Pentax K-m or K-x

d) Absence of Auto Focus points indicator - can be a potential deal breaker for you. you will need to decide how important it is for you. to get an idea go to a store and pick a Canon / Nikon DSLR and try to focus using view finder. It will show areas that camera has locked in focus by illuminated dots or rectangles. These dots are missing in K-x.

Other than these you get an excellent camera that you can use until it dies or you develop significant interest in photography and outgrow your camera.

Nitin
from your perspective is the absence of the AF indicator any inconvience?
 
I have another question about Live view: is it really important for my type of shooting or any kind ?
Live view is something invented for cameras without good viewfinders, to allow you to sort of almost but not quite do as well as a DSLR. You are almost always better off shooting with the camera up to your face rather than held out at arm's length.

Focus point indicators are nice, but hardly necessary. Most people either let the camera decide what to focus on - and having the camera tell you where it focused is of no use since you can't immediately override its selection - or else use the center point only mode. For people who like to select the focus point themselves every single shot (a minority to be sure), it's an inconvenience in that you have to glance at LCD to do it, but not an impossibilty either. Are you accustoemd to always selecting a focus point, each and every shot, without fail? If not, then don't worry about it.

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d) Absence of Auto Focus points indicator - can be a potential deal breaker for you. you will need to decide how important it is for you. to get an idea go to a store and pick a Canon / Nikon DSLR and try to focus using view finder. It will show areas that camera has locked in focus by illuminated dots or rectangles. These dots are missing in K-x.

Other than these you get an excellent camera that you can use until it dies or you develop significant interest in photography and outgrow your camera.

Nitin
from your perspective is the absence of the AF indicator any inconvience?
From my perspective this is an inconvenience only if you have got used to AF indicator in your current camera and heavily rely on it. But if you came to know about it only since I or someone else mentioned then don't worry about it. I and fair majority of DSLR users use center spot metering where AF indicator becomes irrelevant.

And as you learn more about photography you will also come to know how what camera focuses can also be controlled by F stop selection, a topic detailed under Depth of Field.

Based on my 3 months usage I never felt need of AF indicators and never got a snap where I found something else in focus than I was expecting. Although I switched from FZ18 that had AF indicators and I used to rely on those.

And occasionally if you really encounter a scenario where you want to rely on AF indicators then switch to Live View. And by the way, its Live View is as good as any other entry/mid level DSLR with the exception of Sony A500/550 which have the best Live View.

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Nitin
 
I've been on the fence about lately about Pentax.... Still shooting the K10D, but wanting to upgrade. But I got turned off by the K-7 low-light performance. And I wish the K-x had the 920K LCD, and AF points in the OVF, and a second control dial....

I'd love to read a compare-&-contrast report fro you!

P.S. Still loving the FA50 1.7....!

--Greg
Hi Greg (and Larry too!). I'll add my two cents worth here since I own the st ds, k10d, k20d and now the k-x. My k-x meters better than any of my other Pentax cameras. The high iso images are absolutely amazing! It is a little fiddly without two control wheels (I really like having two control wheels). BUT I find the controls on the k-x and the menu layout to be excellent and easy to manuver. I can set most everything I need to without ever taking my eye from the viewfinder and that is within 2 weeks of using the k-x. I am very happy with the k-x.

I will admit that I am having a bit of a struggle with macro shots with the k-x. I haven't quite nailed down what is going on, but I just don't seem to get as sharp an image with macros as I do in other situations with the k-x. Funny that using the k-x with the bigma I get the best bird in flight shots I've ever taken, and with much more ease too. My k-x focuses very fast and makes tracking birds in flight a real joy. I am looking forward to using it this season at my son's baseball games.

Like Larry, the k-x came down to a price I just couldn't pass up so I went for it. I am happy I did. I am really enjoying the camera.
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WSSA #181 Pentax Chapter
 
LaRee! Thanks for chiming in. We both go back to the Panasonic forum, so it feels like we've traveled the same path, from Panny FZ super-zooms to Pentax.

I'm still saving for a Bigma.

Question: You went from a K10D to the K-x? Did (do) you own a K20D or K-7?

I really love the controls of the K10D, and i wanted a K-7 when it was announced. But I really do a LOT of high ISO stuff, e.g., my kids playing basketball in school gymnasiums. I was just too concerned that the K-7 would let me down in the high ISO area.

Enter the K-x. Seems to have the sensor I want. I'm hoping I can live w/o the AF points, which is something I use a lot with the K10D. (Not that I change it constantly; but I rarely use center point. Normally I use the center top point - rule of thirds and all that....)

I would love a bigger buffer. And a 920K LCD. But I guess I can't have it all.

So, overall you're happy with the K-x?

I'm waiting five more weeks, and then I'm gonna make a final decision on which way to go. If i go with the K-x, I'm looking for the package with the 55-300 zoom: Currently about $700 on Amazon, but I'm hoping it will drop back into the $650 range.....

--Greg
Hi Greg (and Larry too!). I'll add my two cents worth here since I own the ist ds, k10d, k20d and now the k-x. My k-x meters better than any of my other Pentax cameras. The high iso images are absolutely amazing! It is a little fiddly without two control wheels (I really like having two control wheels). BUT I find the controls on the k-x and the menu layout to be excellent and easy to manuver. I can set most everything I need to without ever taking my eye from the viewfinder and that is within 2 weeks of using the k-x. I am very happy with the k-x.

I will admit that I am having a bit of a struggle with macro shots with the k-x. I haven't quite nailed down what is going on, but I just don't seem to get as sharp an image with macros as I do in other situations with the k-x. Funny that using the k-x with the bigma I get the best bird in flight shots I've ever taken, and with much more ease too. My k-x focuses very fast and makes tracking birds in flight a real joy. I am looking forward to using it this season at my son's baseball games.

Like Larry, the k-x came down to a price I just couldn't pass up so I went for it. I am happy I did. I am really enjoying the camera.
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LaRee
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27204583@N05/
http://www.laree.smugmug.com/
http://laree.zenfolio.com/
WSSA #181 Pentax Chapter
 
LaRee! Thanks for chiming in. We both go back to the Panasonic forum, so it feels like we've traveled the same path, from Panny FZ super-zooms to Pentax.
I do believe we have. :-)
I'm still saving for a Bigma.
It is a good and very versitile lens. But dang heavy!
Question: You went from a K10D to the K-x? Did (do) you own a K20D or K-7?
I passed on the k-7, I wasn't ready to plunk down $1,000 when I still have both the k10d AND the k20d in perfect working order.
I really love the controls of the K10D, and i wanted a K-7 when it was announced. But I really do a LOT of high ISO stuff, e.g., my kids playing basketball in school gymnasiums. I was just too concerned that the K-7 would let me down in the high ISO area.
I find the k-x to be the fastest focusing Pentax that I own. I haven't given it a go with baseball yet, but I will in the next few weeks as the season has started and my youngest son will be playing.
Enter the K-x. Seems to have the sensor I want. I'm hoping I can live w/o the AF points, which is something I use a lot with the K10D. (Not that I change it constantly; but I rarely use center point. Normally I use the center top point - rule of thirds and all that....)
I almost always change my focus points on the k20d. But I have learned to adjust with the k-x. I like what the k-x has to offer and at a price I can afford. I think the next Pentax dslr will have all the little niggles of the k-x worked out. Most of all the focus indicators lit up in the viewfinder.
I would love a bigger buffer. And a 920K LCD. But I guess I can't have it all.
Not for the price of the k-x. ;-)
So, overall you're happy with the K-x?
I am very happy with the k-x. I wouldn't throw out my k10d or k20d for it, but it compliments my line up nicely. I have been really enjoying it and I am happy I bought it.
I'm waiting five more weeks, and then I'm gonna make a final decision on which way to go. If i go with the K-x, I'm looking for the package with the 55-300 zoom: Currently about $700 on Amazon, but I'm hoping it will drop back into the $650 range.....
The price is sure to come down. There is sure to be an improved model at some point too. I guess it just depends on if you have the money burning a hole in your pocket for it now, or if you feel a real need to upgrade. One thing is for certain, the k-x will blow away the k10d for high iso performance. I also think it focuses much faster than both the k10d and the k20d. But hey, I think I am repeating myself...so I'll stop now.
 
LaRee wrote:
LaRee, are you the one that commented on my flickr page?
LaRee! Thanks for chiming in. We both go back to the Panasonic forum, so it feels like we've traveled the same path, from Panny FZ super-zooms to Pentax.
I do believe we have. :-)
What a coincidence. My first decent digital camera was an FZ20, upgraded to the FZ50. I bought my K100 to replace the FZ50 when it was stolen.
I'm still saving for a Bigma.
It is a good and very versitile lens. But dang heavy!
Greg, Here's a shot I took when you were playing with my bigma last July:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4331501463/in/set-72157623360627134/
Enter the K-x. Seems to have the sensor I want. I'm hoping I can live w/o the AF points, which is something I use a lot with the K10D. (Not that I change it constantly; but I rarely use center point. Normally I use the center top point - rule of thirds and all that....)
I almost always change my focus points on the k20d. But I have learned to adjust with the k-x. I like what the k-x has to offer and at a price I can afford. I think the next Pentax dslr will have all the little niggles of the k-x worked out. Most of all the focus indicators lit up in the viewfinder.
The K-x has its shortcomings. However, for what it costs, it has the performance that you could put off buying the K7 replacement until it's prices has dropped enough to cover the cost of a Kx.

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the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good.
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LaRee wrote:
LaRee, are you the one that commented on my flickr page?
Yes Larry, that would be me. :)
LaRee! Thanks for chiming in. We both go back to the Panasonic forum, so it feels like we've traveled the same path, from Panny FZ super-zooms to Pentax.
I do believe we have. :-)
What a coincidence. My first decent digital camera was an FZ20, upgraded to the FZ50. I bought my K100 to replace the FZ50 when it was stolen.
I remember you when I had my fz20 I do believe. I loved the fz20 for macros. That camera has been beat to death and is still going. My sister used the heck out of if AFTER I had shot a gazillion photos with it. Now my youngest son is using it, duct tape and all. ;-)
I'm still saving for a Bigma.
It is a good and very versitile lens. But dang heavy!
Greg, Here's a shot I took when you were playing with my bigma last July:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/ellarsee/4331501463/in/set-72157623360627134/
Enter the K-x. Seems to have the sensor I want. I'm hoping I can live w/o the AF points, which is something I use a lot with the K10D. (Not that I change it constantly; but I rarely use center point. Normally I use the center top point - rule of thirds and all that....)
I almost always change my focus points on the k20d. But I have learned to adjust with the k-x. I like what the k-x has to offer and at a price I can afford. I think the next Pentax dslr will have all the little niggles of the k-x worked out. Most of all the focus indicators lit up in the viewfinder.
The K-x has its shortcomings. However, for what it costs, it has the performance that you could put off buying the K7 replacement until it's prices has dropped enough to cover the cost of a Kx.
Yep, the k-x really offers a lot of bang for the buck. It seems the k-7 may take a while to drop in price. While I'm waiting for the next Pentax to roll out, I'll be happily enjoying my k-x. It is a great deal for sure.
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The first step is learning to take great photos,
the second step is learning to throw away ones that are merely good.
photos at http://flickr.com/ellarsee
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LaRee
http://www.flickr.com/photos/27204583@N05/
http://www.laree.smugmug.com/
http://laree.zenfolio.com/
WSSA #181 Pentax Chapter
 

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