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I have received a series of pictures taken yesterday by my brother at the Brussels Car Show, with his Sony Ericsson cell phone.

These pictures "weigh" only around 200 -250 Kb but I'm really surprised by their quality, especially considering the available light.

Of course nothing comparable to a DSLR, especially if you want to make large prints, but it's interesting to know that a cell phone can be a decent camera in case you have left your Olympus at home ;)

And of course that Ferrari 458 is a masterpiece :)





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Josegaut said:
I have received a series of pictures taken yesterday by my brother at the Brussels Car Show, with his Sony Ericsson cell phone.

These pictures "weigh" only around 200 -250 Kb but I'm really surprised by their quality, especially considering the available light.

Of course nothing comparable to a DSLR, especially if you want to make large prints, but it's interesting to know that a cell phone can be a decent camera in case you have left your Olympus at home ;)

And of course that Ferrari 458 is a masterpiece :)



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Nice photos but nothing special in quality really. The photos were taken in very good lighting from a reflective motive. There is just to much noise even in very bright scenes. But a Ferrari is a Ferrari and it looks georgeous.
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Gidday Jose
Josegaut said:
I have received a series of pictures taken yesterday by my brother at the Brussels Car Show, with his Sony Ericsson cell phone.

These pictures "weigh" only around 200 -250 Kb but I'm really surprised by their quality, especially considering the available light.

Of course nothing comparable to a DSLR, especially if you want to make large prints, but it's interesting to know that a cell phone can be a decent camera in case you have left your Olympus at home ;)

And of course that Ferrari 458 is a masterpiece :)

http://josegaut.zenfolio.com/img/v0/p383675065-5.jpg

http://josegaut.zenfolio.com/img/v7/p66238656-5.jpg
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Here's one from my wife's Nokia N95. Prints OK at A4 size!



The N95 phone camera has optical zoom, "real" AF, custom WB settings, 5MP, Zeiss branded f/2.8 lens etc. The images are about 400~900 KB each.

Not about to give my E-1 a run for its money, but amazingly good nonetheless ... AND, much more importantly, it suits her just fine.

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Wow, impressive stuff. I never had a cell phone tho...

At the moment, I exchanged cameras with Mitchie, my wife, for a week. She complained about too much noise from her small P&S Panasonic TZ7 / ZS3, and because I haven't seen to many pictures from it yet, we just swapped for a week.

Interesting experience IMHO, and maybe for both of us.
 
Hello John,

your sample is amazing too ! It's clear that those "camera phones" are no substitute for a DSLR, nevertheless I would never have thought that it would be possible to make A4 prints from a cell phone picture.

In my opinion, cameras on phones were just gimmicks but when I see samples like that, I would absolutely not be surprised if the picture quality of the next generation of phones equals that of recent P&S cameras.

I'm not sure that the market for P&S cameras has a bright future unless they are embedded in a cell phone !
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And I am afraid the picture quality is much much less, but I still cherish the picture, because it is one of my youngest nephew on the day of his birth (we visited and I had, as a rare exception, no camera at all in the car), and also of my own son who was going to be the little guy's godfather :



(bad quality picture but better than no picture at all...)

Here are the two of them again, one year later, on the first birthday (not with cell phone this time) :



But commenting on the pictures in the OP and other examples : those really amaze me.

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RoelHendrickx said:
(bad quality picture but better than no picture at all...)
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That's the whole thing I think. First of all, the quality is really not so bad (of course and again, nothing that can be compared with a DSLR but acceptable nonetheless) and a cell phone is probably the ultimate device "portability-wise" ...and also one you always have with you (or almost always).

So it's interesting to know that cell phones have come to a degree of picture quality which is sufficient to keep nice souvenirs (like the one you show) when you don't have your DSLR at hand.

And yes, I know, purists will say that you must always have your DSLR at hand :)
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The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good - Samuel Johnson
 
Josegaut said:
RoelHendrickx said:
(bad quality picture but better than no picture at all...)
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That's the whole thing I think. First of all, the quality is really not so bad (of course and again, nothing that can be compared with a DSLR but acceptable nonetheless) and a cell phone is probably the ultimate device "portability-wise" ...and also one you always have with you (or almost always).

So it's interesting to know that cell phones have come to a degree of picture quality which is sufficient to keep nice souvenirs (like the one you show) when you don't have your DSLR at hand.

And yes, I know, purists will say that you must always have your DSLR at hand :)
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The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good - Samuel Johnson
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Try calling for a tow truck with your DSLR though. :P
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Josegaut said:
RoelHendrickx said:
(bad quality picture but better than no picture at all...)
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That's the whole thing I think. First of all, the quality is really not so bad (of course and again, nothing that can be compared with a DSLR but acceptable nonetheless) and a cell phone is probably the ultimate device "portability-wise" ...and also one you always have with you (or almost always).
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Not yet...it doesn't have a microwave, a refrigerator...and would be nice to have built-in bathroom in your cellphone...in case you need - like you need to taske pictures...

What's wrong with cellphones and people who hold them too close to their heads for too long- almost same as trying to put your head in a microwave for some 10-20 seconds.....
Josegaut said:
So it's interesting to know that cell phones have come to a degree of picture quality which is sufficient to keep nice souvenirs (like the one you show) when you don't have your DSLR at hand.

And yes, I know, purists will say that you must always have your DSLR at hand :)
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The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good - Samuel Johnson
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Hi everybody!

I Own Nokia 6220 cell phone, one year old, 5Mpx, Xenon flash (quite strong, I measured GN approx 6 by taking one second exposure at given distance in totally dark room and flashing the cellphone ). It has CZ Tessar 2.8/5.6 lens, autofocus...

I am quite happy with it as an walkaround gadget for street photography. I would directly compare its results with old Olympus Camedia C4000 in terms of resolution. Also, cell phones have lower dynamic range and heavier processing to get rid of noise, so the images look soft in general, when viewed closely at 1:1 scale. I really can say, that I do not need an point-and-shoot camera anymore since I bought this cell phone.

I cannot see reasonable difference between recent mobile phones cameras and cheap P&S cameras.
Anybody shares the idea?

Adrian
 
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John King said:
The N95 phone camera has optical zoom,
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Said with authority
Underlined for emphasis
Completely incorrect
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Gee, you mean the Telco info is wrong; the Nokia info is wrong; etc ...

Perhaps I should sue for fraudulent advertising? Perhaps you could advise me about this?

Anything else to contribute?

BTW, it is the only one of this series that has optical and digital zoom, all the others have only digital zoom ...

Maybe they sell a different version in the UK ...

AND you have nothing better to do than to nit-pick on behalf of your "mates"? Is the photography business slow at the moment, Gareth? Sorry to hear that.

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The Camera doth not make the Man (or Woman) ...
Perhaps being kind to cats, dogs & children does ...

Gallery: http://canopuscomputing.com.au/gallery2/main.php



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Well, the N95 - all models - does not have optical zoom. The only N-series device with optical zoom is the N93. Typo?
 
HMi said:
Well, the N95 - all models - does not have optical zoom.
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Thank you.

I would normally assume that someone who knew anything about photography, could simply look at a zoomed image from something like the N95 and see that its not a true optical zoom. But then in this case, I suppose it just explains a lot.
 
Big Ga said:
HMi said:
Well, the N95 - all models - does not have optical zoom.
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Thank you.

I would normally assume that someone who knew anything about photography, could simply look at a zoomed image from something like the N95 and see that its not a true optical zoom. But then in this case, I suppose it just explains a lot.
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I would normally assume that someone who knew anything about photography, would either ensure that the EXIF data was intact in images that were posted as proof of an assertion, or would post the EXIF data when requested ...

But perhaps if that someone had some other agenda ...

But then in this case, I suppose it just explains a lot.
 
John King said:
I would normally assume that someone who knew anything about photography, would either ensure that the EXIF data was intact in images that were posted as proof of an assertion, or would post the EXIF data when requested ...

But perhaps if that someone had some other agenda ...
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What exif data? Why is it important? What agenda ?
 
considering it is a cell phone it is very nice quality. I have a Nokia N95 with a real Leica AF lens in it and a 5M sensor. It takes really nice images as well. Never the less, it can not only not replace a DSLR, it can not even replace a better P&S.
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