12-60 over 14-54 and 11-22 ?

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I am contemplating selling my 14-54 and my 11-22 and purchasing the
12-60, I currently have the E 620 and was wondering if the auto focus

is a lot quicker. I think the image quality will be equal. I think it would be easier

to hike with this lens as opposed to switching lenses. I was wondering if any one else has done this. My only fear is that I will miss the 11-22.
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I am in the process of doing that exact thing. I say in the process because while I've picked up the 12-60, I still have the other two lenses.

I'm actually only selling the 11-22, keeping the 14-54 as backup for pro jobs. And if I could, I'd keep all of them, but I really can't justify it financially.

Since getting the 12-60 I've mostly kept it on the camera, switching out occasionally with the ZD50 for the extra aperture and better image quality. Yes, the 50 is still noticeably better. But the 12-60 is more than good enough most of the time, and the focus with the E-3 is unlike anything else I've used from Olympus.

I have, once thus far, missed the extra 1mm of wide angle from the 11-22. But on the whole, it's a definite upgrade, especially as far as flexibility, focus, and convenience.
 
does the 12-60 provide CDAF with the E-P1 m4/3rd ?

I own the 14-54m1, and am considering wither the 11-22, or the 12-60.

I am OK with the 14-54m1, and ......

so, it would seem that a 2x telephoto "should outperform" a 5x one... though, in this situation, the 5x is a much newer design, so, that may not be the case.

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The 12-60 is not CDAF compatible. The 14-54 II is.

I have the 14-54 II, and debating between the 11-22 or 9-18. I owned both, and really miss the 9-18. With the 9-18 I would be CDAF compatible all the way from 9mm to 300mm. Food for thought.

Jeff.
 
I was thinking the same thing as the OP, and tried out a 12-60 over the weekend. I ended up returning the 12-60 - you can read my thread over in the four thirds photo forum - sorry paranoid dpr mods won't let me direct link. Anyway, I found that the difference in FOV at 12mm and 11mm was negligable - much less than the difference between the 12mm and 14mm (I'm guessing that the 12-60 may be fractionally wider than 12mm and the 11-22mm may be fractionally narrower than 11mm).

So if you go for the 12-60 over the 11-22, you won't be giving up that much at the wide end. The big difference is that the 11-22 does not exhibit the "moustache distortion" at the wide end that the 12-60 does.
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You mean C-AF?
The 12-60 is not CDAF compatible. The 14-54 II is.

I have the 14-54 II, and debating between the 11-22 or 9-18. I owned both, and really miss the 9-18. With the 9-18 I would be CDAF compatible all the way from 9mm to 300mm. Food for thought.

Jeff.
 
After buying my 12-60, I never needed or used te 11-22 again. Eventually sold it. Gave the 14-54 with E-330 to my daughter. The 12-60 is just the perfect walk around lens for travel and get togethrs. Never need to change lenses while the perfect shot goes away.
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After buying my 12-60, I never needed or used te 11-22 again. Eventually sold it. Gave the 14-54 with E-330 to my daughter. The 12-60 is just the perfect walk around lens for travel and get togethrs. Never need to change lenses while the perfect shot goes away.
when traveling, I take a lot of photos of buildings... and am concerned about having architecturally straight lines....

how is the distortion of the 12-60 ? how do you correct it ?
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I got the 12-60 a few months ago and I'm using on my entry-level E-420.

While the lens is much heavier than what I was used to from the kit lenses, it's brilliant for any situation except for serious tele photography.

Wide Landscapes- great, portraits- great too, minimum focus range of 25cm throughout the lens range is VERY useful. Overall its a very versatile lens, quick and you see the quality in the images.
I really love it.

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especially for any architecture----it's a much better lens for that than the 12-60 because of its excellent distortion control.
 
Agree with all of the above - an excellent single lens for most occasions. Using it on an E3 so don't notice the extra weight so much (E3 is already a tank). Have owned it for two years and have been satisfied in every way - great IQ, fast focus, etc.
 
Hi,

I did that when the E3 & 12-60 first came out.

For me, a 12 (or 24mm equivalent in any format) is a must as it is one of my key focal lengths,m so inevitably I would take the 11-22 plus either 50 or 14-54 as a second lens for walks, days out, etc, but when traveling, had to carry at least 3-4 lenses.

Now with the 12-60, I use a single lens to cover 90% of my general, family, and travel photography. As a 2.8-4.0 12-60 (or 24-120), it is one of the reasons (IMHO) to stay in the Olympus system. It is fast focusing and bright, and optically excellent and noticeably better than my very early 14-54 (bought with my original E1 when they were first introduced) at every aperture and focal length. The 12-60 at maximum aperture and 12mm has more distortion than the 11-22mm but as I use it for groups, travel, etc, it does not affect my photography but I do (rarely) miss the 11mm setting. That said most of the time, when I find the 12-60 to be not wide enough, the 11-22 would not be either. That said, I have owned the 7-14 several times and (because of its weight/bulk) it rarely gets used. The 9-18 is a great complement to the 12-50 except that it is not weather resistant (critical to my travel needs) so I hope Olympus eventually reinvents the the mid range 11-22 wide zoom (maybe as a weather sealed 9-22).

The optical speed (2.8-4) and finder brightness/size in the E3/12-60 combination defines the 4/3 system advantages for me. Although here it is viewed as "heavy", compared to the true equivalent of what I previously used it is both optically superior and considerably less weight. Previously I used a 5d or 1Ds (the 12Mp version) with the Canon 24-105 F4 . The 5D died in bad weather in the Arctic Ocean (trip saved by E1/14-54) and the 1Ds/24-105 combo weighed 500 grams more. In addition the 24-105 (also an early version) was optically unacceptable at F4 (especially in the corners and edges).

In the Nikon system, situation is similar (and I have owned both the D700 and D300. With the FX system (D700) there is no 24-100 equivalent 2.8 and the 24-70 (like the 14-35) weighs too much (900 gms) and only covers to 70mm the 24-120 lenses are optically not nearly as good and are 3.5-5.6 considerably darker. The DX system is similar with their 17-55 2.8 (not great for distances and not the same zoom range). The new 16-85 covers a range similar to the 12-60 and is optically quite good but dark (at 5.6) and IMHO not as well built. In addition, I found that the E3/12-60 (and 50-200 SWD) using single central point AF was faster than the same mode on the D300 & D700 with any of the zoom lenses. I cannot speak for multipoint focusing as I don't use or understand it (or why I would use it).

Anyway, I hope you find this rambling info useful, but whenever I think about changing my main SLR system, one of the key reasons I don't is the 12-60 (+ E3 & 50-200)

Ed Rauschkolb
 

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