Nx2 support for SL?

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sometime ago nikon promised to update capture nx2 to support SL 10.6 by the end of 2009, and the rest of their software by the end of january 2010. I guess that means we will get some good news today! (fingers crossed) do you think they actually will release an update to day or no? comments welcome.
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With all the problems people are having with SL I have not plans to update my computers until significant patches are released by Apple. Snow Leopard seems to be mirroring users experiences with the early releases of Vista by Microsoft. Just check the many posts on SL on Apple's website.
 
yeah, hind sight is 20:20. lol. I know apple has its issues to deal with but they are at least working on it and we have gotten occasional updates from them. but nikon hasn't released a single update for nx2 to support SL. and it CRASHES a lot!! on the other hand they have already released 2 updates for win 7.
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sometime ago nikon promised to update capture nx2 to support SL 10.6 by the end of 2009, and the rest of their software by the end of january 2010. I guess that means we will get some good news today! (fingers crossed) do you think they actually will release an update to day or no? comments welcome.
No, Nikon announced a delay for NX2 updates until end of January... so one more month.

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With all the problems people are having with SL I have not plans to update my computers until significant patches are released by Apple. Snow Leopard seems to be mirroring users experiences with the early releases of Vista by Microsoft. Just check the many posts on SL on Apple's website.
Huh? "all the problems people are having with SL"? I've been on SL for 8 weeks and it's been great for me. NX2 2.2.3 works well (though I've had it hang up a couple times). But I had tried it on another machine prior to upgrading my main machine and felt I could live with it until end December (now delayed until end January when the "official" SL compatible NX2 release gets issued).

Problems surely exist with SL, don't get me wrong, but mostly with 3rd party software that needs updating, not the OS itself. Vista was a complete disaster on multiple fronts and one which MS surely wants people to forget now that Win7 is out. I would avoid lumping SL with Vista.

Don't forget, when you look at forums all you read about are postings from people with problems, people having a good experience do not post. And there are millions of the latter.

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With all the problems people are having with SL I have not plans to update my computers until significant patches are released by Apple. Snow Leopard seems to be mirroring users experiences with the early releases of Vista by Microsoft. Just check the many posts on SL on Apple's website.
I've read more posts about how solid of an upgrade. Yeah there are people posting about problems here and other mac sites, but those sites are generally used for support, i.e., people posting problems not posting about how well things go.

Over all, snow leopard is a solid upgrade and I've not had any problems.
 
I've read more posts about how solid of an upgrade. Yeah there are people posting about problems here and other mac sites, but those sites are generally used for support, i.e., people posting problems not posting about how well things go.

Over all, snow leopard is a solid upgrade and I've not had any problems.
I'll second that comment. I run three Mac's these days -- a 2008 iMac and two laptops. All were upgraded about a week or two after SL was available and I don't remember any significant problems.

I tend to think that a great many "problems" are user errors or just plain bad judgement such as trying to install software to modify parts of the OS. And dare I say it? Many problems are from switchers that aren't looking at HELP and think all things should operate the same way as Windows. Old habits ARE hard to break!

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No, Nikon announced a delay for NX2 updates until end of January... so one more month.

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yeah ok, I just checked nikon's site and you are correct, as of 16/12/09 they have revised their original announcement and now the update won't be available until the end of january 2010 not end of today. so whats the hold-up? why are they taking so long to update their software? this has been a real let down for users of nx2. SL has been out since late august and nikon have not offered any support for SL users except to tell us that they don't recommend that we upgrade to SL at this time. by now apple and most other 3rd party manufacturers have updated their drivers and software so that it works with SL. except for nikon. so that's it. that's my rant. I guess we wait 1 more month and hope that they deliver on their (revised) promise.
don't get me wrong, nikon builds great cameras and lenses and stuff but their software dept. leaves much to be desired. nikon charges a lot of money for a product that they aren't adequately supportting. as far as I know canon provides their software for free and I haven't heard of any issues with their software.

Ian
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I don't know what happened with my previous post but somehow the first part of it didn't appear in the thread. here is what it should have read.
No, Nikon announced a delay for NX2 updates until end of January... so one more month.

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yeah ok, I just checked nikon's site and you are correct, as of 16/12/09 they have revised their original announcement and now the update won't be available until the end of january 2010 not end of today. so whats the hold-up? why are they taking so long to update their software? this has been a real let down for users of nx2. SL has been out since late august and nikon have not offered any support for SL users except to tell us that they don't recommend that we upgrade to SL at this time. by now apple and most other 3rd party manufacturers have updated their drivers and software so that it works with SL. except for nikon. so that's it. that's my rant. I guess we wait 1 more month and hope that they deliver on their (revised) promise.

don't get me wrong, nikon builds great cameras and lenses and stuff but their software dept. leaves much to be desired. nikon charges a lot of money for a product that they aren't adequately supportting. as far as I know canon provides their software for free and I haven't heard of any issues with their software.

Ian
No, Nikon announced a delay for NX2 updates until end of January... so one more month.

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yeah ok, I just checked nikon's site and you are correct, as of 16/12/09 they have revised their original announcement and now the update won't be available until the end of january 2010 not end of today. so whats the hold-up? why are they taking so long to update their software? this has been a real let down for users of nx2. SL has been out since late august and nikon have not offered any support for SL users except to tell us that they don't recommend that we upgrade to SL at this time. by now apple and most other 3rd party manufacturers have updated their drivers and software so that it works with SL. except for nikon. so that's it. that's my rant. I guess we wait 1 more month and hope that they deliver on their (revised) promise.
don't get me wrong, nikon builds great cameras and lenses and stuff but their software dept. leaves much to be desired. nikon charges a lot of money for a product that they aren't adequately supportting. as far as I know canon provides their software for free and I haven't heard of any issues with their software.

Ian
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Hi!

I am running NX2 (2.2.3) on SL with no problem that I can see. About the only thing I remember was that the automatic updater did not work, so manually downloaded and installed.

(Well, there is one small annoyance I can't seem to get rid of . . . everytime I open NX2 it tells me there is an update, but there really isn't)

PS: no other problems with the SL update either.
 
well maybe its just me having problems with nx2 then. I don't know but I will say this, I see the spinning beach ball a lot when I am working in nx2 and frequently that results in a crash.

one thing I find particularly annoying is this. when I do PP on portraits, as one of my final steps I like to brighten the teeth and whites of eyes. I use the paint brush tool to add a selective adjustment to do this step. I will get most of the teeth painted and POOF nx2 crashes. EVERY SINGLE TIME!! does this happen to anyone else?

as a work around I have had to install windoze xp on my mac pro and work with nx2 from there. it still crashes but not nearly as much.

Ian
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I upgraded from 10.5, where NX2 was running fine, and it crashes on SL. So you are not the only one, I have exactly the same experience. My work arounds are (1) save frequently (cmd-s), (2) manually delete the tmp files in NX2 occasionally, and (3) when problems occur, reboot the mac. It's almost like there's a memory leak.

I am very anxious for Nikon to put out the SL compatible NX2 version. For me, complex selections are the quickest to create a crash. Photos that are straigtforward seem to work ok.
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that's been my experience also: fine with simple edits; crashes with more complex selections (which, after all, is supposed to be a strength of CNX2). Ugh.
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I don't know what happened with my previous post but somehow the first part of it didn't appear in the thread. here is what it should have read.
No, Nikon announced a delay for NX2 updates until end of January... so one more month.

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yeah ok, I just checked nikon's site and you are correct, as of 16/12/09 they have revised their original announcement and now the update won't be available until the end of january 2010 not end of today. so whats the hold-up? why are they taking so long to update their software?
I would imagine that it comes down to $. In this economy, you (Nikon) have a limited number of resources (programmers or contractors like Nik) and you have a whole slew of products to upgrade to SL (Camera Control, NX2, View, etc). SL was a pretty major change under the hood (not a minor release) and it required a lot of effort. In some ways, Nikon has decided that 4 months wait is acceptable. In this case, I'd guess it slipped to 5 mo.s because SL was a more complex upgrade.
this has been a real let down for users of nx2. SL has been out since late august and nikon have not offered any support for SL users except to tell us that they don't recommend that we upgrade to SL at this time. by now apple and most other 3rd party manufacturers have updated their drivers and software so that it works with SL. except for nikon. so that's it. that's my rant. I guess we wait 1 more month and hope that they deliver on their (revised) promise.
... I agree. I think the original delay of 4 months is too long. But at this point it's buyer beware: if you plan on using Nikon Software, understand that major OS upgrades are not supported for 4 to 5 months on average.
don't get me wrong, nikon builds great cameras and lenses and stuff but their software dept. leaves much to be desired. nikon charges a lot of money for a product that they aren't adequately supportting. as far as I know canon provides their software for free and I haven't heard of any issues with their software.
I don't know that Canon has a RAW editor with the power of NX2. NX2 has die-hard fans because a) the RAW conversions are great, b) the in-camera settings are reflected in the RAW conversion, c) the editing tools are very, very powerful with the always non-destructive edit steps (layers) and selective editing and d) the Nik Color Efex Pro plug-ins extend it into "I hardly need CS4 anymore" territory.

I'd say that Nikon is in a catch-22. The sales of NX2 don't justify investing in it more heavily, but without more investment, they won't improve the product to the point that sales increase significantly. Plus they have the Lightroom's of the world out there which are very powerful and fast and will convert RAW from any camera.

For me, at this point 2.2.3 is working on SL though it freezes once in a while and I'm waiting for the update to check it out. What will be more interesting is the next big NX release (3.x) and what that has.... but who knows when that will come out.
Ian
No, Nikon announced a delay for NX2 updates until end of January... so one more month.

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yeah ok, I just checked nikon's site and you are correct, as of 16/12/09 they have revised their original announcement and now the update won't be available until the end of january 2010 not end of today. so whats the hold-up? why are they taking so long to update their software? this has been a real let down for users of nx2. SL has been out since late august and nikon have not offered any support for SL users except to tell us that they don't recommend that we upgrade to SL at this time. by now apple and most other 3rd party manufacturers have updated their drivers and software so that it works with SL. except for nikon. so that's it. that's my rant. I guess we wait 1 more month and hope that they deliver on their (revised) promise.
don't get me wrong, nikon builds great cameras and lenses and stuff but their software dept. leaves much to be desired. nikon charges a lot of money for a product that they aren't adequately supportting. as far as I know canon provides their software for free and I haven't heard of any issues with their software.

Ian
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there is some history here that has to be understood to fully appreciate my gripe.

way back when.... sept 2004, adobe developed the digital negative standard, "the dng file." this was an open source file format that all the camera manufacturers could adopt so that 3rd party software companies (such as adobe) could write software to edit raw files from all manufacturers. and so it came to be that all the major manufacturers could concentrate their r&d efforts on their hardware and let the software companies write the applications to edit the raw data. except nikon! when early in 2005 nikon said NO. and they took the unusual step of encrypting their nef code and claimed proprietary rights to it.

what this meant was that nikon users could only edit their raw files with nikon software. this move created much dissension amongst the nikon camp. long time nikon users were openly talking about switching to canon over this issue. also, lets not forget that canon was starting to implement full frame sensors which was another compelling reason to jump ship. as I see it that was the beginning of an exodus of nikon users to the canon camp.

several months passed before nikon realized that they were being bitten by their own snake. they partially backed off and announced that software companies could be "licensed" to have access to their "SDK" (software development kit). this kit provided LIMITED access to the nef code so that 3rd party software companies could properly edit things like white balance.

this is the reason that nikon capture, capture nx/nx2 do the best job of editing nef files. its not because nikon writes great software. its because they are the only ones with full access to the nef code. all other manufacturers have released their code and let the 3rd party software developers do what they do best. ie, write software.
this has been a real let down for users of nx2. SL has been out since late august and nikon have not offered any support for SL users except to tell us that they don't recommend that we upgrade to SL at this time. by now apple and most other 3rd party manufacturers have updated their drivers and software so that it works with SL. except for nikon. so that's it. that's my rant. I guess we wait 1 more month and hope that they deliver on their (revised) promise.
... I agree. I think the original delay of 4 months is too long. But at this point it's buyer beware: if you plan on using Nikon Software, understand that major OS upgrades are not supported for 4 to 5 months on average.
don't get me wrong, nikon builds great cameras and lenses and stuff but their software dept. leaves much to be desired. nikon charges a lot of money for a product that they aren't adequately supporting. as far as I know canon provides their software for free and I haven't heard of any issues with their software.
I don't know that Canon has a RAW editor with the power of NX2.
canon provides their "dpp" software, (free of charge to anybody) that will do some very basic adjustments to their raw files. its not much and obviously if you are serious about your photography you will bite the bullet and buy a 3rd party software application. because canon has opened their code the only limit to how good the software will be is the ability of the software company to develop software. not so with nikon, as they only give limited access to nef code and a 3rd party app will only ever be second best to capture nx2
NX2 has die-hard fans because a) the RAW conversions are great, b) the in-camera settings are reflected in the RAW conversion, c) the editing tools are very, very powerful with the always non-destructive edit steps (layers) and selective editing and d) the Nik Color Efex Pro plug-ins extend it into "I hardly need CS4 anymore" territory.
capture nx2 is a powerful application and I have used it faithfully for years. but right now it is not fully functional with SL. until they fix it nikon photographers are somewhat crippled. to date I have avoided purchasing adobe's photoshop (expensive right?) but I now find myself taking a serious look at opening my wallet and purchasing it.

I hope you've enjoyed my rant, sorry for the long post.
Ian
I'd say that Nikon is in a catch-22. The sales of NX2 don't justify investing in it more heavily, but without more investment, they won't improve the product to the point that sales increase significantly. Plus they have the Lightroom's of the world out there which are very powerful and fast and will convert RAW from any camera.
to me thats not much of an excuse. by exercising their proprietary rights to the nef code I think they have an obligation to fix their software in a timely manner, otherwise they should release their code so that other legitimate software companies can provide excellent support for nikon as they do for canon, pentax, sony, etc.
For me, at this point 2.2.3 is working on SL though it freezes once in a while and I'm waiting for the update to check it out. What will be more interesting is the next big NX release (3.x) and what that has.... but who knows when that will come out.
 
there is some history here that has to be understood to fully appreciate my gripe.

way back when.... sept 2004, adobe developed the digital negative standard, "the dng file." this was an open source file format that all the camera manufacturers could adopt so that 3rd party software companies (such as adobe) could write software to edit raw files from all manufacturers. and so it came to be that all the major manufacturers could concentrate their r&d efforts on their hardware and let the software companies write the applications to edit the raw data. except nikon! when early in 2005 nikon said NO. and they took the unusual step of encrypting their nef code and claimed proprietary rights to it.
I know of only a couple camera companies that output DNG, Leica being one of them (correct me if I'm wrong). But I don't believe Canon does. If you look around now, there are some very, very good raw processors for Nikon files: Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop, Aperture, Bibble, Capture One Pro, RPP, Silkypix etc... there are plenty and some of them rival NX2 for NEF conversions. The only thing I heard that Nikon encrypted initially was White Balance, but that seems to have been solved by other vendors anyway.

DNG is great in theory, I guess, but it just hasn't panned out. And major manufacturers aren't "hardware" only by any means, Nikon writes great software that runs the camera internally (converts the raw sensor data, generates JPGs if you want them, removes noise in camera, autofocuses the camera, calculates WB, all at 5 to 10 frames per second). Heck, I'd go so far to say, given the success of the D3, D700, D3s and D3x among other Nikon cameras, that Nikon is one of the best manufacturers in terms of software. But back to DNG, a lot of what DNG is trying to do NEF already does (e.g. let you keep edits stored within the file).
what this meant was that nikon users could only edit their raw files with nikon software. this move created much dissension amongst the nikon camp. long time nikon users were openly talking about switching to canon over this issue. also, lets not forget that canon was starting to implement full frame sensors which was another compelling reason to jump ship. as I see it that was the beginning of an exodus of nikon users to the canon camp.

several months passed before nikon realized that they were being bitten by their own snake. they partially backed off and announced that software companies could be "licensed" to have access to their "SDK" (software development kit). this kit provided LIMITED access to the nef code so that 3rd party software companies could properly edit things like white balance.
Honestly, this is ancient history now. You're talking D1 and D70 timeframe, when JPG output was the norm and RAW converters were just becoming "the thing". It's D3s, D3x and D700 time now.
this is the reason that nikon capture, capture nx/nx2 do the best job of editing nef files. its not because nikon writes great software. its because they are the only ones with full access to the nef code. all other manufacturers have released their code and let the 3rd party software developers do what they do best. ie, write software.
I'm not sure that's true by any means, but in the end, Adobe and Phase One (Capture One Pro software), Bibble, and the rest are doing an excellent job with NEF conversions.
capture nx2 is a powerful application and I have used it faithfully for years. but right now it is not fully functional with SL. until they fix it nikon photographers are somewhat crippled. to date I have avoided purchasing adobe's photoshop (expensive right?) but I now find myself taking a serious look at opening my wallet and purchasing it.
Nikon photographers are only partially crippled if they upgraded to SL, if they had patience, and waited it out, the are fine with 10.5.8 and Nx2. I use NX2 with SL and it's working pretty well, but I knew the risk and didn't upgrade to SL until I'd read a lot of posts in this forum of users who got it to work. Yeah, Nikon is too slow to upgrade, it's true, it bugs me a lot. I've also spent time with the Bibble 5 and the Capture One Pro trials, and they are quite nice, but Nx2 keeps being my "go to" software for some reason.
I hope you've enjoyed my rant, sorry for the long post.
Ian
Nice rant.
I'd say that Nikon is in a catch-22. The sales of NX2 don't justify investing in it more heavily, but without more investment, they won't improve the product to the point that sales increase significantly. Plus they have the Lightroom's of the world out there which are very powerful and fast and will convert RAW from any camera.
to me thats not much of an excuse. by exercising their proprietary rights to the nef code I think they have an obligation to fix their software in a timely manner, otherwise they should release their code so that other legitimate software companies can provide excellent support for nikon as they do for canon, pentax, sony, etc.
I was talking about investing in improving NX2, not just upgrading to run on new OSes. But again, other "legitimate software companies" already do provide excellent support for Nikon/NEF (I listed a few above). Most of them have free trials.

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... and so it came to be that all the major manufacturers could concentrate their r&d efforts on their hardware and let the software companies write the applications to edit the raw data. except nikon! when early in 2005 nikon said NO. and they took the unusual step of encrypting their nef code and claimed proprietary rights to it.
I know of only a couple camera companies that output DNG, Leica being one of them (correct me if I'm wrong). But I don't believe Canon does. If you look around now, there are some very, very good raw processors for Nikon files: Adobe Lightroom and Photoshop, Aperture, Bibble, Capture One Pro, RPP, Silkypix etc... there are plenty and some of them rival NX2 for NEF conversions. The only thing I heard that Nikon encrypted initially was White Balance, but that seems to have been solved by other vendors anyway.
ok I have to admit that I'm getting in a little over my head here. much of what I am saying in this thread is based on what I recall from discussions in this forum at the time. discussions that I've had with knowledgeable people in my circle of friends and colleagues. plus a few google searches to clear up things I was not sure of. suffice to say at the time nikon was the only one to exercise their proprietary rights and withhold access to the code to their raw files. all (or at the very least most) other camera manufacturers cooperated with software writers by giving them access to the code. this allowed software developers to write applications with optimal support for any given camera. at the time this was a big deal and there was much discussion about it.

yes you are quite right, by now there are many, many good solid 3rd party software apps that do a great job of converting nef files. I don't know how they do it. btw. white balance was the one big thing that nikon included in their SDK. they kind of had to because bibble ended up cracking the code.
DNG is great in theory, I guess, but it just hasn't panned out. And major manufacturers aren't "hardware" only by any means, Nikon writes great software that runs the camera internally (converts the raw sensor data, generates JPGs if you want them, removes noise in camera, autofocuses the camera, calculates WB, all at 5 to 10 frames per second). Heck, I'd go so far to say, given the success of the D3, D700, D3s and D3x among other Nikon cameras, that Nikon is one of the best manufacturers in terms of software. But back to DNG, a lot of what DNG is trying to do NEF already does (e.g. let you keep edits stored within the file).
yup, thats a very good point. nikon has to write the firmware to run their cameras, and right now their cameras are at the top of the heap. lets hope they stay there.
several months passed before nikon realized that they were being bitten by their own snake. they partially backed off and announced that software companies could be "licensed" to have access to their "SDK" (software development kit). this kit provided LIMITED access to the nef code so that 3rd party software companies could properly edit things like white balance.
Honestly, this is ancient history now. You're talking D1 and D70 timeframe, when JPG output was the norm and RAW converters were just becoming "the thing". It's D3s, D3x and D700 time now.
it might be old news but its still relevant. until nikon releases their code, software developers will have to write apps with one hand tied behind their backs. btw. the d2x was current at the time as was the 1dsmkII. I checked the time line.
Nikon photographers are only partially crippled if they upgraded to SL, if they had patience, and waited it out, the are fine with 10.5.8 and Nx2. I use NX2 with SL and it's working pretty well, but I knew the risk and didn't upgrade to SL until I'd read a lot of posts in this forum of users who got it to work. Yeah, Nikon is too slow to upgrade, it's true, it bugs me a lot. I've also spent time with the Bibble 5 and the Capture One Pro trials, and they are quite nice, but Nx2 keeps being my "go to" software for some reason.
I have a mbp that I foolishly upgraded to SL the day it was released. at the same time I upgraded my office with a brand new mac pro. the mac pro came pre-installed with SL. I do all my editing on the mac daddy in the office and since nx2 crashes so much on it I felt I simply had no choide but to install windows xp with boot camp and do my editing with xp. life sucks. lol
to me thats not much of an excuse. by exercising their proprietary rights to the nef code I think they have an obligation to fix their software in a timely manner, otherwise they should release their code so that other legitimate software companies can provide excellent support for nikon as they do for canon, pentax, sony, etc.
I was talking about investing in improving NX2, not just upgrading to run on new OSes. But again, other "legitimate software companies" already do provide excellent support for Nikon/NEF (I listed a few above). Most of them have free trials.

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you know what, I'm just frustrated with nikon right now. I've paid for nikon capture 3 times now. (original purchase and upgrades to nx then nx2) I will continue to use nx2 at least until they release a fix hopefully by the end of the month. if it works well after that then I will happily continue use it. otherwise I think I will look at purchasing lightroom and photoshop.

its now past my bedtime, so g'nite all.
Ian

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Enjoy.
 
I started this post because of my frustration with nx2 crashing when running under SL. 10.6.2. my computer is a 2009 model mac pro quad core 2.66 ghz, with 8 gb of ram.

to clarify what I am experiencing I am able to open images and do basic edits to wb, levels & curves, exposure, contrast etc. without any problem other than the beachball and occasional crash. the real problem occurs when I "un-leash the power of nx2" ;) and attempt to do some selective edits. the following is a quote from my previous post that explains what I'm experiencing.
"one thing I find particularly annoying is this. when I do PP on portraits, as one of my final steps I like to brighten the teeth and whites of eyes. I use the paint brush tool to add a selective adjustment to do this step. I will get most of the teeth painted and POOF nx2 crashes. EVERY SINGLE TIME!! does this happen to anyone else?"
many people have posted that they are not experiencing any problems with nx2 running under SL. which makes me wonder if I may have a different problem and am incorrectly blaming nx2 for crashing.

so if you're feeling adventurous and don't mind forcing nx2 to crash. (save your work) and you are someone who is not having crashes with nx2 running under SL. please try what I have done with the paint brush and let me know if it results in a crash. If it does how many brush strokes did it take before crashing?

to date I have only experienced nx2 crashing and have not had a system crash as a result. but be aware that you may be risking that. IMHO if you are running nx2 you are already taking that risk. but this could prove me wrong and indicate that I may have a different problem.

Ian
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Ian,

My experience is the same as yours. NX2 works "OK" unless I start doing selective edting with the brush. If I start using the brush to refine a LCH edit step then this almost always (but not always) results in NX2 crashing. Like you, this happens frequently when whitening teeth.

I patiently await the updated version of NX2.

cstephens
 

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