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Why is it that nikon hasnt came out with a new 15mp + DX camera yet? They seem to be way behind on this. Id love to dive into my pockets and shell out cash for a 18mp D300 or something. Everytime I see the 7D it makes me wish my glass would fit on it...lol! Im sure since the upgrade the 300 to shoot hd video its going to be a WHILE til they upgrade the sensor.
 
lmao!! yeah my d90 will have to march on too. Im happy with it and thats all that matters. It would be nice if I went with a brand that actually cared about competing with competition. Canon seems to answer very quickly when competitors get the edge.
 
Hail to the D3S. What will you do better with 18MPix? It's totally useless. IMHO, you'd better get extended dynamic range and a faster cam than a higher pixel count. This is a thing of philosophy. If you dislike Nikon's way to build cameras, sell your stuff and get a Canon, that's it. This way' you'll be able to tell your friends you've got a higher pixel count than them... pathetic...
 
I've actually been suffering from 'Nikon Depression' lol

On a more serious note, the P6000 is a very good camera, and with lots of potential for improvements in a successor. Nikon have stated that they intend to introduce a competitor to the Canon G11. They need to come up with something fairly soon though, as I'm sure everyone is aware, things are moving very quickly in new camera market.
 
I figured there would be one of you chime in...lol. Ppl like you keep the world interesting, thanks for posting.
 
I pretty much agree with VO2Max, although I'd welcome many more megapixels if it can be done without dropping image quality.

The D3s is by far the most desirable DSLR on the market at the moment (imho), and wow it only has 12!
 
nikonist23 said:
Why is it that nikon hasnt came out with a new 15mp + DX camera yet? They seem to be way behind on this. Id love to dive into my pockets and shell out cash for a 18mp D300 or something. Everytime I see the 7D it makes me wish my glass would fit on it...lol! Im sure since the upgrade the 300 to shoot hd video its going to be a WHILE til they upgrade the sensor.
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12MP = 4256 x 2832
15MP = 4743 x 3162 an 11% increase in linear resolution
18MP = 5196 x 3464 a 22% increase in linear resolution

The gain in resolution of a 15MP camera over a 12MP camera is negligible and I doubt that Nikon would consider the development costs worth it. The gain of an 18MP is perhaps more worthwhile but the camera would have to have equal or better characterists as its predecessor - that is, noise, dynamic range etc.

There are far more effective gains to be had by buying better lenses and learning how to use them. Have a look at these photographs taken with a D3S (12MP) at the link below. I don't really see how they would be improved with a 15 or 18MP Nikon camera. I think that the photographer/post processor and lenses are the main contributers to those images.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1021&message=34702781&changemode=1

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Paul
 
VO2Max said:
Hail to the D3S. What will you do better with 18MPix? It's totally useless. IMHO, you'd better get extended dynamic range and a faster cam than a higher pixel count. This is a thing of philosophy. If you dislike Nikon's way to build cameras, sell your stuff and get a Canon, that's it. This way' you'll be able to tell your friends you've got a higher pixel count than them... pathetic...
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I don't agree that it's a difference in philosophy between Nikon and Canon, because Nikon were happy to play the megapixel game on DX up to 12 MP and their Coolpix line have overcrowded noisy sensors. The real reason is that their supplier (Sony) hasn't released anything compelling for them to include in their new bodies. However, once they do master the production of DX sensors > 12 MP (I'm discounting their 14 MP sensor - it wasn't a big enough jump in resolution for Nikon to bother using), you can bet your bottom dollar they find themselves in Nikon cameras.

PS - FWIW, I happen to think 6 MP is more resolution than I'll ever need, but the fact is that bigger numbers sell, as evidenced by threads like this one which are becoming more and more common. Now that Canon have demonstrated an 18 MP sensor that still performs well in terms of IQ, there is a real gap emerging that Nikon will at some point be force to close if they wish to remain competitive.
 
YOU CAN use your Nikon glass on Canon bodies! An inexpensive $20 or less adapter is all you need! Of course no AF though.

My biggest complaint with Nikon is they are so secretive with their plans. I absolutely hate it when I pay full price for something new (model B). Then a week later an announcement is made about new fantastic (model A). And oh by the way were going to lower the price model B when model A comes out in a month. Obviously this protects their sales until the new one is out. But I think they will sell them anyway even if they do announce it earlier.

As for the megapixel war. I think its pretty much calmed down. Most advanced users are well aware that its not very often they make a poster sized or larger print. The biggest advantage is low light.
 
You picked the wrong brand. You need to go with Canon. But do it quick, before they realize that they need to reduce mp's in their dslr's like they did with their G11 for better image quality. Just one question though, what are you gonna do with more mp's. Do you print everything to poster or billboard size?
 
Why is there always someone who thinks that they know what others need.

I need more MP simple as that. I shoot for stock and now for many agencies the minimum is 15mp. At the moment I use a D300 a very good camera but I do have to upsize them so lose quality.As long as there is not more loss of quality with a higher MP I will be happy.

I do not need high ISO or very fast frame rate. I could say it's pathetic to boast to your friends how fast you camera is and what a huge ISO range it has.
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what is it that many of you would do with 2 or 3 more megapixels? This isn't a rant or anything, but I'm not in any hurry at all. In fact, if digicams stayed at 12 MP for the rest of the time they existed, I would be perfectly happy.

The reason for me, and this is just my personal opinion, I don't run a printing business nor am I a pro photographer, but my reasoning is that file sizes are getting huge, quality and resolution is outstanding at 12, and when I blow them up to 100% on my 47" LCD TV, they're utterly massive! I never cease to be taken aback by how big and detailed my images come out when I view them on my TV. Even at 200% they look good IMHO, and with file sizes not slowing down anytime soon, the only thing more MP would mean to me is less space on my removable media and hard drives.

Just my 2 cents, I'm not knocking anyone, just declaring my own satisfaction.
 
Actually, when I read through this thread, I was impressed how sensible most people have been about the pointlessness of more megapixels at this stage of the game.

Marketing people have used the ploy of "more is better" for many years with all types of products. I'm glad that they're running out of steam, and I'd be pleased to see a few cameras offered with a decrease in megapixels for many reasons (file sizes, post-processing speed, new types of image quality improvements, etc).

I don't doubt that, for a few demanding applications, higher resolution sensors have a place, but wanting more pixels just because brand A, B, or C has more is not a compelling argument.

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It always amazes me how some ppl can completely blow a subject out of proportion. Also how some can criticize someone coming to a forum to ask questions. In a sarcastic way I was referring to nikon being a little behind in competition and their utter lack of caring (in my eyes anyway). Their updates consist of adding hd video to a model that has been on the market from quite sometime. I dont care if it has a couple of more frames per second its the same camera. D3S ...I was referring to dx models mainly like I stated earlier in the thread. For the jerks with the "so you can go tell your friends you have more megapixel" BS comments, heck just simply pass up my thread...lmfao.
 
Nikonist, I understand some people aren't very gentle/respectful in their responses (people tend to defend what they own quite vigorously when they are happy with it)... However... In terms of IQ, lighting and other areas, it is OTHER companies that need to play catchup to Nikon.

Also please see my post above regarding why more megapixels isn't always better. I believe I was plenty respectful and even gave the link to an article that may explain why Nikon isn't so eager to jump on the MP bandwagon.

(In short as you cram more pixels on a sensor the same size you will sometimes lose IQ).

Hope this clarifies what some others are trying to convey expect in a more respectful tone.
nikonist23 said:
It always amazes me how some ppl can completely blow a subject out of proportion. Also how some can criticize someone coming to a forum to ask questions. In a sarcastic way I was referring to nikon being a little behind in competition and their utter lack of caring (in my eyes anyway). Their updates consist of adding hd video to a model that has been on the market from quite sometime. I dont care if it has a couple of more frames per second its the same camera. D3S ...I was referring to dx models mainly like I stated earlier in the thread. For the jerks with the "so you can go tell your friends you have more megapixel" BS comments, heck just simply pass up my thread...lmfao.
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