Why not a standard light meter

  • Thread starter Thread starter J. Rhys Fastiggi
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Yes, I did see it. Yet another expensive gadget.
Morris
Beg to differ, NOT a gadget but a damn fine super compact asccurate meter that can be worn arround the neck if desired and NOT expensive for a quality meter.
Regards,
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**** S, Temecula, CA
'Capturing The Essence'
 
Rhys Wrote:

That is true, but at least it makes the expensive gadget that I already bought work better.

I just got back from another flight session this morning. I have been taking some photos of my kids school from a small airplane. I thought I learned my lesson about using the Manual control without the proper light meter, which is DON'T.

Instead I use the Tv mode and set my film speed as high as possible to try to remove the blur caused by the high vibration of sitting in this big fan. Well I did get a larger % of good photos, but I am very sorry to report that at least 25% were still way out of focus. It is a real shame, because the one that came out were very nice photos. I just can't explain the inconsistancy of the focusing of this camera. It is very poor.
Morris
Hi Guys,
I bought a Voigtlander VC meter for my Fuji 6X7 120/220 that fits
in the hot shoe when I didn't want to be bothered with using my
Sekonic 358. I now use it more on my G1 when I shoot in manual. A
full time small accurate (center weighted-not spot) meter. I love
the li'l sucker!!!
Regards,
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**** S, Temecula, CA
'Capturing The Essence'
 
Rhys Wrote:

Morris I went ahead and ask the SLR forum about wether the light meter was included on the D60. The answer was Yes. In Manual mode the standard reference meter shows up in the view finder as you woule think it should. Well I feel a little better about not asking such a stupid question, I would have felt a lot better if someone would have pointed out that it was also included on the G2. Oh Well
Morris

PS. You could ask on Canon SLR.
Morris do you know if the D60 as this data like the Manual SLRs
used to provide.
http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1005&message=3387493

Morris
I was up in an airplane taking photos yesterday. I was using
manual exposure and took about 100 photos with my G2. Right at the
end I flipped it to Programmed AE and took about 6 photos. I was
very disappointed to find that almost none of the manual exposed
photos were as good as the programmed ones.

So I asked why??? Well one reason is that the only light meter that
is available is the photo that is displayed on the LCD. And as we
all know by now this little photo diplay is no indication of what
the photo is going to look like when it is blown up on the computer
screen. I don't know about the rest of the cameras but at least
with the G2 the brightness of the LCD changes depending on the
angle that you are looking at it. So how in the "H" are you
supposed to use it as a light meter.

So I asked, why don't they just include a small + - meter like on
the standard SLR that will indicate when the correct Shutter/F-Stop
settings are selected for the selected ISO setting. I assume
everything is already build into the camera, so it is just a matter
of adding the simple graphics to the LCD. For that matter it would
not be very difficult to also add it to the top display so that you
could save a lot of power by not using the large one.

For camera that use the Through the Lens View they can add this
right into the view-finder.
 
In future cameras we might hope for a real time histogram for the current settings, that would be nice!
You cant use the LCD for metering OR focus. You can use the
histogram for an indication how your metering worked out. Take one
shot, look at the histogram and then adjust. Or else use Av or Tv
for correct metering. There is rarely a resosn to use full m over
Av or Tv, unless you want to achieve things the automatic wont be
able to do or certain effects. Then its your exposure knowledge
that sets the parameter.

How wpuld the show the expoure settings in M? Based on the aperture
or shutter you set, or based on P? In either case you may as well
just use that mode.

The G2 WILL display the amount of under or overexposure based on
YOUR settings. I find that totally sufficient and wonder how you
got 100 bad photos with that information AND with the histogram?
 
I am a bit new to the camera, 3 months.

As far as i know if you half press the button you could see if you are underexposing or overexposing with the small number that apears in the left of the lcd. It marks 0 if it is OK and it goes on 1/4 EV stops.

Is not so different than my N6006 I had to half press to make the measure. Then I had to change speed or exposure.

Please explain me...

Alvaro
 
The exposure evaluation you get before actually taking the picture is depending on the metering mode, showing + - 2 EV in 1/3 steps. The metering requires you to half press the shutter. There are 3 different evaluation modes in G2 (same with S30/S40), and these are:

Evaluative mode:

Using exposure data from the whole picture to calculate the EV. Pictures taken in this mode, should not experience over exponation if the EV shows 0 or less. But in my experience (with the S40), this is not always the case.

Center weighted:

Using exposure data from the whole picture, but with more weight on the center part. This mode can be set so that it follows the actual focus area. Over exponation can occur outside the weighted area, even if EV is showing 0 or less.

Spot:

Using exposure data only from a small area in the middle of the picture. Using this mode and pointing at the brightest areas of the scene, over exponation hardly occurs. Pointing at a darker spot will certainly cause over exponation. The EV always show 0 when using this mode.

All comments to the modes is assuming that you have an initial exposure compensation of 0.

The histogram on the G2, S30, S40 etc.:



You need to take the picture in order to see this histogram. This is good for checking the dynamic range of the picture, as well as detecting over exponation. Now, if this could be shown in real time (before actually taking the picture), it would be helpful!
I am a bit new to the camera, 3 months.
As far as i know if you half press the button you could see if you
are underexposing or overexposing with the small number that apears
in the left of the lcd. It marks 0 if it is OK and it goes on 1/4
EV stops.

Is not so different than my N6006 I had to half press to make the
measure. Then I had to change speed or exposure.

Please explain me...

Alvaro
 

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