Canon P&S.

What caught my eye when the HX5V was first announced was probably it's GPS/Compass functionality. That was the main highlight for me when I first heard about it. Then, of course, I delved a bit further and read, the marketing material, to find that the camera is suppose to have "superior" night-shooting capabilities and some great camera modes (ie. panoramic shooting, HDR correction and so forth). These were all really great features it seemed like.

I have a really limited background when it comes to photography versus many others who are around these threads.

I own:
Nikon D40x
Canon SD1200IS
Sony T20

So coming into this, I had some high expectations for the camera. As long as quality at 100% when displayed on a laptop or desktop screen was good, then it is good enough for me.

Impressions:

First off, I am going to talk about the worse thing about the camera. Seriously, it is absolutely an atrocity for the camera! The 3.0" LCD display is simply horrendous. I can literally see the scan lines which updates the screen and all the images which were taken in ANY lighting condition turns out A TON more red then what it looks like on a laptop or desktop!

I am not sure if mine is defective or not, but it really isn't acceptable in any way or shape. So I might exchange it to see if the problem persist or not. It could be the LCD panel they choose to put into this camera is simply sub-par.

The good thing about this camera I find is that it is quite a bit smaller than all those press shots make it out to be. Sure it isn't as slim as the TX7 or any of the T-series, but with the lens it packs, I really don't expect it to do so. Also, since some of my older cameras were sort of "bulky" in there own sense, I don't really mind the depth of this P&S.

The camera interface, the dial, and the controls feel pretty sold. I do wish there was a bit more click to the controls in the back though as I feel there is not enough there to tell me I actually pressed the button or not. It really is a minor gripe at the end of things. Otherwise the construction of the camera is a lot more superior then I had expected as it was listed that the camera is made out of "plastic" which makes it sound cheap, but in reality, it feels like a sturdy piece of electronic (like many of the Sony products I own).

Another "negative" which I would like to point out. It's more of an annoyance than anything else. The Full HD AVCHD mode which shoots at 1920x1080 60(i). I hate the interlacing of video, I simply hate it with a passion. As someone who views video and edits them professionally, there is nothing more that erks me than interlaced videos. Sure there are really easy ways to de-interlace with filters and so forth, but it is a huge inconvenience to do so! I am now finding myself using the .mp4 1440x1080 mode simply because I don't need to go through the trouble of de-interlacing. This is another of those minor "issues" I found for the first day in usage.

Shooting modes are probably the biggest draw for me to the new Sony line-up of cameras. From how it is marketed, to how it actually functions, I find that they make my style of casual photography a lot more fun. And that is what I am looking at for a P&S camera. Fun. If I wanted something serious I would go with my D40x, and would have probably bought a D90 or something.

Two functions I haven't figured out on the HX5V, is the smile detection system. It boggles my mind. I might actually need to read the manual for that one!

The dual-slot memory card reader is definitely a welcome addition! The battery is fairly decent with the GPS on. I got about 110 shots dropping only 1 bar. Of course that might not be completely accurate, but I will give it to the camera.

On that note actually, the GPS is very spot on for the most part. I imported all my photos into Aperture 3, and most of the shots are where it is suppose to be. Albeit, I don't think the GPS actually checks it location every single shot though since a lot of them have been lumped into one location. I haven't seen if the Compass works or not since I don't think Aperture takes that info out.

There was a review out....dcresource? Which had a comparison of the Pansonic ZS-7 I think, compared to the HX5V on the GPS side of things. And contrary to what the reviewer didn't like about the HX5V GPS system, I actually love it! It is really minimalist. It tells me if it has connected satelites, low connectivity or high connectivity. And really that is all I need from a camera! I don't need to pull up all the exact GPS coordinates. Does anyone really need to do that? Probably less than 10% of the population does....

Anyways, these are my intial impressions. I am in the process of uploading photos of the first day of photos to my gallery, so check them out and see if you see anything off or on about them.

Here are some samples for now:



















 
I actually didn't touch any of the settings on the camera. Everything was straight out of the box experience with no tweaking what-so-ever.

The room was actually really dim in that shot for the watch, but it turned out fairly nicely.
 
"I hate the interlacing of video, I simply hate it with a passion"

This camera takes video in "Progressive mode"...
 
I realize that, and I believe I stated that in my write-up as well. In order to get to it though, you have to compromise the resolution and quality you are shooting the video at.

AVCHD @ 1920x1080 60i

vs

MP4 H264 @ 1440x1080 23.98p

It is quite a difference, though as I stated before, it isn't necessarily a deal breaker for myself as I know how to work the interlacing issue out. But for others who wish to just burn it straight to disc, they would get issues with watching action clips on screen.
 
But is there any P&S camera shooting 1920x1080 60p ? Even broadcast networks do not use this mode. Probably your HDTV will de-interlace the 1080i for you. It surely does for the broadcast material. Just my $0.02

Is the LCD really that bad. I am interested since I am considering the HX5V. Tell me more if you have the time. TIA
Bert
 
Yea, its true that only some of the top-end camcorders now only do 1080p. So I am not terribly griping the fact that it lacks this. As I stated before, its a minor inconvenience and there are ways around it.

The LCD is quite bad, at least on mine. I am not sure if it is a defect on the one I have or not, but anything that has hints of red is completely overblown versus viewing on a desktop or laptop. I might exchange it to see if it is in fact a manufacturing defect, or it is inherent to the camera.
 
You should definitely exchange it for another to see if there's a defect. Sad to hear if it applies to all the HX5 LCD's, although Tom Hoots didn't really complain too much.
 
Yea, I haven't noticed anything else complaining, so it might be a bad batch or something. Hopefully they have more HX5s in-stock for me to even exchange....
 
Impressions:

First off, I am going to talk about the worse thing about the camera. Seriously, it is absolutely an atrocity for the camera! The 3.0" LCD display is simply horrendous. I can literally see the scan lines which updates the screen and all the images which were taken in ANY lighting condition turns out A TON more red then what it looks like on a laptop or desktop!
I agree. I just received my HX5v yesterday, and the first thing I noticed was the LCD screen. You can actually see the pixels and scan lines like you mentioned, and when set it next to my TX7, there is just no comparison. Also even through it's 3.0" screen, it doesn't actually display the whole screen when you take pictures. There are borders on top and bottom, while on TX7 it's full screen.
The good thing about this camera I find is that it is quite a bit smaller than all those press shots make it out to be. Sure it isn't as slim as the TX7 or any of the T-series, but with the lens it packs, I really don't expect it to do so. Also, since some of my older cameras were sort of "bulky" in there own sense, I don't really mind the depth of this P&S.
I find it similar size as my ex-Panasonic ZS3. Still fit in pockets, but not as discrete. TX7 wins here.
The camera interface, the dial, and the controls feel pretty sold. I do wish there was a bit more click to the controls in the back though as I feel there is not enough there to tell me I actually pressed the button or not. It really is a minor gripe at the end of things. Otherwise the construction of the camera is a lot more superior then I had expected as it was listed that the camera is made out of "plastic" which makes it sound cheap, but in reality, it feels like a sturdy piece of electronic (like many of the Sony products I own).
The construction is the one thing I dislike about the HX5v, and I don't think it feels solid at all. Again I am comparing it to TX7. The whole body is plastic, and it feels very "cheap". The TX7 is all metal body, and feels very sturdy and strong. Just opening the battery door makes me think if it will break after days of wear/tear.
On that note actually, the GPS is very spot on for the most part. I imported all my photos into Aperture 3, and most of the shots are where it is suppose to be. Albeit, I don't think the GPS actually checks it location every single shot though since a lot of them have been lumped into one location. I haven't seen if the Compass works or not since I don't think Aperture takes that info out. See anything off or on about them.
GPS was working great, I was indoor and it was picked up the signals no problem.

The main thing I like about the HX5v was the 10x zoom, and Active Stability in Video, which is noticeable when you are moving. But if you shoot video while standing in one place, you won't tell the difference.

I was going to return the TX7 before I received the HX5v, since HX5v has all the features. But after comparing the construction on both, and rethink my priority on which is more important, and which function is to be used often, then I decided to keep the TX7. Maybe when Sony release a replacement of HX5v in the future, with better construction and 3.5" screen like the TX7, then I will reconsider it.
 
Good thoughts. I didn't really have a Camera to compare with hence why I did not find it to be "cheap."

What I find is that it is hard for me to justify spending an extra $100 CDN on the TX7 with it having "less features".

I don't doubt that it probably feels more solid. And from what I have seen of the LCD it looks amazing + it is touchscreen which is nice.

It really is a toss up at the end of it. Do you need that 10x zoom + GPS or not. Other than that, everything else is fairly comparable (except for that build issue).

Darn Sony for making us choose the best of both worlds sorta thing!
 
Tell me can you adjust the focus in the menu for the video. does it have any choices of Setting 1 meter, 3m, 7m infinity. So, that is does not go in and out of focus. Can you lock down the focus length.

That will decide if I buy it. Just bought the W370 last week and taking it back because you cannot set the video focus, like I can on the old W55,

Thanks,

John
 
maybe I'm spoiled by TX7, but the screen resolution and detail can't compare to TX7. Also borders on top/bottom while in shooting mode is not acceptable. Does yours have borders in shooting mode with 16:9 (2m)?
Just received mine and I don't have issues with LCD screen. Quite possible yours is defective.
 

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