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so here's the deal: i'm ready to jump into the m43 party. my problem: the cameras are there, the lenses are there, but either the prices are a bit too high or the offerings aren't quite right. so i'm stuck waiting.

in detail, camera body:

i'm a fan of the e-p1 body. as far as i can tell (without buying/borrowing one) that's pretty much what i'm looking for. i don't think the e-p2 has anything to offer me. i'm fine using the lcd on the back for composition. i'd like to be able to go up to iso 800 without any noise concerns so i think that pushes me toward the e-p1 and away from the gf1. (from what i gather, the gf1 looks a little worse than my old d80 did at 800, which was part of the reason i no longer have the d80.)

lenses:

i can deal with F2.8 in terms of light, but honestly i prefer to use more selective focus (2.8 is about 5.6 equiv. on FX). i'm looking squarely at the lumix 20/1,7. it's almost wide enough. i'd rather have it around 10-17mm and i know i definitely want a prime. trouble is, for the price, it's a fast prime that's not as wide as i'd like (yeah i used to shoot 40/1,7 on my old konica and 40mm is often either too tele or too wide). so yeah the 17/2.8 is my ideal focal length but a) it's not sharp enough and b) it's not fast enough. i may end up giving in, we'll see.

so you put those two together and you get an e-p1 with the 20/1,7 and now we're talking about over 1k. yeah, i might spend 700. possibly 750. no more. i can easily get the e-p1 with either kit lens for under 750.

other things that keep me up at night:

i do like the in-body IS of the e-p1 but the size of the gf1 really gets me. maybe it's because i live in the middle of nowhere and now have to drive 2+ hours to go check them out (thanks to circuit city closing). in the end i may end up waiting until i can pick them up.

and finally, the monkey wrench:

if i just suck it up and give up on the depth of field issue, i may just possibly give the whole thing up and wait for the LX4 to surface (it's about time that thing comes out, already). that's assuming it keeps the fast wide lens.

anyway, if anybody has any advice with the camera decision, i'd welcome it.
 
With the firmware update for the GF1, it should have roughly the same noise at iso800 as the ep1. Tesky posted some indoor gf1 iso800 shots and I've taken a few with good results.

Good luck choosing ;)

-chris
 
The IS with the E-P1 works very well. I even had sharp results at 1/8 of a second. Pretty impressive. The look and finish is also very nice. The AF speed is an issue for me so I will be listing my E-P1, 14-42mm, and official everready case in the $500-$600 range either tonight or tomorrow. I've seen a few others sell for under $600. If you are interested let me know. It has had less than 100 shots. I'm selling because I want something with faster AF in low light. Its a great camera if you are not extremely picky about AF speed, or if you like MF in low light.
 
I'm quite certain you'll find no shortage of advice here.

The GF1/E-P1 decision is a difficult one, because they are so similar, but enough different to make one better than the other at various times - but which is better varies. There are a few thousand threads here talking about the differences, and arguing that one or the other is better. I got the E-P1, but my decision was simple - since I already have and use a GH1, the E-P is a better complement because it is more different.

The one thing I did want to say, though, is that you can stop worrying about size - the size of the two is for all intents and purposes identical. (Though the GF1 is somewhat lighter.)
Walter
 
so here's the deal: i'm ready to jump into the m43 party. my problem: the cameras are there, the lenses are there, but either the prices are a bit too high or the offerings aren't quite right. so i'm stuck waiting.

in detail, camera body:

i'm a fan of the e-p1 body. as far as i can tell (without buying/borrowing one) that's pretty much what i'm looking for. i don't think the e-p2 has anything to offer me. i'm fine using the lcd on the back for composition. i'd like to be able to go up to iso 800 without any noise concerns so i think that pushes me toward the e-p1 and away from the gf1. (from what i gather, the gf1 looks a little worse than my old d80 did at 800, which was part of the reason i no longer have the d80.)
Answer: E-P1
lenses:

i can deal with F2.8 in terms of light, but honestly i prefer to use more selective focus (2.8 is about 5.6 equiv. on FX). i'm looking squarely at the lumix 20/1,7. it's almost wide enough. i'd rather have it around 10-17mm and i know i definitely want a prime. trouble is, for the price, it's a fast prime that's not as wide as i'd like (yeah i used to shoot 40/1,7 on my old konica and 40mm is often either too tele or too wide). so yeah the 17/2.8 is my ideal focal length but a) it's not sharp enough and b) it's not fast enough. i may end up giving in, we'll see.

so you put those two together and you get an e-p1 with the 20/1,7 and now we're talking about over 1k. yeah, i might spend 700. possibly 750. no more. i can easily get the e-p1 with either kit lens for under 750.
Answer: E-P1
other things that keep me up at night:

i do like the in-body IS of the e-p1 but the size of the gf1 really gets me. maybe it's because i live in the middle of nowhere and now have to drive 2+ hours to go check them out (thanks to circuit city closing). in the end i may end up waiting until i can pick them up.
Answer: GF-1
and finally, the monkey wrench:

if i just suck it up and give up on the depth of field issue, i may just possibly give the whole thing up and wait for the LX4 to surface (it's about time that thing comes out, already). that's assuming it keeps the fast wide lens.
Answer: Do not buy either
anyway, if anybody has any advice with the camera decision, i'd welcome it.
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